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« Reply #120 on: June 24, 2011, 09:00:07 AM » |
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I'm tempted to say (controversially) the Just Us version of Circle Sky by The Monkees, purely because you can actually hear the vocals unlike the original but otherwise no.
Nah, that Justus version sucks. What you want is the vocals-up mix of the original as found on Missing Links vol 3. Jules Ah. I don't have the Missing Links series. Given the quality of much of the bonus material on the album reissues I gave them a miss and I think they are unavailable now. I'd like to hear that though. One of my favourite Monkees songs spoiled by a lousy recording. Er... back on topic...maybe FC should cover it. Nice fiddle solo in the middle. Would work well I think  |
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« Reply #121 on: June 24, 2011, 09:05:47 AM » |
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Career Opportunities, by The Clash, which they reworked on Sandanista, although that was only a couple of years or so after the original, is one that I can think of.
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« Reply #122 on: June 24, 2011, 09:22:39 AM » |
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Ah. I don't have the Missing Links series. Given the quality of much of the bonus material on the album reissues I gave them a miss and I think they are unavailable now. I'd like to hear that though. One of my favourite Monkees songs spoiled by a lousy recording.
Missing Links 2 and 3 are excellent collections. The alternate mix of Circle Sky has crystal clear vocals, but maybe loses out on some of the instrumental power of the first mix. That original wasn't a lousy recording - it's actually very dynamic. Somebody just forgot to turn the vocals up! I synched the two up and made my own alternate mix. As for Fairport - do we really want a bunch of music legends sitting in with the band and making a "look at our famous friends" record? It's what The Chieftains did when they'd run out of ideas. It pretty much means you've resigned yourself to no longer being creative, so you're content to buy yourself a higher profile by recycling your past with knobs on. It's a vacuous road to travel down IMO. Jules |
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« Reply #123 on: June 24, 2011, 09:33:30 AM » |
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As for Fairport - do we really want a bunch of music legends sitting in with the band and making a "look at our famous friends" record? It's what The Chieftains did when they'd run out of ideas. It pretty much means you've resigned yourself to no longer being creative, so you're content to buy yourself a higher profile by recycling your past with knobs on. It's a vacuous road to travel down IMO.
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Pretty much agree with you. But I do think, if they are going to do it, they have to look outside the folk circuit for their recruits, otherwise it's the same old, same old. We have seen, in the recent past, Johnny Cash and Glen Campbell get a new lease of life when stepping out of their comfort zone and doing something a bit radical, unexpected. |
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« Reply #124 on: June 24, 2011, 09:37:09 AM » |
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We have seen, in the recent past, Johnny Cash and Glen Campbell get a new lease of life when stepping out of their comfort zone and doing something a bit radical, unexpected.
Yes, but they're singers whose producers drafted in younger backing musicians to support on albums including material by younger writers. Conversely, Fairport would presumably back famous singers in the model proposed above (I'm aware that this is all hypothetical) and then it starts to look top-heavy. If they did more of a session thing with pickers and fiddlers etc, or simply covered some younger people's songs, then I'd be much more open to the idea. Jules |
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« Reply #125 on: June 24, 2011, 09:38:41 AM » |
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And Glen Campbell's just called it a day.,....
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« Reply #126 on: June 24, 2011, 09:39:11 AM » |
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As for Fairport - do we really want a bunch of music legends sitting in with the band and making a "look at our famous friends" record? It's what The Chieftains did when they'd run out of ideas. It pretty much means you've resigned yourself to no longer being creative, so you're content to buy yourself a higher profile by recycling your past with knobs on. It's a vacuous road to travel down IMO.
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Pretty much agree with you. But I do think, if they are going to do it, they have to look outside the folk circuit for their recruits, otherwise it's the same old, same old. We have seen, in the recent past, Johnny Cash and Glen Campbell get a new lease of life when stepping out of their comfort zone and doing something a bit radical, unexpected. I don't think they would go down that route. They are forever making the point that they are a working band with their eyes on the future as much as the past and have no wish to be their own tribute band. They want to stand or fall on their own merits and would not want to be overshadowed by their collaborators which is why, I think, this project appears to be backfiring badly before it has really even begun. |
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« Reply #127 on: June 24, 2011, 09:39:25 AM » |
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And Glen Campbell's just called it a day.,....
Alzheimer's, so I hear. Jules |
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« Reply #128 on: June 24, 2011, 10:23:36 AM » |
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And Glen Campbell's just called it a day.,....
Alzheimer's, so I hear. Jules That's very sad. |
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« Reply #129 on: June 24, 2011, 10:31:50 AM » |
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I don't think they would go down that route. They are forever making the point that they are a working band with their eyes on the future as much as the past and have no wish to be their own tribute band. They want to stand or fall on their own merits and would not want to be overshadowed by their collaborators which is why, I think, this project appears to be backfiring badly before it has really even begun.
Normally I'd agree but this is supposed to be a 45 year celebration album so it seems to me the perfect opportunity to get in a whole range of guest singers from that entire period to sing - the likes of John Jones, Jon Boden, Maddy Prior, etc. etc. there's an endless list of possibilities. |
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« Reply #130 on: June 24, 2011, 10:58:14 AM » |
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Normally I'd agree but this is supposed to be a 45 year celebration album so it seems to me the perfect opportunity to get in a whole range of guest singers from that entire period to sing - the likes of John Jones, Jon Boden, Maddy Prior, etc. etc. there's an endless list of possibilities.
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« Reply #131 on: June 24, 2011, 11:17:12 AM » |
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How about a TAWers' version?
Collectively, we could come up with a different song/tune list, there's plenty of musicians & singers on here...
... bagsy vocals on "Polly On The Shore"!
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« Reply #132 on: June 24, 2011, 11:55:04 AM » |
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How about a TAWers' version?
Collectively, we could come up with a different song/tune list, there's plenty of musicians & singers on here...
... bagsy vocals on "Polly On The Shore"!
No way! That one's mine! We'll have to have a deep throat competition. Uh...sorry...that came out wrong.  Jules |
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« Reply #133 on: June 24, 2011, 12:21:06 PM » |
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How about a TAWers' version?
Collectively, we could come up with a different song/tune list, there's plenty of musicians & singers on here...
... bagsy vocals on "Polly On The Shore"!
No way! That one's mine! We'll have to have a deep throat competition. Uh...sorry...that came out wrong. Jules That's just made me spurt my tea all over the keyboard! C x |
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« Reply #134 on: June 24, 2011, 12:22:37 PM » |
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That's just made me spurt my tea all over the keyboard! Next time, choose to swallow rather than spit.  Jules |
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« Reply #135 on: June 24, 2011, 12:24:17 PM » |
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That's just made me spurt my tea all over the keyboard! Next time, choose to swallow rather than spit. Jules ok |
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« Reply #136 on: June 24, 2011, 12:24:36 PM » |
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« Reply #137 on: June 24, 2011, 12:26:37 PM » |
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Ooh matron! Who's going to do Rosie?
OK Jules - you can have Polly (!) if I can sing "Iron Lion".
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« Reply #138 on: June 24, 2011, 12:47:36 PM » |
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OK Jules - you can have Polly (!) if I can sing "Iron Lion".
You're welcome to that one (I can't even remember how it goes). Jules |
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« Reply #139 on: June 24, 2011, 12:48:36 PM » |
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I think we have a new winner of the Topic Drift of the Year award... That's my style, man. They call me The Drifter. (Well, alright they don't call me The Drifter really.) Jules |
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