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« Reply #120 on: November 23, 2013, 06:52:23 PM »


These seem to have disappeared from the Amazon listings now.


Indeed.  And nobody's sure if this means that they were bootlegs after all, or if they were pukka releases and have now been delayed.

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« Reply #121 on: November 23, 2013, 07:32:52 PM »



These seem to have disappeared from the Amazon listings now.


Indeed.  And nobody's sure if this means that they were bootlegs after all, or if they were pukka releases and have now been delayed.

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They don't normally delete listings if they are being delayed....there's a book I'm waiting for that's been delayed for over 3 years and is still listed there.  They're obviously boots.  Well, they are aren't they?  Amazon sells enough of them to know...!
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« Reply #122 on: November 23, 2013, 07:39:55 PM »

As I said earlier, the listed label would indicate that they are not boots. The Dylan box disappeared from Amazon for a while after its initial listing. I suspect they put them up before they had been authorised to do by the label so as there has not been an announcement by Apple/EMI/Universal/Commercial Marketing (whoever controls these things) who probably do not yet want to distract the public from the recently released BBC sets.
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« Reply #123 on: November 23, 2013, 09:16:22 PM »


As I said earlier, the listed label would indicate that they are not boots. The Dylan box disappeared from Amazon for a while after its initial listing. I suspect they put them up before they had been authorised to do by the label so as there has not been an announcement by Apple/EMI/Universal/Commercial Marketing (whoever controls these things) who probably do not yet want to distract the public from the recently released BBC sets.


Yeah, some listings do indeed disappear for a while.  I think Gub's theory may well hold water.

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« Reply #124 on: November 25, 2013, 10:49:15 PM »

May the Lord bless those fine people at Amazon. They so very kindly wrote an email to me (in fact, they actually write to me, sometimes two or three times each day now) to let me know that they can, if I like, sell me more Beatles products. Here is an extract from the list of things available.

The Beatles in Stereo Vinyl Box - £352.63
The Beatles In Mono - £187.58
The Beatles Box Set - Remastered in Stereo -  £134.99
The Beatles Box Vinyl - £276.19
The Beatles 2009 Digital Remaster USB Version - £181.75  


Can anyone guess what words I was tempted to use in the email I never dared write, to tell them that I may not be able to afford any of these? Admittedly they may compliment my original vinyls, some cassettes, early and later CDs, and the mono boxed set remastered.

I think I already have enough duplications...                      
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« Reply #125 on: December 07, 2013, 01:43:13 PM »

http://www.mojo4music.com/7824/the-beatles-rubbish-according-to-1968-bbc-audience-research/

So, they still arrive... I wonder how well, or not, this might have already been covered in the new Mark Lewisohn book.
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« Reply #126 on: December 07, 2013, 08:02:08 PM »


http://www.mojo4music.com/7824/the-beatles-rubbish-according-to-1968-bbc-audience-research/

So, they still arrive... I wonder how well, or not, this might have already been covered in the new Mark Lewisohn book.



That only goes up to early '63.
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« Reply #127 on: December 07, 2013, 11:23:08 PM »



http://www.mojo4music.com/7824/the-beatles-rubbish-according-to-1968-bbc-audience-research/

So, they still arrive... I wonder how well, or not, this might have already been covered in the new Mark Lewisohn book.



That only goes up to early '63.


I'm thinking ahead... lol
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« Reply #128 on: December 11, 2013, 10:05:45 AM »

In a similar move to the Bob Dylan limited edition "copyright extension" release, it looks like The Beatles are about to do likewise.

From the Steve Hoffman forum:-

The Beatles are set to "beat the boots" by releasing their own bootleg series as downloads on iTunes. The recordings will be made available on 17 December.  More than 2 hours' worth of music will appear under the title Bootleg Recordings 1963. Here's the track list from iTunes:

 1. There's A Place - Takes 5, 6 (2:19)
 2. There's A Place - Take 8 (1:58)
 3. There's A Place - Take 9 (2:04)
 4. Do You Want To Known A Secret - Track 2, Take 7 (2:17)
 5. A Taste Of Honey - Track 2, Take 6 (2:12)
 6. I Saw Her Standing There - Take 2 (3:07)
 7. Misery - Take 1 (1:54)
 8. Misery - Take 7 (1:56)
 9. From Me To You - Take 1 & 2 (3:24)
 10. From Me To You - Take 5 (2:17)
 11. Thank You Girl - Take 1 (2:09)
 12. Thank You Girl - Take 5 (2:04)
 13. One After 909 - Take 1 & 2 (4:29)
 14. Hold Me Tight - Take 21 (2:42)
 15. Money (That's What I Want) - RM 7 Undubbed (2:48)
 16. Some Other Guy - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (2:02)
 17. Love Me Do - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (2:31)
 18. Too Much Monkey Business - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (1:50)
 19. I Saw Her Standing There - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 16th March, 1963 (2:38)
 20. Do You Want To Know A Secret - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (1:50)
 21. From Me To You - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (1:54)
 22. I Got To Find My Baby - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 26th January, 1963 (1:59)
 23. Roll Over Beethoven - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 29th June, 1963 (2:29)
 24. A Taste Of Honey - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 23rd June, 1963 (2:01)
 25. Love Me Do - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 (2:29)
 26. Please Please Me - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 (2:08)
 27. She Loves You - Live At BBC For "Easy Beat" / 20th October, 1963 (2:29)
 28. I Want To Hold Your Hand - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 (2:19)
 29. Till There Was You - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 (2:16)
 30. Roll Over Beethoveen - Live At BBC For "Saturday Club" / 21st December, 1963 (2:16)
 31. You Really Got A Hold On Me - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 4th June, 1963 (2:54)
 32. The Hippy Hippy Shake - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 4th June, 1963 (1:43)
 33. Till There Was You - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" /11th June, 1963 (2:14)
 34. A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 (2:06)
 35. A Taste Of Honey - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 (1:56)
 36. Money (That's What I Want) - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 18th June, 1963 (2:41)
 37. Anna - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 25th June, 1963 (3:02)
 38. Love Me Do - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 (2:29)
 39. She Loves You - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 (2:16)
 40. I'll Get You - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 (2:05)
 41. A Taste Of Honey - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 (2:00)
 42. Boys - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 (2:12)
 43. Chains - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 (2:22)
 44. You Really Got A Hold On Me - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 17th September, 1963 (2:57)
 45. I Saw Her Standing There - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 (2:41)
 46. She Loves You - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 10th September, 1963 (2:15)
 47. Twist And Shout - Live At BBC For "Pop Go The Beatles" / 24th September, 1963 (2:36)
 48. Do You Want To Know A Secret - Live At BBC For "Here We Go" / 12th March, 1963 (1:55)
 49. Please Please Me - Live At BBC For "Here We Go" / 12th March, 1963 (1:57)
 50. Long Tall Sally - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 (1:49)
 51. Chains - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 (2:23)
 52. Boys - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 (1:53)
 53. A Taste Of Honey - Live At BBC For "Side By Side" / 13th May, 1963 (2:04)
 54. Roll Over Beethoven - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 (2:17)
 55. All My Loving - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 (2:06)
 56. She Loves You - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 (2:21)
 57. Till There Was You - Live At BBC For "From Us To You" / 26th December, 1963 (2:12)
 58. Bad To Me - Demo (1:29)
 59. I'm In Love - Demo (1:32)

These songs have all appeared on bootlegs around the world, but these versions are from the official archives and should sound better than previously bootegged copies.

What's the betting that this will be available for a day (or whatever the minimum amount of time is required to legally be considered as released) and then deleted?  Assuming its official, of course.

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« Reply #129 on: December 11, 2013, 12:17:22 PM »

This has reminded me of an edition of Saturday Club in the early sixties when the Beatles did a live session the same week as the Shadows during which they did a couple of songs together. I seem to remember one of the tracks was Matchbox but memory could be playing tricks after all these years.
I was wondering if these tracks were ever released.
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« Reply #130 on: December 11, 2013, 12:20:11 PM »


This has reminded me of an edition of Saturday Club in the early sixties when the Beatles did a live session the same week as the Shadows during which they did a couple of songs together. I seem to remember one of the tracks was Matchbox but memory could be playing tricks after all these years.
I was wondering if these tracks were ever released.


I've never heard tell of any joint performances, Peter, so perhaps it is indeed the memory.

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« Reply #131 on: December 11, 2013, 12:27:30 PM »



This has reminded me of an edition of Saturday Club in the early sixties when the Beatles did a live session the same week as the Shadows during which they did a couple of songs together. I seem to remember one of the tracks was Matchbox but memory could be playing tricks after all these years.
I was wondering if these tracks were ever released.


I've never heard tell of any joint performances, Peter, so perhaps it is indeed the memory.

Jules


They definitely happened as I recorded them at the time. I just cant remember what the tracks were. I wish I still had the old tape.
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« Reply #132 on: December 11, 2013, 10:35:15 PM »

Surely a Fabshads session would have turned up on the many boots which document the beatles
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« Reply #133 on: December 14, 2013, 12:03:49 AM »

Latest on the Beatles' US albums appears to be that they'll come out in a box set:-

http://theseconddisc.com/2013/12/12/british-invasion-the-beatles-unveil-the-u-s-albums-box-set-in-january/

Can't see anything about individual releases yet.

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« Reply #134 on: December 14, 2013, 12:07:31 AM »


Latest on the Beatles' US albums appears to be that they'll come out in a box set:-

http://theseconddisc.com/2013/12/12/british-invasion-the-beatles-unveil-the-u-s-albums-box-set-in-january/

Can't see anything about individual releases yet.

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$160 from Amazon US..
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« Reply #135 on: December 14, 2013, 12:10:00 AM »

Correction, looks like they will be individual as well:-

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/box-set-alert-meet-the-beatles-again-the-us-albums-box-set/#more-23637

And look what they've done with the "Yesterday"... and Today cover!  Too cool!

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« Reply #136 on: December 14, 2013, 12:41:01 AM »

FFS. Is the stupidity of Beatle fans so overwhelming that they'll buy this? Jesus wept.

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« Reply #137 on: December 14, 2013, 08:39:59 AM »


FFS. Is the stupidity of Beatle fans so overwhelming that they'll buy this? Jesus wept.


I may well buy the "Yesterday"... and Tomorrow CD simply because I like some of the alternate mixes that made that record.  The US mix of Dr Robert almost turns the middle eight melody on its head because of the way the vocal harmonies are balanced.  The backwards guitar comes in at different points in I'm Only Sleeping as well.

But primarily this is aimed at US fans who want CD versions of the albums they grew up with.  Now most of those albums may have been butchered and otherwise messed around with, but you can't knock the fans for having that yearning.

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« Reply #138 on: December 14, 2013, 10:31:10 AM »


Now most of those albums may have been butchered and otherwise messed around with, but you can't knock the fans for having that yearning.

Jules


And they were not necessarily aware of that at the time. That is the way as huge audience first experienced the band. Fair play to them.

I am with Jules on Yesterday & Today but there is some concern that the 2009 remasters are being used for these reissues so the quirks of the original US vinyl releases will be lost which seems a bit pointless.

The Hard Days Night & Help releases are interesting too as they are genuine OST albums featuring incidental music from the films which was never released in the UK. Not saying that makes them essential but it does make them legitimate historical artifacts.
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« Reply #139 on: December 14, 2013, 11:06:12 AM »


there is some concern that the 2009 remasters are being used for these reissues so the quirks of the original US vinyl releases will be lost which seems a bit pointless.


I thought that was just for the mixes that don't differ, no?

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