Ian W.
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« Reply #100 on: July 21, 2011, 09:52:35 PM » |
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As I've said before, my simple solution is to prefix the band name with the word "New". It implies a succession, even similar musical style, but does not imply that any band members were in the Albion Band we saw last year.
Like the New Seekers!  Or New Labour  Do you mean Ashley was Old Labour and New Labour was the one with Blair ? Or am I getting him mixed up with Bliar ?  |
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« Reply #101 on: July 22, 2011, 06:09:43 PM » |
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I don't really understand the hostility to this idea. Lots of Swing Bands from the 1940s are still going with no original members---but they do maintain the traditions and repertoire of the original. Personally, I am delighted that this is happening.
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JohnS
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« Reply #102 on: July 22, 2011, 06:25:09 PM » |
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Go for it I say. Its Ashleys band so he choses the line and has chosen this one. So its Ashleys band. Anyway, the more [hopefully] big name folk rock bands the better! An interesting aside: Steeleye in '77/78: M Carthy M Prior (original member) T Hart (original member) R Kemp (part of 'classic' Hat/Six/Rogues etc line up) N Pegrum (in 'classic' line up) Kirkpatrick Steeleye in '97-'00 G Woods (original member) P Knight (played in 1st live SS performance so basically original member) B Johnson (part of 'classic' line up) T Harries (13 years in band) D Mattacks (guest) who should you call Steeleye?  oh, and a final 'made up' line up: A Hutchins (founder), Bass T Woods (original member), Multi Inst. K Nicol (9 years in band), Lead G L Genochy (on stool, off and on since '89) Tamsyn Alexander, vocals (one off SS concert in 2001). 3 complete bands in one! |
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davidmjs
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« Reply #103 on: July 23, 2011, 12:58:01 PM » |
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I don't think there is the slightest problem with no original members etc...the issue here is one of continuity (or lack of it). This is an entirely new band, with no connection to the previous Albion band except the fact that the lead bloke's Dad used to run that. It's about as silly as Julian Lennon starting a new version of the Beatles...
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Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
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Jules Gray
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« Reply #104 on: July 23, 2011, 01:55:03 PM » |
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It's about as silly as Julian Lennon starting a new version of the Beatles...
Well maybe not that silly, but I still agree with your basic point. Jules |
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richardkendell
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« Reply #105 on: July 23, 2011, 03:33:30 PM » |
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I don't think there is the slightest problem with no original members etc...the issue here is one of continuity (or lack of it). This is an entirely new band, with no connection to the previous Albion band except the fact that the lead bloke's Dad used to run that. It's about as silly as Julian Lennon starting a new version of the Beatles...
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Or Calum Best claiming to be Manchester United and charging accordingly.
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David W
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« Reply #106 on: July 23, 2011, 04:24:51 PM » |
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I really think many people are missing the point that Ashley is behind the new project and therefore there is a continuity albeit behind the scenes rather than on stage.
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richardkendell
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« Reply #107 on: July 23, 2011, 04:44:23 PM » |
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But I don't think people pay to hear someone behind the scenes. It is starting to get like "The Four Tops" who appear to be operating some sort of franchise with a choice of lineups. If you have new group of musicians let them stand (or fall) on their own merits not cover themselves in the mantle of some past group.
Grump over I shall now go and see if I can find my tent pegs.
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davidmjs
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« Reply #108 on: July 23, 2011, 07:21:38 PM » |
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But I don't think people pay to hear someone behind the scenes.
Well this one won't anyway...! I imagine they'll be on the stage at Cropredy 2012 anyhow, so I'm sure we'll find out what they're like then... |
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Ollie
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« Reply #109 on: August 06, 2011, 06:14:19 PM » |
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I'm lucky enough to have a copy of the new EP, as a friend was doing sound at the press conference at Sidmouth. The track listing as follows:
Thieves' Song (Gavin Davenport)
Ragged Heroes (John Tams)
Newfoundland Sailor (Trad. arr. Albion Band)
No Sir No! (Trad. arr. Albion Band)
A Taoist Tale (Tucker Zimmerman)
Certainly an Albion Band for the 21st Century, and rocks like a very rocky thing, with lots of modern production techniques. I'll admit on first hearing, I'm not overly fond of their treatment of A Taoist Tale (as I have both Nic Jones' and Wood Wilson Carthy's versions engrained in my head), but I'm generally very impressed and really quite excited about it all. Who care's what they're called, it's damned good music!
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Dan O.
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« Reply #110 on: August 06, 2011, 06:24:12 PM » |
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That's really good news, looking forward to hearing them !
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Shelley
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« Reply #111 on: August 06, 2011, 10:34:55 PM » |
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I've got a copy of the EP too so shall be listening with interest. The band certainly contains a lot of talent!
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16 Apr - Todmorden Folk Festival; 18 May - Midway Folk Club, Stockport; 30 Apr - Tideswell Food Festival; 5 June - Manchester Histories Festival; 3 July - West Wycombe Park
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Shelley
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« Reply #112 on: August 07, 2011, 05:05:39 PM » |
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What I hadn't realised was that the band will actually be called "The Albion Band" - I was presuming the word "New" was being inserted. Anyway, about to listen to the CD.
First impression - very like classic Steeleye with more welly! (this is good!)
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16 Apr - Todmorden Folk Festival; 18 May - Midway Folk Club, Stockport; 30 Apr - Tideswell Food Festival; 5 June - Manchester Histories Festival; 3 July - West Wycombe Park
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PL (Peter)
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« Reply #113 on: August 08, 2011, 07:28:30 AM » |
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Certainly an Albion Band for the 21st Century, and rocks like a very rocky thing, with lots of modern production techniques. I'll admit on first hearing, I'm not overly fond of their treatment of A Taoist Tale (as I have both Nic Jones' and Wood Wilson Carthy's versions engrained in my head), but I'm generally very impressed and really quite excited about it all. Who care's what they're called, it's damned good music! Sounds good, Thanks, Ollie. Looking forward to hearing more. |
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« Reply #114 on: August 09, 2011, 10:12:40 AM » |
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I wonder if there will be any copies for sale around Cropredy...?
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Jim
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« Reply #115 on: August 09, 2011, 05:47:01 PM » |
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I wonder if there will be any copies for sale around Cropredy...?
i wouldnt bet against it being there |
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Ollie
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« Reply #116 on: August 09, 2011, 06:08:44 PM » |
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There may well be, now the press conference is out of the way.
If they are, I think they're about £5, and well worth every penny!
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"Tradition must be respected, convention can be broken; but only when you know which is which."
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davidmjs
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« Reply #117 on: August 10, 2011, 10:52:30 AM » |
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Can I slowly prepare the way for myself to eat my own words? Sounds interesting!  |
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Andy Tuck
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« Reply #118 on: August 14, 2011, 01:29:46 PM » |
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CD waiting for me on my return home today, will let you know what I think later.
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GubGub (Al)
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« Reply #119 on: August 14, 2011, 04:03:34 PM » |
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Sadly no CDs at Cropredy that I could see. A pity as I was hoping to pick one up.
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