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« Reply #60 on: November 17, 2012, 05:02:27 PM » |
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"Britain's greatest female vocalist" has many nominees. I'm afraid I don't always ascribe this term to Sandy Denny. Dusty Springfield and Maggie Bell are but two other contenders for this, IMHO.
I love Sandy's singing, and would rather listen to her than any other female vocalist. That said, my much-better half, a musicologist who is blessed/cursed with perfect pitch (and is also, I should point out, a real admirer of SD's), tells me that it's not uncommon for Sandy to go either flat or sharp (can't remember which). Indeed, if we have What We Did on Our Holidays on in the car, we have to skip "I'll Keep it with Mine" for just that reason; apparently it's too painful to listen to. I can't hear it myself, except that when my beloved sings the correct note at the same time, I do notice the difference. FWIW, Andy, when it comes to singers in the popular music arena, her vote goes to Dusty Springfield. |
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« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2012, 01:33:10 PM » |
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I love Sandy's singing, and would rather listen to her than any other female vocalist. That said, my much-better half, a musicologist who is blessed/cursed with perfect pitch (and is also, I should point out, a real admirer of SD's), tells me that it's not uncommon for Sandy to go either flat or sharp (can't remember which). Indeed, if we have What We Did on Our Holidays on in the car, we have to skip "I'll Keep it with Mine" for just that reason; apparently it's too painful to listen to. I can't hear it myself, except that when my beloved sings the correct note at the same time, I do notice the difference.
My other half can always hear Neil Young doing that. And friends of mine tell me they hear Sinead O'Connor doing the same. I'm also told I do it myself. Luckily for me, I just don't hear it, or at least not often. I think a voice with personality doesn't need to be on pitch 100% of the time. Feel is more important to me. Jules |
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« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2012, 01:35:52 PM » |
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I think a voice with personality doesn't need to be on pitch 100% of the time. Feel is more important to me.
Much more important. Always. I mean, I can enjoy Phil Lesh singing...really.  |
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« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2012, 02:16:38 PM » |
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"Britain's greatest female vocalist" has many nominees. I'm afraid I don't always ascribe this term to Sandy Denny. Dusty Springfield and Maggie Bell are but two other contenders for this, IMHO.
I love Sandy's singing, and would rather listen to her than any other female vocalist. That said, my much-better half, a musicologist who is blessed/cursed with perfect pitch (and is also, I should point out, a real admirer of SD's), tells me that it's not uncommon for Sandy to go either flat or sharp (can't remember which). Indeed, if we have What We Did on Our Holidays on in the car, we have to skip "I'll Keep it with Mine" for just that reason; apparently it's too painful to listen to. I can't hear it myself, except that when my beloved sings the correct note at the same time, I do notice the difference. FWIW, Andy, when it comes to singers in the popular music arena, her vote goes to Dusty Springfield. I always assumed it was deliberate when she was not 'on the note'. Back in the stone age, when I did O level music, out reacher explained that Bachs genius was that he knew when to breat the rules - I think the same goes for great singers. |
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« Reply #64 on: November 18, 2012, 07:25:17 PM » |
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"Britain's greatest female vocalist" has many nominees. I'm afraid I don't always ascribe this term to Sandy Denny. Dusty Springfield and Maggie Bell are but two other contenders for this, IMHO.
I love Sandy's singing, and would rather listen to her than any other female vocalist. That said, my much-better half, a musicologist who is blessed/cursed with perfect pitch (and is also, I should point out, a real admirer of SD's), tells me that it's not uncommon for Sandy to go either flat or sharp (can't remember which). Indeed, if we have What We Did on Our Holidays on in the car, we have to skip "I'll Keep it with Mine" for just that reason; apparently it's too painful to listen to. I can't hear it myself, except that when my beloved sings the correct note at the same time, I do notice the difference. FWIW, Andy, when it comes to singers in the popular music arena, her vote goes to Dusty Springfield. I always assumed it was deliberate when she was not 'on the note'. Back in the stone age, when I did O level music, out reacher explained that Bachs genius was that he knew when to breat the rules - I think the same goes for great singers. Ahh I do therefore I am (its a mistake when I hit hte right note!!!)  |
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« Reply #65 on: November 18, 2012, 09:00:42 PM » |
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Every singer hits a bum note from time to time.
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« Reply #66 on: November 18, 2012, 09:02:40 PM » |
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Every singer hits a bum note from time to time.
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Peter H-K
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« Reply #67 on: November 18, 2012, 09:53:55 PM » |
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I mean, I can enjoy Phil Lesh singing...really. Me too. Except on some of those 90s tapes of Box of Rain live. Ouch! |
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« Reply #68 on: November 18, 2012, 09:57:29 PM » |
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I mean, I can enjoy Phil Lesh singing...really. Me too. Except on some of those 90s tapes of Box of Rain live. Ouch! I was talking about him now. Believe me, he was better in the 90's |
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« Reply #69 on: November 18, 2012, 11:02:04 PM » |
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Every singer hits a bum note from time to time.
'good enough for jazz' to quote Saint Richard of Thompson. |
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« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2012, 12:00:48 AM » |
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Every singer hits a bum note from time to time.
Not with Autotune! If it's good enough for ***** then it's good enough for me. |
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« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2012, 06:39:50 PM » |
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tells me that it's not uncommon for Sandy to go either flat or sharp (can't remember which). Indeed, if we have What We Did on Our Holidays on in the car, we have to skip "I'll Keep it with Mine" for just that reason; apparently it's too painful to listen to.
Well I'd have to ask my wife to leave the car for the duration of that track, simply because it's my favourite Fairport track ever recorded. It's been that way since I bought the album all those years ago. It's the classic line up and classic song too. Incidentally, it does happen to be my wife's favourite track also. |
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« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2012, 08:50:33 PM » |
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tells me that it's not uncommon for Sandy to go either flat or sharp (can't remember which). Indeed, if we have What We Did on Our Holidays on in the car, we have to skip "I'll Keep it with Mine" for just that reason; apparently it's too painful to listen to.
Well I'd have to ask my wife to leave the car for the duration of that track, simply because it's my favourite Fairport track ever recorded. It's been that way since I bought the album all those years ago. It's the classic line up and classic song too. Incidentally, it does happen to be my wife's favourite track also. I'd be in trouble if she left the car: she's the driver! |
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« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2012, 08:56:19 AM » |
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Every singer hits a bum note from time to time.
Quite. Listening to Nic Jones: Unearthed, yesterday I was struck by how often he's off the note, in spite of being a wonderful, clear singer. The timing and delivery overcomes a lot. |
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« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2012, 05:51:40 PM » |
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"Perfection is always boring." - J. Garcia |
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« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2012, 06:00:34 PM » |
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"Perfection is always boring." - J. Garcia  |
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« Reply #76 on: December 13, 2012, 03:58:02 PM » |
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Box set now deleted apparently - and Muse Music didnt manage to get any copies.
There do seem to still be some around, but if you want it, buy it up now.
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« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2012, 04:03:13 PM » |
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Box set now deleted apparently - and Muse Music didnt manage to get any copies.
There do seem to still be some around, but if you want it, buy it up now.
What's with all this 'instant deletion' bollix?!  Jules |
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« Reply #78 on: December 13, 2012, 09:10:56 PM » |
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Box set now deleted apparently - and Muse Music didnt manage to get any copies.
There do seem to still be some around, but if you want it, buy it up now.
What's with all this 'instant deletion' bollix?! Jules I'm with you Jules. It's absolute bollix. Perhaps the guy that put the albums together can enlighten us. I don't believe SD would have been impressed with these strange methods. |
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« Reply #79 on: December 14, 2012, 09:06:57 AM » |
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That's ridick-a-lick-alickalous!
Still available on Amazon, I see, so get out there and buy it if you haven't already! But I thought the idea of this one was that it wouldn't be a limited edition like the big box? Still, I'm glad that i did decide to splash out on it already, so I don't feel pressured about getting it now.
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