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 on: April 25, 2024, 11:51:33 PM 
Started by Red Shoes (Caz+Mark) - Last post by Andy

 I was unaware at that time that the LP title referred - apparently/allegedly - to a particular, er, "flavour" of oral sex!   Shocked


Perhaps not quite that. The album's title supposedly comes from Cambridge slang for sex, commonly used by Pink Floyd friend and occasional roadie, Iain "Emo" Moore, who would say, "I'm going back to the house for some ummagumma". According to Moore, he made up the term himself. - Wikipedia

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 on: April 25, 2024, 11:21:15 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Andy

Maybe they should announce who the special guest is going to be.

That seems very pertinent.

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 on: April 25, 2024, 09:16:20 PM 
Started by Red Shoes (Caz+Mark) - Last post by PaulT
That is sad; In Search of the Lost Chord was the 2nd LP I bought with my own money, and I loved the Mellotron sound on that album... still do!

The 1st LP I bought for myself was The Who Sell Out; until then, it was singles and the odd EP, while LPs (mainly Beatles) were birthday or Christmas gifts from my aunt.  Incidentally, she and I later had a running joke whereby she'd ask me which LP I'd like, and I'd choose one with the most outrageous title so she (a single lady then in her 40s) would have to go into a record shop and ask for it.  This reached its peak when I requested Pink Floyd's "Ummagumma"..... of course, I was unaware at that time that the LP title referred - apparently/allegedly - to a particular, er, "flavour" of oral sex!   Shocked

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 on: April 25, 2024, 09:07:16 PM 
Started by davidmjs - Last post by PaulT
Mel doesn't mention live shows, just recordings - he avers that there will be 2 separate releases - the revised/expanded ASoC and the new (KC) material.

RF seems to be enjoying treading the boards with Toyah again this year, but another KC touring/live iteration?  As TLev, P@ and Mel will be busy with Stick Men, Tu-Ner and Dire Straits Legacy gigs respectively this year and next, I agree - I think not.

I guess Robert and Toyah are involved with the remastered/remixed Sunday All Over The World album due this year, and he with any remaining live releases from the 2014-21 era.


 65 
 on: April 25, 2024, 08:58:24 PM 
Started by davidmjs - Last post by davidmjs

I've just been reading an interview with Mel Collins, who is working with Jakko Jacszyk on a re-release of A Scarcity of Miracles with outtakes etc, AND new material involving those two, Tony Levin, Gavin Harrison, (possibly) Pat Mastelotto and Robert Fripp. Mel refers to this being King Crimson material and says KC is "not dead yet". Interesting...


Hmmm.  Well, ASoM is the only new material (most of) the last lineup put out (13 years ago!) so it's KC in all but name.  I can't see Fripp stepping back into the beast fully though...can you?

 66 
 on: April 25, 2024, 08:33:40 PM 
Started by davidmjs - Last post by PaulT
I've just been reading an interview with Mel Collins, who is working with Jakko Jacszyk on a re-release of A Scarcity of Miracles with outtakes etc, AND new material involving those two, Tony Levin, Gavin Harrison, (possibly) Pat Mastelotto and Robert Fripp. Mel refers to this being King Crimson material and says KC is "not dead yet". Interesting...

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 on: April 25, 2024, 06:23:07 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by bassline (Mike)

The nearest parallel to Cropredy that I can think of is Beautiful Days (no corporate sponsorship, the leveller’s festival, etc). From my recent attendances, I’d guess that their average audience age is c10 years or so younger than Cropredy. I think their numbers are capped at 10,000. In my opinion, their line-up is streets ahead of Cropredy this year, with something for everyone (as a side-note, we were amongst the oldest at a sold-out and heaving Longest Johns gig of c600; brilliant band!). Im pretty sure that their ticket sales are v healthy from what I’ve heard. I think my point is that once your unique selling point (for Cropredy it is/was the band, the fantastic location and a great chance to catch up with old friends) is no longer the main draw, lineup is everything.


That's true, but BD is a multistage event on a bigger site, so they are able to cover a wider range of music, more choice and attract a wider demographic.
The Levellers came to prominence a good 20-30 years after Fairport, and actually had enough top 40 hits to make a bona fide Greatest Hits album.
Most of the acts tend to be 80's, 90's and 00's, give or take the odd Hawkwind or Van Der Graf, so they have that advantage too.
The year Cropredy had Supergrass on did not go too well on the feral yoof front.

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 on: April 25, 2024, 05:27:52 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Adam
The nearest parallel to Cropredy that I can think of is Beautiful Days (no corporate sponsorship, the leveller’s festival, etc). From my recent attendances, I’d guess that their average audience age is c10 years or so younger than Cropredy. I think their numbers are capped at 10,000. In my opinion, their line-up is streets ahead of Cropredy this year, with something for everyone (as a side-note, we were amongst the oldest at a sold-out and heaving Longest Johns gig of c600; brilliant band!). Im pretty sure that their ticket sales are v healthy from what I’ve heard. I think my point is that once your unique selling point (for Cropredy it is/was the band, the fantastic location and a great chance to catch up with old friends) is no longer the main draw, lineup is everything.

 69 
 on: April 25, 2024, 04:51:28 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by David W
Maybe they should announce who the special guest is going to be.

 70 
 on: April 25, 2024, 04:01:07 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Wandering Steve




My sad opinion is that unless the organisers get in fresh blood to book the acts to appeal to a broader age range but keeping the present values and musical variety (no problem with that , in fact it’s a big plus for me) then the festival will finish.


That seems like an impossible circle to square - it's as though you're saying they need to change the festival completely in order to appeal to the original audience.  Fresh blood booking the acts will, by default, automatically exclude the (well,the dwindling remains of) the original audience... Won't it?


I don't think its impossible. What makes Cropredy unique (or at least unusual) is the fact that the original audience now bring their children and grandchildren. Its also a safe and friendly environment. So market and cater for this with acts from as many decades as possible, perhaps with a weighting towards folk music. There is also only one stage, so emphasise families enjoying music together. Fresh blood booking acts doesn't have to exclude the original audience, just widen the net a bit.

Is that hopelessly naive?


It excludes the original audience because the original audience was Fairport's and Fairport have become simply an addendum to the festival (gradually, over the last 20 years).

I think many of fairport original fans are now dead.
You can’t get away from that fact.
That indeed excludes them.
The original fans that still attend are obviously a minority and plenty that are still alive can no longer attend due to health mobility issues.
That’d be the same for every sixties band, it’s just the passing of time.
You cannot base a festival around bands that appeal to a minority and fail to cast an eye to the future.

I hadn’t a clue who fairport were when I attended my first cropredy in 2008 but they grew on me and I enjoy them immensely now.
Therein is the point.
You have to keep the festival relevant
No open heart surgery
Just some tinkering.
All it needs is one family orientated headliner that appeals to middle aged families and if that’s seen as a deal breaker by pensioners who don’t want that then I’m afraid the festival is dead….(by the way they don’t mind because after watching Alice cooper , madness etc they still attend)
This year does not have a headliner that will attract the middle aged and the tickets are unsold , look on Facebook etc , many have said exactly the same and are in fact attending other festivals instead , so it is indeed a line up that is unappealing to them.
THEM being the future of the festival.
You book madness or someone similar as next Thursdays headliner and they’ll be back.
That’s just fine tinkering, the rest stays the same.
Let’s hope it survives.

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