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Blackwaterside by Sandy Denny definitely grooves.
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Oh and many of Sinead's folk rock things groove. That Sean-Nos Nua album is a great marriage of trad Irish folk and subtle dance grooves.
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« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2008, 02:42:01 PM » |
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« Reply #25 on: June 20, 2008, 04:53:44 PM » |
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Stuff like When I was On Horseback by Steeleye and the 'Full House' version of Bonny Bunch of Roses, both leave a lot of space, but don't really groove. Whereas John Ridley by The Demon Barbers definately grooves |
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i'm more of a traditional man meself...personally i do like FC stuff from the sixties and a bit- but when people like RT play electric- it aint folk to me........i always thought RT was just a mellow rock guitar/singer kinda thing.
now for grooves......thats another ball park- the three bands to me that groove out in a folky style big time are : shooglenifty and Peatbog Faeries, and the demon barbers.
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« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2008, 10:05:37 AM » |
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Blimey what have I started! Good to get such a comprehensive list of music from the experts and fans that err......I haven't heard off or listened too so aren't really qualified to make any comments at all on this whole area of music. I will spend the weekend at my mates listening to a selection of 'folk rock' and give you my honest feed back. But I am not an expert, I am not that familiar with the genre, but I am open minded...but not so opened minded my brains will fall out in trying to accommodate everyone, I hope.....
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« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2008, 04:09:06 PM » |
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« Reply #31 on: June 21, 2008, 06:14:38 PM » |
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I'm with Shirl and Annie. Tracks that have space? A 'groove'?
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« Reply #32 on: June 21, 2008, 06:28:04 PM » |
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To me space = sparseness, i.e. what is not played (but could easily be) is almost as relevant as what is. Not a constant stream of similar volume / instrumentation, gaps 'n changes 'n dynamics 'n stuff... Groove = swing, but slightly more laid back and with fatter bass  I dunno, err, Gershwin swings, Afro Celts groove, Floyd have space, Santana does the lot  But yeah, ultimately, if it sounds good, it is good... |
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« Reply #33 on: June 21, 2008, 06:29:26 PM » |
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Well, in that case the king of space was Art Tatum.
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« Reply #34 on: June 21, 2008, 07:29:37 PM » |
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most of the above mentioned choons swing rather than groove,imho eg "fishermans blues" and "come all ye" swing like bitches but something like "got to give it up" by Marvin Gaye is a stone groove Grooves, tapping the table, short strokes, driving beats, Riffs with verses and breaks and solos stuck on top. JJ Cale or Superstition by Stevie Wonder, Lots of Average White Band. Parliament. Swing, Waving yer arms about in a big Swingy way, Stephane Grapelli but not Yehudi Menuhin. Obviously Glenn Miller,and Frank, and of course Come All Ye. How's that? |
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« Reply #35 on: June 21, 2008, 10:09:15 PM » |
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« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2008, 08:25:31 PM » |
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Not really folk-rock, but these guys groove - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=1nhq2RUYFqY La Bottine Souriante - a Quebecois folk group, kinda like Bellowhead. |
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« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2008, 08:34:43 PM » |
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They certainly do Ollie... The Smiling Boot.. what a name! What a sound they make .. live!! |
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« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2008, 08:34:44 PM » |
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Deamon barbers version of 'Finest Flower of Serving Men' not only grooves, but is ProgFolk as well!
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« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2008, 09:33:59 PM » |
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