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« Reply #40 on: June 29, 2024, 10:18:21 AM »




Something changed around the time of North Star Grassman and things got progressively worse. I love Blackwaterside, but it feels like she's reaching for notes without getting them. Her producers included RT, Trevor and Glyn Johns, and I just don't think they got her very best. I've read accounts of the Trevor-produced recordings, in which she was singing live in studio surrounded by other musicians, meaning you're stuck with what you get. Why not put her in a vocal booth and have her sing over the backing tracks? Why not edit together the best performances?


Brilliant.  I literally believe almost the exact opposite of everything you say...horses for courses and all that!


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Starting with North Star Grassman, things got progressively better. I can do without Blackwaterside, but she really nails the high notes. Her producers included RT, Trevor and Glyn Johns, and I just think they got her very best. I've read accounts of the Trevor-produced recordings, in which she was singing live in studio surrounded by other musicians. The results were consistently astounding. For heavens sake, don't isolate her in a vocal booth and have her sing over the backing tracks. You'd have to edit together the best performances.

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Ha ha Grin  Fwiw, I certainly think Grassman is her finest solo album... I also think of most of her pre-Fairport work as juvenilia...of interest, decent, but of nothing like the quality she produced from the off with Fairport.
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« Reply #41 on: July 14, 2024, 09:24:18 PM »

Didn't Ashley sing lead on  Million Dollar Bash on Unhalfbricking with the cod American accent?
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« Reply #42 on: July 14, 2024, 09:34:24 PM »


Didn't Ashley sing lead on  Million Dollar Bash on Unhalfbricking with the cod American accent?
No, that was a guest vocal by Marc Ellington
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« Reply #43 on: July 14, 2024, 11:08:00 PM »



Didn't Ashley sing lead on  Million Dollar Bash on Unhalfbricking with the cod American accent?
No, that was a guest vocal by Marc Ellington


Ah, i knew Marc sang on it, but I thought Ashley did too. All these years I've been living a lie!
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« Reply #44 on: July 15, 2024, 02:12:04 AM »




Didn't Ashley sing lead on  Million Dollar Bash on Unhalfbricking with the cod American accent?
No, that was a guest vocal by Marc Ellington


Ah, i knew Marc sang on it, but I thought Ashley did too. All these years I've been living a lie!


He did sing it on the 25th and 30th anniversary live albums.
Marc sang it on the 35th anniversary one.
I believe so, at least, I'm going on memory.
One or more may have different lyrics.
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« Reply #45 on: July 15, 2024, 09:04:25 AM »





Something changed around the time of North Star Grassman and things got progressively worse. I love Blackwaterside, but it feels like she's reaching for notes without getting them. Her producers included RT, Trevor and Glyn Johns, and I just don't think they got her very best. I've read accounts of the Trevor-produced recordings, in which she was singing live in studio surrounded by other musicians, meaning you're stuck with what you get. Why not put her in a vocal booth and have her sing over the backing tracks? Why not edit together the best performances?


Brilliant.  I literally believe almost the exact opposite of everything you say...horses for courses and all that!


Fixed:

Starting with North Star Grassman, things got progressively better. I can do without Blackwaterside, but she really nails the high notes. Her producers included RT, Trevor and Glyn Johns, and I just think they got her very best. I've read accounts of the Trevor-produced recordings, in which she was singing live in studio surrounded by other musicians. The results were consistently astounding. For heavens sake, don't isolate her in a vocal booth and have her sing over the backing tracks. You'd have to edit together the best performances.

Wink


Ha ha Grin  Fwiw, I certainly think Grassman is her finest solo album... I also think of most of her pre-Fairport work as juvenilia...of interest, decent, but of nothing like the quality she produced from the off with Fairport.


I like all of Sandy's solo stuff.  North Star Grassman is a beautiful album but the production lets it down, I think.
I know it's not solo material, but I've grown to love her work with the Strawbs. She didn't exactly emerge fully formed as a singer, but so much of the Strawbs material  shows her as fully developed and confident.  

 
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« Reply #46 on: July 15, 2024, 04:33:16 PM »






Something changed around the time of North Star Grassman and things got progressively worse. I love Blackwaterside, but it feels like she's reaching for notes without getting them. Her producers included RT, Trevor and Glyn Johns, and I just don't think they got her very best. I've read accounts of the Trevor-produced recordings, in which she was singing live in studio surrounded by other musicians, meaning you're stuck with what you get. Why not put her in a vocal booth and have her sing over the backing tracks? Why not edit together the best performances?


Brilliant.  I literally believe almost the exact opposite of everything you say...horses for courses and all that!


Fixed:

Starting with North Star Grassman, things got progressively better. I can do without Blackwaterside, but she really nails the high notes. Her producers included RT, Trevor and Glyn Johns, and I just think they got her very best. I've read accounts of the Trevor-produced recordings, in which she was singing live in studio surrounded by other musicians. The results were consistently astounding. For heavens sake, don't isolate her in a vocal booth and have her sing over the backing tracks. You'd have to edit together the best performances.

Wink


Ha ha Grin  Fwiw, I certainly think Grassman is her finest solo album... I also think of most of her pre-Fairport work as juvenilia...of interest, decent, but of nothing like the quality she produced from the off with Fairport.


I like all of Sandy's solo stuff.  North Star Grassman is a beautiful album but the production lets it down, I think.
I know it's not solo material, but I've grown to love her work with the Strawbs. She didn't exactly emerge fully formed as a singer, but so much of the Strawbs material  shows her as fully developed and confident.  

 


I agree. My original comments were directed specifically toward the quality of her singing voice, not the quality of the songs. I think she wrote amazing songs all the way to the end (including I'm a Dreamer, At the End of the Day, Stranger to Himself, It Suits Me Well, The Music Weaver). I wish 20-year old Sandy had sung them.
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« Reply #47 on: July 15, 2024, 05:11:13 PM »




Didn't Ashley sing lead on  Million Dollar Bash on Unhalfbricking with the cod American accent?
No, that was a guest vocal by Marc Ellington


Ah, i knew Marc sang on it, but I thought Ashley did too. All these years I've been living a lie!


I thought it was verse 1 Marc, 2 Ashley, 3 Sandy, 4. Richard, 5. Simon
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« Reply #48 on: July 15, 2024, 10:02:29 PM »





Didn't Ashley sing lead on  Million Dollar Bash on Unhalfbricking with the cod American accent?
No, that was a guest vocal by Marc Ellington


Ah, i knew Marc sang on it, but I thought Ashley did too. All these years I've been living a lie!


I thought it was verse 1 Marc, 2 Ashley, 3 Sandy, 4. Richard, 5. Simon


At least I'm not the only one.....😂
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« Reply #49 on: July 15, 2024, 10:06:09 PM »





Didn't Ashley sing lead on  Million Dollar Bash on Unhalfbricking with the cod American accent?
No, that was a guest vocal by Marc Ellington


Ah, i knew Marc sang on it, but I thought Ashley did too. All these years I've been living a lie!


He did sing it on the 25th and 30th anniversary live albums.
Marc sang it on the 35th anniversary one.
I believe so, at least, I'm going on memory.

Definitely different lyrics on the 25th and 30th anniversary albums - Ashley rewrote them to comment on FC and Cropredy, usually mentioning Percy Sledge somewhere along the line!
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