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« Reply #360 on: October 12, 2010, 09:22:33 AM »


Is this the show Ian, where most Deadheads say the best ever Dark Star was performed?


I'm pretty sure it's one and the same, Pete.

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« Reply #361 on: October 12, 2010, 09:44:57 AM »

The Veneta show, if not the best, is the one of the most psychically important shows, or some such hyperbolic guff. It is, however, indeed a cracker. It was arranged as a benefit for Ken Kesey's family's creamery business & tickets were printed on the back of yoghurt pot labels. It was intended as a field trip party for the extended Dead & Prankster families.

Temperature on the day allegedly reached 108F, presumably unusual for Oregon, but as one who flakes when the glass goes over 70F, it must have been hell without much shade available. As folks started to wilt, a bowser was detailed to spray the crowd with water, but in the nick of time, Kesey's brother realised the truck was that used to empty the portable loos & another was hastily found. Phew.

At one point Weirs announces "Well, the sun's making our instruments get mighty strange. So they'll be out of tune for a little while". Later; "We're changing our name to The Sunstroked Serenaders". Ultimately, they abandoned the second set, (Weir) "We're gonna take another break, let the sun go down a little more and come back and play some more", which the duly did, turning in a 30+ min "Dark Star>El Paso".
 
Filmed professionally as "Sunshine Daydream" the final cut has yet to see the light of day.

(info from Dead Base & deadhead's Taping Compendium Vol.1 & CDR)

I've not come across the "darkstarplace" site before, thanks, David. Bang goes Tuesday.  Smiley
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« Reply #362 on: October 12, 2010, 06:00:41 PM »

Another Dick's Picks has landed on the doormat!  Volume 20 from 1976.  

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« Reply #363 on: October 12, 2010, 06:34:37 PM »


Another Dick's Picks has landed on the doormat!  Volume 20 from 1976.  

Jules


Jules, how do you keep up with it all financially?  I had to give up after  Dick's Picks 9, couldn't keep up with the pace!

I bought the first four From the Vaults, and even splashed out on the two complete album remix box sets, oh yeah the Garcia box set too, but my dear wife was running out of patience even then.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #364 on: October 13, 2010, 09:26:27 AM »


Jules, how do you keep up with it all financially?  I had to give up after  Dick's Picks 9, couldn't keep up with the pace!


Well I only started this year, so I never did keep up!  I'm just selecting various Picks to buy as and when I can.

My salary isn't big, but I do live quite simply.  I don't have a car, I don't buy many clothes, the house is paid for out of the money left to me by my parents when they passed on.  So I can afford a few CDs most months.  I feel lucky.  Who knows what might be around the corner?  Maybe next year I won't be able to afford a pot to p*** in.  But for now, I intend to continue indulging myself.

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« Reply #365 on: October 13, 2010, 09:29:32 AM »


even splashed out on the two complete album remix box sets


They were remastered rather than remixed.  In fact they used original mixes whereever they could.  I believe they had to use the 1970s remix of Aoxomoxoa because the original masters couldn't be found, and they used longer edits of some of the tracks on the debut album, but other than that they were all as originally mixed I believe.

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« Reply #366 on: October 13, 2010, 10:34:10 AM »


My salary isn't big, but I do live quite simply.  I don't have a car, I don't buy many clothes, the house is paid for out of the money left to me by my parents when they passed on.  So I can afford a few CDs most months.  I feel lucky.  Who knows what might be around the corner?  Maybe next year I won't be able to afford a pot to p*** in.  But for now, I intend to continue indulging myself.


Oh and I fogot one other thing - I have no children.  That, right there, for good or ill, is probably the main reason I can go CD shopping!

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« Reply #367 on: October 13, 2010, 06:24:41 PM »



My salary isn't big, but I do live quite simply.  I don't have a car, I don't buy many clothes, the house is paid for out of the money left to me by my parents when they passed on.  So I can afford a few CDs most months.  I feel lucky.  Who knows what might be around the corner?  Maybe next year I won't be able to afford a pot to p*** in.  But for now, I intend to continue indulging myself.


Oh and I fogot one other thing - I have no children.  That, right there, for good or ill, is probably the main reason I can go CD shopping!

Jules

I feel like I've got the full picture now Jules! Good luck to you. At least you're spending your money on top quality music!  Grin
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« Reply #368 on: October 14, 2010, 09:20:46 AM »


I feel like I've got the full picture now Jules!


No, wait, I left out my shoe size.....

 Roll Eyes

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« Reply #369 on: October 14, 2010, 06:47:44 PM »



I feel like I've got the full picture now Jules!


No, wait, I left out my shoe size.....

 Roll Eyes

Jules


Damn, I knew that there was a major flaw in those details!  Smiley
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« Reply #370 on: October 15, 2010, 07:45:25 PM »


The Veneta show, if not the best, is the one of the most psychically important shows, or some such hyperbolic guff. It is, however, indeed a cracker. It was arranged as a benefit for Ken Kesey's family's creamery business & tickets were printed on the back of yoghurt pot labels. It was intended as a field trip party for the extended Dead & Prankster families.

Temperature on the day allegedly reached 108F, presumably unusual for Oregon, but as one who flakes when the glass goes over 70F, it must have been hell without much shade available. As folks started to wilt, a bowser was detailed to spray the crowd with water, but in the nick of time, Kesey's brother realised the truck was that used to empty the portable loos & another was hastily found. Phew.

At one point Weirs announces "Well, the sun's making our instruments get mighty strange. So they'll be out of tune for a little while". Later; "We're changing our name to The Sunstroked Serenaders". Ultimately, they abandoned the second set, (Weir) "We're gonna take another break, let the sun go down a little more and come back and play some more", which the duly did, turning in a 30+ min "Dark Star>El Paso".
 
Filmed professionally as "Sunshine Daydream" the final cut has yet to see the light of day.

(info from Dead Base & deadhead's Taping Compendium Vol.1 & CDR)

I've not come across the "darkstarplace" site before, thanks, David. Bang goes Tuesday.  Smiley
So Ian, is the audio available as a Dick's Picks or From the Vault or whatever?  If so what number was it? This is another one I need!!!!!!!! Fez
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« Reply #371 on: October 16, 2010, 11:00:19 AM »

As far as I know the Veneta show doesn't have an official release, I only have a cassette copy from an ancient source.
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« Reply #372 on: October 16, 2010, 01:20:11 PM »


As far as I know the Veneta show doesn't have an official release, I only have a cassette copy from an ancient source.


You can get it as a download or a boot, but it hasn't been released as a proper CD set.

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« Reply #373 on: October 16, 2010, 07:00:50 PM »



As far as I know the Veneta show doesn't have an official release, I only have a cassette copy from an ancient source.


You can get it as a download or a boot, but it hasn't been released as a proper CD set.

Jules


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« Reply #374 on: October 16, 2010, 08:37:59 PM »

And a very Happy Birthday to the baby of the group...Bobby is 63 today.
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« Reply #375 on: October 17, 2010, 10:23:40 AM »


And a very Happy Birthday to the baby of the group...Bobby is 63 today.


Ace. What a long strange trip......etc. Smiley

Incidentally, returning to Veneta for a mo, I just came across this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/GRATEFUL-DEAD-RENAISSANCE-FAIRE-GROUNDS/dp/B001JJECYQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1287307206&sr=1-1
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« Reply #376 on: October 17, 2010, 10:28:37 AM »



And a very Happy Birthday to the baby of the group...Bobby is 63 today.


Ace. What a long strange trip......etc. Smiley

Incidentally, returning to Veneta for a mo, I just came across this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/GRATEFUL-DEAD-RENAISSANCE-FAIRE-GROUNDS/dp/B001JJECYQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1287307206&sr=1-1


Amazon don't sell boots, eh?  
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« Reply #377 on: October 17, 2010, 08:54:30 PM »

I need more shows...

(the madness of Deadheadedness laid bare for all to see) [Warning: some swearing!]

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7217017/
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« Reply #378 on: October 18, 2010, 09:16:06 AM »


I need more shows...

(the madness of Deadheadedness laid bare for all to see) [Warning: some swearing!]

http://www.xtranormal.com/watch/7217017/


Great stuff. Must track down that Vancouver show  Grin
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« Reply #379 on: October 18, 2010, 09:25:22 AM »

I love that, David, thanks!   Grin

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