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Title: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on February 16, 2024, 08:44:19 AM
The list is out.

Another chance to buy Anne Briggs self titled,  as if we need it. Though you get a 7" single with it.

The Roches self titled and the Kristin Hersh  debut anniversary interest me.  A few others are maybes.  


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Andy on February 16, 2024, 09:54:09 AM
The eponymous Roches album, if it's their first, is really good and features, amongst others, Robert Fripp.


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on February 16, 2024, 09:59:04 AM

The eponymous Roches album, if it's their first, is really good and features, amongst others, Robert Fripp.


Yes it's  a good one   I don't think there's a bad Roches album. This reissue is a red vinyl  LP.


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Jules Gray on February 16, 2024, 10:16:27 AM

The eponymous Roches album, if it's their first, is really good and features, amongst others, Robert Fripp.


I became a fan of that album just this year thanks to a friend on Twitter. Love it.

Jules


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on February 17, 2024, 08:47:34 AM
https://www.recordstoreday.co.uk/rsd-list


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on April 20, 2024, 12:37:33 PM
Well I got the Anne Briggs album with bonus 7", among other things.

Anyone else buy anything?  


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Poor Will (Bill) on April 21, 2024, 10:44:45 AM

Well I got the Anne Briggs album with bonus 7", among other things.

Anyone else buy anything?  
Neil Young and David Bowie


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on April 21, 2024, 11:34:43 AM


Well I got the Anne Briggs album with bonus 7", among other things.

Anyone else buy anything?  
Neil Young and David Bowie


Great stuff.  Anyone else?


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Peter Allen on April 22, 2024, 10:09:09 AM
I'm starting to move away from vinyl , because of the way it's being marketed these days
We are being over encouraged to collect , by the pressing of short runs in different coloured vinyl
Heaven forbid we remove the shrink wrap and play the flipping thing , removes all the value , or half at least
Even RT's new album came out in 500x blue vinyl  copies before the yellow "initialled"  pressing (if the hardback biog was anything to go by)


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: davidmjs on April 22, 2024, 10:24:49 AM

I'm starting to move away from vinyl , because of the way it's being marketed these days
We are being over encouraged to collect , by the pressing of short runs in different coloured vinyl
Heaven forbid we remove the shrink wrap and play the flipping thing , removes all the value , or half at least
Even RT's new album came out in 500x blue vinyl  copies before the yellow "initialled"  pressing (if the hardback biog was anything to go by)


I drew a line under new vinyl about 3 years ago now.  I don't miss it at all.  I will still very occasionally buy a second hand album that isn't available in a better format (which for me includes on cassette or 8-track) ;D


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Jules Gray on April 22, 2024, 03:22:53 PM

I drew a line under new vinyl about 3 years ago now.  I don't miss it at all.  I will still very occasionally buy a second hand album that isn't available in a better format (which for me includes on cassette or 8-track) ;D


Same, except it's been longer, and obviously not the part about cassette or 8-track.   ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: John From Austin on April 22, 2024, 06:15:11 PM


I drew a line under new vinyl about 3 years ago now.  I don't miss it at all.  I will still very occasionally buy a second hand album that isn't available in a better format (which for me includes on cassette or 8-track) ;D


Same, except it's been longer, and obviously not the part about cassette or 8-track.   ;D

Jules


My last new vinyl purchase was "Endless Wire" by The Who in 2006, and it is still in the shrink wrap.

I still recall the horror of plugging in my brand-new silver CD of "Shades of Deep Purple" circa 1988, and hearing the needle drop.  >:(


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: davidmjs on April 22, 2024, 06:42:57 PM



I drew a line under new vinyl about 3 years ago now.  I don't miss it at all.  I will still very occasionally buy a second hand album that isn't available in a better format (which for me includes on cassette or 8-track) ;D


Same, except it's been longer, and obviously not the part about cassette or 8-track.   ;D

Jules


My last new vinyl purchase was "Endless Wire" by The Who in 2006, and it is still in the shrink wrap.

I still recall the horror of plugging in my brand-new silver CD of "Shades of Deep Purple" circa 1988, and hearing the needle drop.  >:(


I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's been a new vinyl press of it....mastered from that same needle drop CD.  I mean, noone will notice, will they? ;) ;D


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: bassline (Mike) on April 22, 2024, 07:24:41 PM




I drew a line under new vinyl about 3 years ago now.  I don't miss it at all.  I will still very occasionally buy a second hand album that isn't available in a better format (which for me includes on cassette or 8-track) ;D


Same, except it's been longer, and obviously not the part about cassette or 8-track.   ;D

Jules


My last new vinyl purchase was "Endless Wire" by The Who in 2006, and it is still in the shrink wrap.

I still recall the horror of plugging in my brand-new silver CD of "Shades of Deep Purple" circa 1988, and hearing the needle drop.  >:(


I wouldn't be at all surprised if there's been a new vinyl press of it....mastered from that same needle drop CD.  I mean, noone will notice, will they? ;) ;D


There's a history of the various pressings on the wiki page for the record.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shades_of_Deep_Purple

If you're going to con people, you might at least make an effort to edit the evidence out.
Even I had the gumption to drop the needle before starting the tape machine when I copied my records to cassette.


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: davidmjs on April 22, 2024, 08:05:03 PM
To get back on topic, I now (as of 4 mins ago) have a RSD 2024 purchase...the FSOL ISDN 30 release.  On CD of course ;D  And it cost me £14.99.  Happy days.


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Jules Gray on April 22, 2024, 10:26:46 PM

the FSOL ISDN 30 release.


 ???

Jules


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: John From Austin on April 23, 2024, 12:29:50 AM


the FSOL ISDN 30 release.


 ???

Jules


Everyone knows that means "Future Sound of London" ISDN 30th anniversary. I didn't even have to google it...


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: davidmjs on April 23, 2024, 08:19:32 AM



the FSOL ISDN 30 release.


 ???

Jules


Everyone knows that means "Future Sound of London" ISDN 30th anniversary. I didn't even have to google it...


Good man...too many letters for me to type...keep up at the back, Jules ;)


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on April 23, 2024, 09:45:41 AM


I drew a line under new vinyl about 3 years ago now.  I don't miss it at all.  I will still very occasionally buy a second hand album that isn't available in a better format (which for me includes on cassette or 8-track) ;D


Same, except it's been longer, and obviously not the part about cassette or 8-track.   ;D

Jules


I still like my vinyl..  But ive learned though experience  to do my homework before purchase.   If the press release/ hype sticker doesn't say it's done from the original masters, and who by,  then it almost certainly isn't.  Simply  'remastered' can mean anything.  Also, the words 'audiophile vinyl' mean nothing nowadays.  

RSD this year gave me an expanded Kristin Hersh debut. Also BJH : And Other Short Stories, and the Anne Briggs self titled, both taken from original tapes. The Roches album we know nothing about so ive left it alone.


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Jules Gray on April 23, 2024, 12:33:02 PM

Everyone knows that means "Future Sound of London" ISDN 30th anniversary. I didn't even have to google it...


Gosh. I still don't know what it is!  ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Metro96 (Keith) on April 23, 2024, 04:11:14 PM


Everyone knows that means "Future Sound of London" ISDN 30th anniversary. I didn't even have to google it...


Gosh. I still don't know what it is!  ;D

Jules


I've had to Google it.

ISDN is a music album by experimental electronica artists The Future Sound of London which was released in two different versions in 1994 and 1995


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Andy on April 23, 2024, 11:46:23 PM



Everyone knows that means "Future Sound of London" ISDN 30th anniversary. I didn't even have to google it...


Gosh. I still don't know what it is!  ;D

Jules


I've had to Google it.

ISDN is a music album by experimental electronica artists The Future Sound of London which was released in two different versions in 1994 and 1995
Oh. How, um, exciting (not).

Not got a record player and won't be buying one. Vinyl albums were crappy, 20 minutes a side if you were lucky, wore out and were static-ridden. Digital music may not be as "warm" but as the user of two hearing aids, who gives a toss?


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on April 26, 2024, 09:48:45 AM
I'm usually  sanguine about vinyl prices, including RSD  release prices.  If you're getting premium product,  and if like  me you like the medium (I can say I never have static issues, and getting up to turn the LP over was always part of the fun  :) ;) :D) you shop around and pay what you have to or opt out.  

But today my acceptance was tested when I came across The Roches self titled  LP, among RSD  items left over.   £44.99.  Really? I asked the friendly young man  in the store if this was correct.   It was.  


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: davidmjs on April 26, 2024, 09:58:17 AM

I'm usually  sanguine about vinyl prices, including RSD  release prices.  If you're getting premium product,  and if like  me you like the medium (I can say I never have static issues, and getting up to turn the LP over was always part of the fun  :) ;) :D) you shop around and pay what you have to or opt out.  

But today my acceptance was tested when I came across The Roches self titled  LP, among RSD  items left over.   £44.99.  Really? I asked the friendly young man  in the store if this was correct.   It was.  


But that's the precise problem, because a large percentage of modern pressings are utter ****e ;)


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on April 26, 2024, 10:16:44 AM


I'm usually  sanguine about vinyl prices, including RSD  release prices.  If you're getting premium product,  and if like  me you like the medium (I can say I never have static issues, and getting up to turn the LP over was always part of the fun  :) ;) :D) you shop around and pay what you have to or opt out.  

But today my acceptance was tested when I came across The Roches self titled  LP, among RSD  items left over.   £44.99.  Really? I asked the friendly young man  in the store if this was correct.   It was.  


But that's the precise problem, because a large percentage of modern pressings are utter ****e ;)


Well I'm very fussy David,  but id say around one in five or 6 LPs i buy has some sort of pressing issue.  Is this a large percentage?   As with mastering, I try to find out about pressing before purchasing.  I just opened my reissue of Melanie :  Stoneground Words last night.   The pressing is okay but there's something seriously odd about the mastering at some points.  I have to decide whether I can live with it or not. I understand that the CD takeover of 30+ years ago lured many people away from buying LPs.   But when it's right, vinyl repro is breathtaking, certainly on my Tt.


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: davidmjs on April 26, 2024, 10:33:12 AM



I'm usually  sanguine about vinyl prices, including RSD  release prices.  If you're getting premium product,  and if like  me you like the medium (I can say I never have static issues, and getting up to turn the LP over was always part of the fun  :) ;) :D) you shop around and pay what you have to or opt out.  

But today my acceptance was tested when I came across The Roches self titled  LP, among RSD  items left over.   £44.99.  Really? I asked the friendly young man  in the store if this was correct.   It was.  


But that's the precise problem, because a large percentage of modern pressings are utter ****e ;)


Well I'm very fussy David,  but id say around one in five or 6 LPs i buy has some sort of pressing issue.  Is this a large percentage?   As with mastering, I try to find out about pressing before purchasing.  I just opened my reissue of Melanie :  Stoneground Words last night.   The pressing is okay but there's something seriously odd about the mastering at some points.  I have to decide whether I can live with it or not. I understand that the CD takeover of 30+ years ago lured many people away from buying LPs.   But when it's right, vinyl repro is breathtaking, certainly on my Tt.


If that figure is representative (who knows, but it feels more than that to me) then in what other marketplace would 20% flawed product be acceptable?  Nobody seems to understand records any more.  Coloured vinyl - looks nice, sounds pants and doesn't last.  Warping is a huge issue, as is storage of sealed records leading to this warping.  Vinyl shoved between cardboard booklets and/or sleeves is another major issue.  Quality control is uniformly poor all over the industry...


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Nick Reg on April 26, 2024, 11:14:23 AM
Can't we talk about something more interesting like cabbage stalks or toilet roll holders?Listen to the music or you should be on the Top Gear website!


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Jules Gray on April 26, 2024, 12:14:27 PM
This thread's getting more than its fair quota of bitchiness. If you don't enjoy what's being written in a certain thread, then others are available. Works for me.

Jules


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Nick Reg on April 26, 2024, 12:59:04 PM

This thread's getting more than its fair quota of bitchiness. If you don't enjoy what's being written in a certain thread, then others are available. Works for me.

Jules
Now Now you can't expect a lot of very old people, set in their ways, to change just like that.


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on April 26, 2024, 01:27:42 PM

Can't we talk about something more interesting like cabbage stalks or toilet roll holders?Listen to the music or you should be on the Top Gear website!


I'm an audiophile and can take a hint.  :D

I shall continue the discussion by private message.

Who is bitchy btw?


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Jules Gray on April 26, 2024, 02:10:48 PM

Who is bitchy btw?


Your mileage may vary, and I'm certainly not going to point fingers.

Jules


Title: Re: Record store day 2024
Post by: Alan2 on April 26, 2024, 02:16:18 PM


Who is bitchy btw?


Your mileage may vary, and I'm certainly not going to point fingers.

Jules


Reading through the thread think I get what you mean.