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« Reply #440 on: January 11, 2011, 04:52:49 PM »

An alert has arrived from GD as another Road Trips offering heaves into view. One whole '88 show & 3/4s of another & no bonus disc.

http://store.dead.net/new/road-trips-vol-4-no-2
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« Reply #441 on: January 19, 2011, 08:05:03 AM »

Makes the Sandy box look like a stroll in the park...

I am willing to prostitute myself for this.  All offers considered  Grin

From Rolling Stone:

DEAD REACH BACK TO LEGENDARY 1972 TOUR FOR MASSIVE BOX SET
Due in fall, the 60-plus CD release includes every show from European
trek.

On April 1st, 1972, the Grateful Dead arrived in Britain for the
opening dates of their first European tour. The timing was perfect -
"the feast of fools," guitarist Bob Weir says, laughing. "There was a
challenge for us, playing for people not familiar with what we were up
to. But we were ready for fresh ears...we were hot."...

In the fall, the tour will be released by Rhino as a limited-edition
beast: 22 shows on more than 60 CDs. The lavish set, available by pre-
order from the Dead's website, will cost over $400 and is
unprecedented even by their archive-box standards.
"By the time we're finished, we'll have put two years into this," says
producer David Lemieux, who expects mixing and mastering to wrap by
June. "If there was ever a tour that needed a complete release, it was
Europe '72. It's one of the top three tours the Dead ever did, and
there's a pristine 16-track recording of every show..."

"I remember that tour clearly," says bassist Phil Lesh, noting that no
one in the band had been to Europe before. [SIC] "In Hamburg, we
played in the hall where Brahms played. In Paris, I literally felt the
spirits of Chopin and Debussy. I think that made us play better. I
remember being on..."
"Someone would catch fire, and that would spread," Bob Weir says. "I'd
catch a riff everyone coalesced around. Then someone else would come
up with something that took us another way. It was a collective flash
- time to move on."

The Dead were in dramatic transition that spring, emboldened by the
jazzy ambitions of new pianist Keith Godchaux. "It was amazing how
tuned in he was to our music," Lesh says. "In Paris, he played like a
god."
The European tour was also the Dead's last with ailing singer-organist
Ron 'Pigpen' McKernan, who died in 1973. "He didn't have as much
energy as before," Weir says, "but he was trying his best to deal with
it."...

Lemieux says other Dead tours deserve full release, such as the fall
of '73 and spring 1990: "It's such a diverse band. You can do boxes
from '72 and '89 back-to-back, and there's nothing similar about them,
except it's Grateful Dead music."
"It all boils down to, 'Is there a story there?'" says Weir. "If we
can find an era like this, with a story line and development - and I
have a feeling there is - there would be merit in doing this again."
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« Reply #442 on: January 19, 2011, 08:52:26 AM »

I'm hyperventilating at the very thought of this box set. Lots of questions are passing through my head.
How can I afford it?
Will my wife divorce me?
Will I ever leave the house again?
What will the postage costs and import duty add onto the already massive costs?
Why does Phil Lesh say none of the band had been to Europe before when The Dead had played gigs in Europe in 1970 and 1971?
Why can't I see anything about this on www.dead.net ?
Where am I?
and mostly 'When can I get my hands on it?'  Grin
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« Reply #443 on: January 19, 2011, 09:26:27 AM »

Well I'm thinking I can maybe afford the boxed set - but I'm not sure about affording the customs charges on this behemoth!

God help me - this is an outrageous release.  60+ discs?!?!

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« Reply #444 on: January 19, 2011, 09:40:04 AM »

After the initial euphoria I'm starting to think this is likely to be a hoax. I know it's not April 1 but I can't see anything about this on Rolling Stone or Dead websites. Similar rumours have been started before and proved to be nothing more than wishful thinking.

I'll be more than happy to be proved wrong but this just seems quite unlikely to me.  Huh
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« Reply #445 on: January 19, 2011, 04:40:04 PM »


After the initial euphoria I'm starting to think this is likely to be a hoax. I know it's not April 1 but I can't see anything about this on Rolling Stone or Dead websites. Similar rumours have been started before and proved to be nothing more than wishful thinking.

I'll be more than happy to be proved wrong but this just seems quite unlikely to me.  Huh


Hi Phil

Me thinks you may be right.  I'm (almost) pleased  Grin
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« Reply #446 on: January 19, 2011, 05:38:19 PM »


I'm (almost) pleased  Grin


Ha!  Me too!

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« Reply #447 on: January 19, 2011, 05:59:21 PM »

From what I can find, it is real, all from an email sent today from dead.net, according to some forums.  I put "DEAD REACH BACK TO LEGENDARY 1972 TOUR FOR MASSIVE BOX SET" into Google and came up with this info.
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« Reply #448 on: January 19, 2011, 06:23:44 PM »

Looks indeed like it's about to be announced on the official site:-

http://store.dead.net/live-shows/europe-72-complete-recordings

Good grief!   Shocked

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« Reply #449 on: January 19, 2011, 06:31:41 PM »


Looks indeed like it's about to be announced on the official site:-

http://store.dead.net/live-shows/europe-72-complete-recordings

Good grief!   Shocked

Jules


For me, this page reads blank now (although it didn't earlier).  It had a pre-order now through April 1st sentence though which only made me more suspicious.

However, on Eurotraders, David Gans (GD Hour etc) has just stated "This is not a hoax".

I believe everything.  And nothing.  I am trying hard to find the email where I precicted this about 6 years ago.  But I can't.  So I must have imagined it all...  Grin
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« Reply #450 on: January 19, 2011, 06:35:58 PM »



I'm (almost) pleased  Grin


Ha!  Me too!

Jules


I'm still trying to save up enough for the Sandy box set!!    Shocked
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« Reply #451 on: January 19, 2011, 06:41:12 PM »


I'm still trying to save up enough for the Sandy box set!!    Shocked


I'm afraid you may be too late for that one, Pete.   Sad

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« Reply #452 on: January 19, 2011, 06:42:14 PM »


However, on Eurotraders, David Gans (GD Hour etc) has just stated "This is not a hoax".


Well that surely makes it official, no?

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I'm still trying to save up enough for the Sandy box set!!    Shocked


I'm afraid you may be too late for that one, Pete.   Sad

Jules

Think you may be right there Jules, judging by the prices being asked on Amazon.   It's like climbing a greasy pole sometimes isn't it?   Sad
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However, on Eurotraders, David Gans (GD Hour etc) has just stated "This is not a hoax".


Well that surely makes it official, no?

Jules


I'm just very suspicious, and particularly about the April 1 date, but, yes, it does appear so.  Who the hell knows?  Not me!  I'll probably dream about it later, mind....!
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« Reply #455 on: January 19, 2011, 07:25:52 PM »

Just got this on another list:

Using a bit of cunning (ie, right-clicking the blank page and selecting 'view source'), we get this;



This is now available for pre-order through April 1, 2011.



This September, Dead.net will release a limited-edition, individually-numbered, Europe '72: The Complete Recordings boxed set which will feature more than 60 discs and over 70 hours of music - every single note recorded on the legendary 22-show Europe '72 tour. Each disc will be mixed by Jeffery Norman, primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material, and mastered to HDCD specs by two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser. While many of the recordings heard on Europe ’72 were sweetened in the studio after the tour, those tracks will be included in this collection without overdubs, where possible.


Every show will include its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, Blair Jackson and Nicholas Meriwether) and concert-goers, as well as many never-before-seen photos. This magnificent, unprecedented collection will also feature memorabilia and ephemera from the tour, and a coffee table-worthy book with a comprehensive tour essay by Blair Jackson and hundreds of never-before-seen photos - all housed in a groovy replica steamer trunk.


As a special bonus, the first 3,000 boxed sets issued will be personalized editions. This unprecedented release will be limited to orders placed, with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced.


Additionally, to reward those loyal fans who have to wait until September to receive the final box set, Dead.net will offer several exclusive goodies over the coming months.


GRATEFUL DEAD EUROPE 1972 TOUR DATES

All shows included in their entirety


April 7         Wembley Empire Pool, Wembley

April 8         Wembley Empire Pool, Wembley

April 11        Newcastle City Hall, Newcastle

April 14        Tivolis Koncertsal, Copenhagen

April 16        Aarhus University, Aarhus

April 17        Tivolis Koncertsal, Copenhagen

April 21        Beat Club, Bremen

April 24        Rheinhalle, Dusseldorf

April 26        Jahrhundert Halle, Frankfurt

April 29        Musikhalle, Hamburg

May 3           Olympia Theatre, Paris

May 4           Olympia Theatre, Paris

May 7           Bickershaw Festival, Wigan

May 10          Concertgebouw, Amsterdam

May 11          Rotterdam Civic Hall, Rotterdam

May 13          Lille Fairgrounds, Lille

May 16          Theatre Hall, Luxembourg

May 18          Kongressaal - Deutsches Museum, Munich

May 23          Strand Lyceum, London

May 24          Strand Lyceum, London

May 25          Strand Lyceum, London

May 26          Strand Lyceum, London


This boxed set will not available in stores or from any other online retailer – only at Dead.net.



Includes: 60+ discs, Book with Liner Notes, Replica Steamer Trunk Box and other memorabilia


Price includes free domestic shipping; Excludes taxes.

International shipping additional charge.
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« Reply #456 on: January 19, 2011, 07:51:01 PM »

So, 7200 copies.  I strongly imagine that this, despite the price, will sell out in hours/days.

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« Reply #457 on: January 19, 2011, 09:42:11 PM »


So, 7200 copies.  I strongly imagine that this, despite the price, will sell out in hours/days.

*sigh*


Sorry, do we know the price?

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So, 7200 copies.  I strongly imagine that this, despite the price, will sell out in hours/days.

*sigh*


Sorry, do we know the price?

Jules


$450.  (Just under £282) Post free in the US... but postage has been a big problem to Europe for GD/Rhino.  I expect it could work out at £350-400 inc postage and customs.

Just as a matter of record, 7,200 x 450 = $3,240,000.  Gulp.
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« Reply #459 on: January 20, 2011, 08:47:26 AM »


I expect it could work out at £350-400 inc postage and customs.


Which isn't really that bad for over 60 CDs.  Ooh, I don't know.  Shall I, or shan't I?  I wonder - do they take the money in advance, or charge you on release date?

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