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Title: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Andy on October 19, 2020, 03:03:26 PM
DSOTM is, in my opinion, the best album of all time.  

For me, this was the quintessential album of my teenage years and has found resonance in every decade since its release.

It's the one album I have in the car at all times. I've copies on stereo LP, Quadrophonic, tape, CD, 5:1 DVD Audio, DVD video and digital media. It never fails to satisfy.

But I'm under no illusions that people will agree with me. Have at it.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 03:12:35 PM
It's undoubtedly a contender and has been in my top 10 (or thereabouts) since forever.  I can fully see why it could be anyone's favourite, and I wouldn't even begin to want to dissuade you.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 19, 2020, 03:14:31 PM
I go back and forth on this and there is probably no definitive answer but the one I keep returning to is Abbey Road.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Shankly (Peter) on October 19, 2020, 03:21:27 PM
DSOTM is an album that I'm so familiar with that it's easy to forget just how good it is. Sometimes I just like to sit quietly and listen to it all the way through just to remind myself.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: wayne stote on October 19, 2020, 03:36:16 PM
Dark Side Of The Moon is a great album, no doubt. Not one I listen to often but it's always an enjoyable way to spend three quarters of an hour when I do dig it out.

My favourite album is not exactly one that critics foam at the mouth over but I dearly love it, regardless:

REO Speedwagon - You Can Tune A Piano But You Can't Tuna Fish.

It takes moments from all of their previous albums - there's a little bit of prog, boogie, country, and good old fashioned rock & roll - whilst looking ahead to the pop rock glory days of Hi Infidelity, distilling it all down to a glorious whole. What an album!  :)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 03:38:19 PM

I go back and forth on this and there is probably no definitive answer but the one I keep returning to is Abbey Road.


That would probably also be mine, and yet in many ways it's an album that flatters through deception.  John's only on about half of it, and if you split it up into actual songs, and take away the power of side 2's medley presentation, it doesn't stand quite so tall.  Yet having said that, it sounds so creamy and warm.  It pretty much invented the 1970s album.  It's also Macca's finest hour as a singer, arranger, songwriter, and certainly as a bass player.  And Ringo's as a drummer.  And George Martin's as a producer.  And it contains George Harrison's best two Beatles songs.  All of which is my longwinded way of saying I think I agree with you.   ;)

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 19, 2020, 03:52:56 PM


I go back and forth on this and there is probably no definitive answer but the one I keep returning to is Abbey Road.


That would probably also be mine, and yet in many ways it's an album that flatters through deception.  John's only on about half of it, and if you split it up into actual songs, and take away the power of side 2's medley presentation, it doesn't stand quite so tall.  Yet having said that, it sounds so creamy and warm.  It pretty much invented the 1970s album.  It's also Macca's finest hour as a singer, arranger, songwriter, and certainly as a bass player.  And Ringo's as a drummer.  And George Martin's as a producer.  And it contains George Harrison's best two Beatles songs.  All of which is my longwinded way of saying I think I agree with you.   ;)

Jules


Possibly so but I don't think that matters at all for this or any other album. Ultimately you have to set aside the forensic analysis and just ask how great it is as a listening experience. It is one of the reasons why I (and I think you) love the Monkees so much (for example) because it doesn't matter to me who is doing what or whether everyone is playing on the records. It only matters whether the record stands up on its own. Abbey Road absolutely does. Its all about the music, man!


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 04:00:25 PM

Possibly so but I don't think that matters at all for this or any other album. Ultimately you have to set aside the forensic analysis and just ask how great it is as a listening experience. It is one of the reasons why I (and I think you) love the Monkees so much (for example) because it doesn't matter to me who is doing what or whether everyone is playing on the records. It only matters whether the record stands up on its own. Abbey Road absolutely does. Its all about the music, man!


You're right of course.  I just have to convince my analytical mind to agree with us.   ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 04:07:12 PM

It is one of the reasons why I (and I think you) love the Monkees so much (for example) because it doesn't matter to me who is doing what or whether everyone is playing on the records.


And yet it does matter to me, to a certain degree.  I feel so much more warmth and admiration when I know it's Michael playing the guitar and Peter playing the piano.  And even though I had to resign myself to the certainty that Micky was a lousy drummer, I still wish they'd have found a way to keep playing as a more-or-less "real" band.

They really should have made Davy the drummer and had Micky play rhythm guitar.  Apart from anything else it would have saved us from him standing out in the front shaking a tambourine or maracas and looking "winsome".   ::)

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 19, 2020, 04:50:59 PM
I'm Wide Awake It's Morning, Closely followed by Best of Teenage Fanclub and George Best.There are a number of Floyd albums I would go to before DSOTM although I have them all.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 19, 2020, 05:00:37 PM
I like DSotM but as the 4th or 5th best Floyd album it can't possibly be best album of all time  ;)  :)

My normal default answers are usually Forever Changes, Zuma, 1st CSN, Full House, something by the String Band (Hangman, U, 5000 Spirits) plus, er, loads of others ;D


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Phil Perry on October 19, 2020, 05:05:57 PM
For me it's between "Wish You Were Here" and Vangelis' "Heaven & Hell". But "Abbey Road" would be close, as would "Unhalfbricking".


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 05:13:09 PM

My normal default answers are usually Forever Changes, Zuma, 1st CSN, Full House, something by the String Band (Hangman, U, 5000 Spirits) plus, er, loads of others ;D


And mine are: Abbey Road; Who's Next; Murmur; Marquee Moon; Forever Changes; Ommadawn; Village Green Preservation Society; Hunky Dory; Radio City; The Notorious Byrd Brothers; and, uh, The Dark Side of the Moon.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 05:16:52 PM

I like DSotM but as the 4th or 5th best Floyd album it can't possibly be best album of all time  ;)  :)


As my mind is now boggling at what 3 (or 4) Floyd albums you'd have the effrontery to put ahead of it, I demand that you now spill this can of worms (your honour).

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 19, 2020, 05:29:45 PM


I like DSotM but as the 4th or 5th best Floyd album it can't possibly be best album of all time  ;)  :)


As my mind is now boggling at what 3 (or 4) Floyd albums you'd have the effrontery to put ahead of it, I demand that you now spill this can of worms (your honour).

Jules
Piper Umma Gumma, Meddle, WYWH, AHM.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 05:32:53 PM

Piper UmmaGumma, Meddle, WYWH, AHM.


1. Acceptable if Syd is your main thing.
2. Unacceptable - a sprawling half-cocked mess.
3. Acceptable.
4. Acceptable.
5. Good God, no. I mean, most of side 2 is good, but side 1 gets a big klaxon noise from me.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 19, 2020, 05:37:20 PM


Piper UmmaGumma, Meddle, WYWH, AHM.


1. Acceptable if Syd is your main thing.
2. Unacceptable - a sprawling half-cocked mess.
3. Acceptable.
4. Acceptable.
5. Good God, no. I mean, most of side 2 is good, but side 1 gets a big klaxon noise from me.

Jules


Probably not 2 and 5 although I like them a lot more than you, obviously. But I'd put The Wall up above Dark Side.  If I talked about The Final Cut you'd probably think I'm clinically insane but I do LOVE that album.  WYWH is the first Floyd album I fell for, so is almost certainly at the pinnacle for me... It was, unbelievably, about 2020 before I actually heard DSotM in its entirety...


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 05:40:47 PM

If I talked about The Final Cut you'd probably think I'm clinically insane but I do LOVE that album.  


That's you and David Quantick then.

I dunno about The Wall.  There's so much to admire about it, but it's also a bit too Roger Waters centric for me - both in the vocals department, and in the 'Roger goes to the psychiatrist' department.   ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 05:43:00 PM

It was, unbelievably, about 2020 before I actually heard DSotM in its entirety...


That is indeed something of a shocker.   :o

It beats my never having heard a Led Zep album in its entirety until 2014 claim.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 19, 2020, 05:45:13 PM


It was, unbelievably, about 2020 before I actually heard DSotM in its entirety...


That is indeed something of a shocker.   :o

It beats my never having heard a Led Zep album in its entirety until 2014 claim.

Jules


2000, not 2020!


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 05:53:08 PM

2000, not 2020!


Ah. Well that's alright then.   ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 19, 2020, 07:11:44 PM
I find a lot of The Wall unlistenable but of course there's Comfortably Numb.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 19, 2020, 09:26:51 PM

I find a lot of The Wall unlistenable but of course there's Comfortably Numb.


Yeah, I was in two minds whether to include it. There were certainly other contenders for my list but it was such a big deal at the time, particularly for an impressionable 15 year old. I hated and still hate the movie though. Absolutely incomprehensible style over substance (with due respect to the late Alan Parker).


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 19, 2020, 09:31:00 PM

Yeah, I was in two minds whether to include it. There were certainly other contenders for my list but it was such a big deal at the time, particularly for an impressionable 15 year old. I hated and still hate the movie though. Absolutely incomprehensible style over substance (with due respect to the late Alan Parker).


I agree with all of this.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Albie on October 19, 2020, 11:56:08 PM
It's all horses for courses, but I don't like DSOTM. There are a handful of classic albums I just don't get at all, Sgt Pepper is another one.
Blood On The Tracks would get my vote as best ever.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 20, 2020, 06:54:28 AM

It's all horses for courses, but I don't like DSOTM. There are a handful of classic albums I just don't get at all, Sgt Pepper is another one.
Blood On The Tracks would get my vote as best ever.


That's another in the 4th or 5th best album by the band list - it is so flawed I'm always amazed when I see it in Best Ever lists..  I'm tempted to make the same case for BotT but I'll settle for 2nd or 3rd there  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Shankly (Peter) on October 20, 2020, 08:32:19 AM
I suppose I've always thought that Sgt Pepper is so highly regarded not specifically for the music, but for the whole concept and presentation of the album. It was such a big step forward from most of the other stuff around at the time that it changed how we looked at an album as a concept rather than a collection of songs. I'm too young to remember it coming out, but I must have seemed like a revolutionary step to most people.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 20, 2020, 08:49:55 AM

It's all horses for courses, but I don't like DSOTM. There are a handful of classic albums I just don't get at all, Sgt Pepper is another one.
Blood On The Tracks would get my vote as best ever.
On another day I could easily cite BOTT or Forever Changes.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Glen S on October 20, 2020, 09:02:03 AM

DSOTM is, in my opinion, the best album of all time.  

For me, this was the quintessential album of my teenage years and has found resonance in every decade since its release.

It's the one album I have in the car at all times. I've copies on stereo LP, Quadrophonic, tape, CD, 5:1 DVD Audio, DVD video and digital media. It never fails to satisfy.

But I'm under no illusions that people will agree with me. Have at it.


Yep!...I'm happy to go with that alongside Kate Bush The Kick Inside...Ironic really given my teenage listening background of Punk & New Wave... ;D


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: ColinB on October 20, 2020, 10:05:38 AM

It's the one album I have in the car at all times. I've copies on stereo LP, Quadrophonic, tape, CD, 5:1 DVD Audio, DVD video and digital media. It never fails to satisfy.


That's either an impressive or an obsessive number of copies you've got there Andy, depending on your point of view. I'd probably go for Abbey Road with All Things Must Pass coming a close second.

Others that come to mind are Queen's A Night At The Opera and RT's The Old Kit Bag. To complete a top 5 I'll add Cara Dillon's debut.

But then again...  :-\  :)



Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 10:11:52 AM


It's all horses for courses, but I don't like DSOTM. There are a handful of classic albums I just don't get at all, Sgt Pepper is another one.
Blood On The Tracks would get my vote as best ever.


That's another in the 4th or 5th best album by the band list - it is so flawed I'm always amazed when I see it in Best Ever lists..  I'm tempted to make the same case for BotT but I'll settle for 2nd or 3rd there  ;) ;D


Beatles top 5:
1. Abbey Road
2. Rubber Soul
3. A Hard Day's Night
4. Revolver
5. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

Dylan top 5:
1. Blood on the Tracks
2. Desire
3. Blonde on Blonde
4. Highway 61 Revisited
5. Bringing it all Back Home

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 20, 2020, 10:22:22 AM
I'm with Mr Lesley   8)

It's DSOTM every time for me. I love it with the kind of obsession young girls have for boy bands (which is kinda is.... ;) )

I too have it on a variety of formats and listen or watch it weekly. I never get tired of any of it. I want it played at my funeral. I would have had it played at my wedding but I was overruled   ::)

I have lots of albums I truly love and play regularly, but DSOTM tops them all.  :) I'm going to listen to it now

 


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 20, 2020, 10:23:36 AM



It's all horses for courses, but I don't like DSOTM. There are a handful of classic albums I just don't get at all, Sgt Pepper is another one.
Blood On The Tracks would get my vote as best ever.


That's another in the 4th or 5th best album by the band list - it is so flawed I'm always amazed when I see it in Best Ever lists..  I'm tempted to make the same case for BotT but I'll settle for 2nd or 3rd there  ;) ;D


Beatles top 5:
1. Abbey Road
2. Rubber Soul
3. A Hard Day's Night
4. Revolver
5. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

Dylan top 5:
1. Blood on the Tracks
2. Desire
3. Blonde on Blonde
4. Highway 61 Revisited
5. Bringing it all Back Home

Jules


Very close to mine, Jules.  I'd swap 3 and 4 round in the Beatles, and probably move 1 down to 3 and shuffle the other couple up in the Dylan.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Malcolm on October 20, 2020, 10:33:08 AM
Just after DSOTM came out, I was in Cornwall helping renovate part of a friend's house. He had DSOTM on continuous loop all day. Fab.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 20, 2020, 10:38:21 AM
I think The White Album would feature for me at the expense of Pepper. You know a close friend of ours is well known (in Beatles circles) author and historian, but I have no idea what his top 5 would be. I'll ask when I get home.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: bassline (Mike) on October 20, 2020, 10:44:14 AM
I could never award one album as the bestest evarrr.

Dark Side was the album that started off my record buying habit, and Floyd are my favourite band, but I'd put WYWH as number one Floyd (20 copies of that one.)
I tired of The Wall pretty quickly, and, if I have the urge for it, I watch the movie version...just to be contrary..although that doesn't include Hey You, which is my favourite track from it.
My Floyd top 5 would include WYWH, DSOTM, Animals, Meddle and....More.
Jules' Dylan and Beatles top 5 have the same content as mine would, but a different order, perhaps.

If I HAD to choose one album to prevent my goldfish having it's bicycle stolen, it would be Led Zeppelin IV.

Or Physical Graffiti.....

Sorry...looks like you're walking to school, Nemo.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: DarrenWilliams on October 20, 2020, 11:00:00 AM


Dylan top 5:
1. Blood on the Tracks
2. Desire
3. Blonde on Blonde
4. Highway 61 Revisited
5. Bringing it all Back Home


I own 5 Dylan CDs, coincidentally the ones above. What's number 6?


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 11:09:02 AM

Very close to mine, Jules.  I'd swap 3 and 4 round in the Beatles


Funnily enough, I swapped my 3 and 4 around at the last minute.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 11:18:16 AM

I own 5 Dylan CDs, coincidentally the ones above. What's number 6?


That's actually a very difficult question to answer.  The top 5 almost award themselves their honours, but things become a lot more 'suck it and see' after this.

There'd be an argument for The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Bob's first demonstration of his songwriting chops.

Or there's the back to basics rustic charm meets biblical sermonising of John Wesley Harding.

Or maybe the curate's egg that is Street-Legal.  I recommend hearing it in its remixed form, because the original production was lousy.

And some may even point to more recent works, like Oh Mercy or Time out of Mind.

There's even a case to be made for diving into the wonderful and mysterious world of the basement tapes.  If you do, I would suggest the 2-disc The Basement Tapes Raw release.  There's also a boxed set, but I don't think you're quite that rabid.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 11:23:22 AM

I think The White Album would feature for me at the expense of Pepper.


I've always had a very difficult relationship with 'the white album'.  Ultimately, I think it's because it's not Beatley enough.

If anybody else had released it, mind, I'd be declaring it an absolute masterpiece, so there's that to bear in mind.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: wayne stote on October 20, 2020, 11:29:31 AM
For Bob Dylan, I think I'd go:

1. Infidels
2. Blood On The Tracks
3. Bringing It All Back Home
4. Desire
5. New Morning

He's one of the few performers with whom I seem to have a definite cut-off point. With a couple of exceptions, I like his albums up to and including Infidels but would struggle to fill one side of a C60 tape with songs I enjoy thereafter to the point that I stopped listening after Love & Theft.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 11:35:37 AM

For Bob Dylan, I think I'd go:

1. Infidels
2. Blood On The Tracks
3. Bringing It All Back Home
4. Desire
5. New Morning

He's one of the few performers with whom I seem to have a definite cut-off point. With a couple of exceptions, I like his albums up to and including Infidels but would struggle to fill one side of a C60 tape with songs I enjoy thereafter to the point that I stopped listening after Love & Theft.


Infidels could have, and should have, been an absolutely stellar record, but Bob made some bad calls on song selection, and then kept fiddling with the lyrics and overdubs.  He overthought the record.  One of many instances when he needed an outside editor.

I always think of it as a missed opportunity.  But Jokerman will forever be a top 5 Bob song for me.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 20, 2020, 11:35:46 AM



It's all horses for courses, but I don't like DSOTM. There are a handful of classic albums I just don't get at all, Sgt Pepper is another one.
Blood On The Tracks would get my vote as best ever.


That's another in the 4th or 5th best album by the band list - it is so flawed I'm always amazed when I see it in Best Ever lists..  I'm tempted to make the same case for BotT but I'll settle for 2nd or 3rd there  ;) ;D


Beatles top 5:
1. Abbey Road
2. Rubber Soul
3. A Hard Day's Night
4. Revolver
5. Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band

Dylan top 5:
1. Blood on the Tracks
2. Desire
3. Blonde on Blonde
4. Highway 61 Revisited
5. Bringing it all Back Home

Jules


OK, I'll play.

Beatles

1. Abbey Road
2. A Hard Day's Night
3. Revolver
4. Rubber Soul
5. Magical Mystery Tour (cheating, I know)

Bob

1. Blood On The Tracks
2. Desire
3. Street Legal
4. Time Out of Mind
5. Bringing It All Back Home/Freewheelin (tied)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 11:37:38 AM

5. Magicla Mystery Tour (cheating, I know)


"Hey, dat's magic, la!"

 ;)

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: wayne stote on October 20, 2020, 11:53:41 AM


For Bob Dylan, I think I'd go:

1. Infidels
2. Blood On The Tracks
3. Bringing It All Back Home
4. Desire
5. New Morning

He's one of the few performers with whom I seem to have a definite cut-off point. With a couple of exceptions, I like his albums up to and including Infidels but would struggle to fill one side of a C60 tape with songs I enjoy thereafter to the point that I stopped listening after Love & Theft.


Infidels could have, and should have, been an absolutely stellar record, but Bob made some bad calls on song selection, and then kept fiddling with the lyrics and overdubs.  He overthought the record.  One of many instances when he needed an outside editor.

I always think of it as a missed opportunity.  But Jokerman will forever be a top 5 Bob song for me.

Jules


I wasn't aware of its troubled history. I imagine the songs left out have ended up in the Bootleg series, somewhere. Do you know what they are?


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 20, 2020, 12:01:07 PM



For Bob Dylan, I think I'd go:

1. Infidels
2. Blood On The Tracks
3. Bringing It All Back Home
4. Desire
5. New Morning

He's one of the few performers with whom I seem to have a definite cut-off point. With a couple of exceptions, I like his albums up to and including Infidels but would struggle to fill one side of a C60 tape with songs I enjoy thereafter to the point that I stopped listening after Love & Theft.


Infidels could have, and should have, been an absolutely stellar record, but Bob made some bad calls on song selection, and then kept fiddling with the lyrics and overdubs.  He overthought the record.  One of many instances when he needed an outside editor.

I always think of it as a missed opportunity.  But Jokerman will forever be a top 5 Bob song for me.

Jules


I wasn't aware of its troubled history. I imagine the songs left out have ended up in the Bootleg series, somewhere. Do you know what they are?


Some but not all. Chief amongst them was Blind Willie McTell which has been made available as an acoustic version but there is a fantastic band version which has never come out. Then there are Foot Of Pride, Julius & Ethel (never released), a fantastic version of Willie Nelson's Angel Flying Too Close To The Ground which was used as a B Side, Lord Protect My Child, Death Is  Not The End and the amazing This Was My Love which has also never been released.



Edit: I forgot Don't Fly Unless Its Safe (never released), Tell Me and Someone's Got A Hold Of My Heart (later re-recorded as Tight Connection To My Heart)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 12:39:37 PM
There are bootlegs stuffed to the gills with Infidels outtakes.  Have a search on the web.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Albie on October 20, 2020, 12:41:38 PM



Bob

1. Blood On The Tracks
2. Desire
3. Street Legal
4. Time Out of Mind
5. Bringing It All Back Home/Freewheelin (tied)


Similar top three

1. BOTT
2. Street Legal
3. Desire
4. Blonde On Blonde
5. Bringing It All Back Home

I love Time Out Of Mind but of his "recent" work, Modern Times is my favourite, also love Tempest and Love and Theft.
But it's Bob, so on any given day lots of his albums could have me listening and thinking this is his second best work ever (BOTT will always be number one  :)).


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: DarrenWilliams on October 20, 2020, 01:25:11 PM


I own 5 Dylan CDs, coincidentally the ones above. What's number 6?


That's actually a very difficult question to answer.  The top 5 almost award themselves their honours, but things become a lot more 'suck it and see' after this.

There'd be an argument for The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Bob's first demonstration of his songwriting chops.

Or there's the back to basics rustic charm meets biblical sermonising of John Wesley Harding.

Or maybe the curate's egg that is Street-Legal.  I recommend hearing it in its remixed form, because the original production was lousy.

And some may even point to more recent works, like Oh Mercy or Time out of Mind.

There's even a case to be made for diving into the wonderful and mysterious world of the basement tapes.  If you do, I would suggest the 2-disc The Basement Tapes Raw release.  There's also a boxed set, but I don't think you're quite that rabid.

Jules


Thanks Jules. I have listened to Street-legal and love it. The version on Spotify sounds ok to my ears so I suspect it is the remixed version. Moving forward from here it looks like there's a v good/great album in every 4 or 5. Oh Mercy I like a lot, and most of Infidels. There are some great outtakes on the bootleg series, one in particular is When the Night Comes Falling From the Sky. I'm bemused as to how that didn't make the album (Empire Burlesque  ?). I'm sure there are more examples.

Actually, I think I still have the 1970s release of the Basement Tapes on vinyl somewhere...


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 20, 2020, 01:31:28 PM



I own 5 Dylan CDs, coincidentally the ones above. What's number 6?


That's actually a very difficult question to answer.  The top 5 almost award themselves their honours, but things become a lot more 'suck it and see' after this.

There'd be an argument for The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan, Bob's first demonstration of his songwriting chops.

Or there's the back to basics rustic charm meets biblical sermonising of John Wesley Harding.

Or maybe the curate's egg that is Street-Legal.  I recommend hearing it in its remixed form, because the original production was lousy.

And some may even point to more recent works, like Oh Mercy or Time out of Mind.

There's even a case to be made for diving into the wonderful and mysterious world of the basement tapes.  If you do, I would suggest the 2-disc The Basement Tapes Raw release.  There's also a boxed set, but I don't think you're quite that rabid.

Jules


Thanks Jules. I have listened to Street-legal and love it. The version on Spotify sounds ok to my ears so I suspect it is the remixed version. Moving forward from here it looks like there's a v good/great album in every 4 or 5. Oh Mercy I like a lot, and most of Infidels. There are some great outtakes on the bootleg series, one in particular is When the Night Comes Falling From the Sky. I'm bemused as to how that didn't make the album (Empire Burlesque  ?). I'm sure there are more examples.

Actually, I think I still have the 1970s release of the Basement Tapes on vinyl somewhere...


Well, it did but in a very 80s production version which has not aged well. It is another case of great song, bad recording.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 01:45:19 PM

Thanks Jules. I have listened to Street-Legal and love it. The version on Spotify sounds ok to my ears so I suspect it is the remixed version. Moving forward from here it looks like there's a v good/great album in every 4 or 5. Oh Mercy I like a lot, and most of Infidels. There are some great outtakes on the bootleg series, one in particular is When the Night Comes Falling From the Sky. I'm bemused as to how that didn't make the album (Empire Burlesque  ?). I'm sure there are more examples.

Actually, I think I still have the 1970s release of the Basement Tapes on vinyl somewhere...


There's a quick way of checking which Street-Legal you have.  If Changing of the Guards is 6:41, it's the 1978 original, and if it's 7:04 than you have the 1999 remix.

Bob's discography is filled with bemusing "why was this left in the can" moments.  Neil Young too.  They're a perverse pair of fellas.

As for The Basement Tapes, the original was compromised by Robbie Robertson slipping in a bunch of Band songs from different eras, and also leaving out some essential Bob tracks (and overdubbing on some of the ones he included).  The more recent release is so much more satisfying for Bob's stuff.  If you like the Band songs, you can always find those elsewhere.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 06:16:11 PM
Robert Pollard of Guided by Voices has been playing the same game:


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 20, 2020, 06:47:08 PM

Robert Pollard of Guided by Voices has been playing the same game:


That no.2 choice is beyond shocking.  I'm not sure I can ever listen to GbV again  ;D  Disappointing doesn't come close, especially as his no.3 is so fine...


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 07:01:16 PM

That no.2 choice is beyond shocking.  I'm not sure I can ever listen to GbV again  ;D  Disappointing doesn't come close, especially as his no.3 is so fine...


Everyone has their peccadillos.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 20, 2020, 07:18:55 PM


Robert Pollard of Guided by Voices has been playing the same game:


That no.2 choice is beyond shocking.  I'm not sure I can ever listen to GbV again  ;D  Disappointing doesn't come close, especially as his no.3 is so fine...


It is not that bad. It is not the number 2 album of all time admittedly or even the number 200 but it is a decently imaginative album from the period before all their albums became number 2s (post 1975)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 07:24:35 PM

it is a decently imaginative album from the period before all their albums became number 2s


Hahahahaha.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: David W on October 20, 2020, 08:19:01 PM
In terms of influence, and not necessarily my taste, but up there with Sgt Pepper, Pet Sounds, DSOTM one should consider Thriller.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 09:03:18 PM

In terms of influence, and not necessarily my taste, but up there with Sgt Pepper, Pet Sounds, DSOTM one should consider Thriller.


OK, I've considered it.

Next!

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: ColinB on October 20, 2020, 09:08:51 PM


In terms of influence, and not necessarily my taste, but up there with Sgt Pepper, Pet Sounds, DSOTM one should consider Thriller.


OK, I've considered it.

Next!

Jules


Liege and Lief? We are supposed to be fans of Fairport on here.  :)



Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 20, 2020, 09:18:34 PM



In terms of influence, and not necessarily my taste, but up there with Sgt Pepper, Pet Sounds, DSOTM one should consider Thriller.


OK, I've considered it.

Next!

Jules


Liege and Lief? We are supposed to be fans of Fairport on here.  :)


Ha Ha. L & L is nowhere near their best


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 20, 2020, 09:23:23 PM

Liege and Lief? We are supposed to be fans of Fairport on here.  :)


My favourite Fairport LP.  We haven't done 1969 yet!   ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 21, 2020, 07:14:08 AM


Liege and Lief? We are supposed to be fans of Fairport on here.  :)


My favourite Fairport LP.  We haven't done 1969 yet!   ;D

Jules


I've been waiting for this.  We've been here before but it's 3rd or 4th favourite for me (and only the first 5 are eligible for selection. Obviously)  ;) :)  

Generally accepted as most influential, yes, but....


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 21, 2020, 09:34:29 AM



Liege and Lief? We are supposed to be fans of Fairport on here.  :)


My favourite Fairport LP.  We haven't done 1969 yet!   ;D

Jules


I've been waiting for this.  We've been here before but it's 3rd or 4th favourite for me (and only the first 5 are eligible for selection. Obviously)  ;) :)  

Generally accepted as most influential, yes, but....


It's no good. I've run that poll all sorts of ways here. I've tried loading the dice to give other albums a look in. I agree, not their best but it always comes out on top.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Phil Perry on October 21, 2020, 10:38:28 AM
Fairport !?  I refer you to my post on page 1  :)... although I did say Unhalfbricking (which is also Joe Boyd's favourite) rather than L & L.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 21, 2020, 10:47:38 AM

Fairport !?  I refer you to my post on page 1  :)... although I did say Unhalfbricking (which is also Joe Boyd's favourite) rather than L & L.


WWDOOH, Unhalfbricking and Full House are the three I move around in order at the peak of all things Fairport.  But as a five album spread...those first five are, I think, at the peak of any 5-album runs of anybody, Sabs, Led Zep, Joni, Neil et al included....  Sometimes, if I'm feeling generous I even allow Angel Delight to sneak in and play as well.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 21, 2020, 11:31:08 AM

Sometimes, if I'm feeling generous I even allow Angel Delight to sneak in and play as well.


If you let Angel Delight in, then you have to let 'Babbacombe' Lee in as well.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 21, 2020, 11:38:55 AM


Sometimes, if I'm feeling generous I even allow Angel Delight to sneak in and play as well.


If you let Angel Delight in, then you have to let 'Babbacombe' Lee in as well.

Jules


In truth, I think both of them, whilst decent albums which I love, actually function at a level somewhat below that of the first five....


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: ColinB on October 21, 2020, 11:56:28 AM

Fairport !?  I refer you to my post on page 1  :)... although I did say Unhalfbricking (which is also Joe Boyd's favourite) rather than L & L.


I did see that and someone else mentioned Full House so I know Fairport hasn't been completely ignored. But it's interesting how little folk music has made it on to people's lists of favourite albums - me being as guilty as anyone else. That is probably because the 70s was so dominated by rock music and the only folk-influenced music I listened to in the 80s was the likes of Runrig and the Pogues.  


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 21, 2020, 03:02:29 PM

In truth, I think both of them, whilst decent albums which I love, actually function at a level somewhat below that of the first five....


Not convinced about the debut, but otherwise, I wouldn't necessarily disagree.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 21, 2020, 04:54:43 PM


In truth, I think both of them, whilst decent albums which I love, actually function at a level somewhat below that of the first five....


Not convinced about the debut, but otherwise, I wouldn't necessarily disagree.

Jules


Oh, it's a brilliant album, utterly brilliant...although I guess context is all (would I love it as much if it was produced in LA, for instance?).


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 21, 2020, 04:58:12 PM

Oh, it's a brilliant album, utterly brilliant...


I admit it's been a while.  Maybe a fresh spin is in order.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 21, 2020, 06:53:48 PM


Fairport !?  I refer you to my post on page 1  :)... although I did say Unhalfbricking (which is also Joe Boyd's favourite) rather than L & L.


WWDOOH, Unhalfbricking and Full House are the three I move around in order at the peak of all things Fairport.  But as a five album spread...those first five are, I think, at the peak of any 5-album runs of anybody, Sabs, Led Zep, Joni, Neil et al included....  Sometimes, if I'm feeling generous I even allow Angel Delight to sneak in and play as well.
Pretty much spot on with most of that although I wouldn't change the order


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 21, 2020, 07:59:25 PM
Fairport top 5:

1. Liege & Lief
2. Full House (expanded CD version, because without Poor Will it slips down the list)
3. Unhalfbricking
4. 'Babbacombe' Lee
5. Nine...or Angel Delight...or What We Did on Our Holidays...  :-\

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: wayne stote on October 21, 2020, 09:18:04 PM
I love Liege & Lief but such is the strength of the canon, it's a mid-level Fairport release for me, at least enjoyment-wise. My top five is subject to change but currently:

1. Tipplers Tales
2. Angel Delight
3. Full House (if the reissue with Poor Will & Now Be Thankful is a valid choice.  :))
4. The Bonny Bunch Of Roses
5. The Five Seasons

If Full House is dodgy, remove it, bump four & five up a place and add The Wood & The Wire as the new five.  :)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Brendan on October 21, 2020, 11:52:12 PM
1. Steve Ashley - Speedy Return
2. Wishbone Ash - Argus
3. Genesis - Live
4. Kevin Coyne - in living black and white
5. Amazing Blondel - England
6. Strawbs - Grave New World
7. Sandy Denny - North Star Grassman and the Ravens
8. Fairport Convention - Babbacombe Lee
9. Shirley Collins and the Albion Country Band - No Roses
10. Ewan McCollum, Peggy Seeger and Charles Parker - Singing the Fishing
Not necessarily on purely musical merit, I just go back to them and I will play the to death, where as other albums I have played to the point I still love them but can’t listen to them. The list may change tomorrow which is in less than ten minutes as I post


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: DarrenWilliams on October 22, 2020, 01:20:17 PM
I think I'd have to say "The Best of The Beatles"


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Peter Allen on October 22, 2020, 01:43:06 PM



In truth, I think both of them, whilst decent albums which I love, actually function at a level somewhat below that of the first five....


Not convinced about the debut, but otherwise, I wouldn't necessarily disagree.

Jules


Oh, it's a brilliant album, utterly brilliant...although I guess context is all (would I love it as much if it was produced in LA, for instance?).


 RT dislikes the first LP with a passion , told me so himself , in 2018 , confirmed by Simon 2 months later


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 22, 2020, 01:55:11 PM

 RT dislikes the first LP with a passion , told me so himself , in 2018 , confirmed by Simon 2 months later


Never heard that myself...I can find quotes where he talks about it quite fondly too, so I suspect you're maybe overstating that at least somewhat?  Anyway, what the hell does he know - we already know he has totally irrational loathing of some of his own albums too, so he has form  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 22, 2020, 02:59:40 PM

I think I'd have to say "The Best of The Beatles"


 ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Peter Allen on October 22, 2020, 09:23:50 PM


 RT dislikes the first LP with a passion , told me so himself , in 2018 , confirmed by Simon 2 months later


Never heard that myself...I can find quotes where he talks about it quite fondly too, so I suspect you're maybe overstating that at least somewhat?  Anyway, what the hell does he know - we already know he has totally irrational loathing of some of his own albums too, so he has form  ;) ;D

"Detests " was the word Simon used , I was mooting the idea of the original line up making a follow up to the first LP , 51 years on , imagine Judy hadn't left , the phone goes , it's Polydor wanting a second LP ( given that all but the drummer in 2018 were alive and all still performing - how many bands from that era can you say that about ) Where to start , a chance for the originals to collaborate , pick a few choice covers Dylan , Mitchell ? , Rhodes? ,  the Heyday material from 1968?.More or less a blank canvas , less of the it's Full House line up  so we've got to do Walk Awhile and Sloth , or it's L&L so  Matty Groves  is a must , get away from the "hits"
So I mentioned it to Richard (everyone's moved on although if I liked the second LP I was in for a treat that night- a ref to playing  "Hard Times"), Iain Matthews (said diaries would never coincide to allow it to happen ) Simon laughed but said if RT didn't detest the Polydor album  so much ... Judy thought (she kindly responded to me on here as I joined TAW ) it was a nice idea but would stay just that . and Ashley (met him the same night as Simon ) said it was hard enough getting people to reform to play some old songs at Cropredy let alone doing something new  - and his "beginnings of Fairport" shows were as close as he would get to 1967-which is a credit to him
And of course , ego's , management , contracts , commitments/diaries would all stop it from happening , as business would surely stop it from being  fun to reform
I just thought it would be more fun to propose an idea , however improbable , rather than just going up to all of these brilliant musicians and telling them how great they were 50 years ago (!) - and how approachable and friendly these guys where .Thinking  back now, it's a wonder they didn't punch me ....and now Judy's gone


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Phil Perry on October 23, 2020, 04:33:01 PM

I love Liege & Lief but such is the strength of the canon, it's a mid-level Fairport release for me, at least enjoyment-wise. My top five is subject to change but currently:

1. Tipplers Tales
2. Angel Delight
3. Full House (if the reissue with Poor Will & Now Be Thankful is a valid choice.  :))
4. The Bonny Bunch Of Roses
5. The Five Seasons

If Full House is dodgy, remove it, bump four & five up a place and add The Wood & The Wire as the new five.  :)


Great credit here for going out on a limb and putting Tipplers first, although even I wouldn't go that far ... perhaps third favourite after Unhalfbricking and Full House.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: wayne stote on October 23, 2020, 05:15:00 PM


I love Liege & Lief but such is the strength of the canon, it's a mid-level Fairport release for me, at least enjoyment-wise. My top five is subject to change but currently:

1. Tipplers Tales
2. Angel Delight
3. Full House (if the reissue with Poor Will & Now Be Thankful is a valid choice.  :))
4. The Bonny Bunch Of Roses
5. The Five Seasons

If Full House is dodgy, remove it, bump four & five up a place and add The Wood & The Wire as the new five.  :)


Great credit here for going out on a limb and putting Tipplers first, although even I wouldn't go that far ... perhaps third favourite after Unhalfbricking and Full House.


Cheers.

I particularly enjoyed the band when they featured the triumvirate of Swarb, Peggy and Simon. Wish Vertigo would have let them see out their contract rather than pay them off.

It never fails to amaze me though that, given the amount of line-ups the band went through, how high the the quality of their releases remained. Even "lesser" albums (insert your own choice here) were usually, at the very least, interesting. Paradoxical how a band with so many epochs remain a one-off.  :)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Will S on October 23, 2020, 05:58:05 PM
That's such a difficult choice - top album of all time...  What criteria do you use to choose?

If I'm thinking of an album that's been with me a long time, and that I still reckon is darn near perfect, it would be hard to beat Jackson Browne's Late For The Sky.  Or Bruce Cockburn's Circles In The Stream.  Totally subjective choices, and not ones that would make most people's top 50, I guess. Or then maybe Al Stewart's Modern Times or Past Present & Future...  Unhalfbricking and Liege & Lief get in there too...  So does Trick Of The Tail.  And Broadsword And The Beast and Songs From The Wood.  Permanent Waves and Moving Pictures...  Twelfth Night's Live And Let Live.  The more I think, the more I come up with, so I shall stop there...  Oh, and Argus.  How could I forget that one...?  What else have I forgotten?


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 23, 2020, 06:00:00 PM

Wish Vertigo would have let them see out their contract rather than pay them off.


I'm not sure they'd agree.  They talk very lovingly of their pay off.  £7k each wasn't it?  [c£40k at today's values] Bought houses and other grown up stuff, I think...  ;D


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: wayne stote on October 23, 2020, 07:12:16 PM


Wish Vertigo would have let them see out their contract rather than pay them off.


I'm not sure they'd agree.  They talk very lovingly of their pay off.  £7k each wasn't it?  [c£40k at today's values] Bought houses and other grown up stuff, I think...  ;D


I think in pretty much every Fairport book I've read there a paragraph or two from Peggy saying how delighted he was with his Vertigo dosh.  :)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Will S on October 23, 2020, 08:05:52 PM
Pink Floyd, that's who I forgot! Dark Side of the Moon and Wish you Were Here both should figure.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 23, 2020, 10:45:37 PM

Pink Floyd, that's who I forgot! Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here both should figure.


This is where we came in.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: YaBB Master (Colin) on October 23, 2020, 11:44:24 PM
Standing back a long way there are a lot of contenders, but I nominate:

Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks. In a golden year of albums, this stood above all else.

Then again there's:

The Lemonheads - Shame About Ray. I'll forgive them including a cover of 'Mrs Robinson', but the rest at only 25 minutes is perfectly formed.

Or quietly just being lovely:

Laurie Anderson - Strange Angels  


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 24, 2020, 10:05:17 AM


Pink Floyd, that's who I forgot! Dark Side of the Moon and Wish You Were Here both should figure.


This is where we came in.

Jules


Are you nominating the Bee Gees album of that title?  ;)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 24, 2020, 02:35:27 PM

Are you nominating the Bee Gees album of that title?  ;)


I didn't even know there was one!

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 24, 2020, 02:37:21 PM


Are you nominating the Bee Gees album of that title?  ;)


I didn't even know there was one!

Jules


There isn't  ;) ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Where_I_Came_In


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 24, 2020, 04:04:38 PM



Are you nominating the Bee Gees album of that title?  ;)


I didn't even know there was one!

Jules


There isn't  ;) ;D

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/This_Is_Where_I_Came_In


Spoilsport. It was still a pretty good gag. What is one word between friends?


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jim on October 24, 2020, 11:17:20 PM


Wish Vertigo would have let them see out their contract rather than pay them off.


If you are an FC fan you should be rejoicing that they were paid off.  Had Vertigo not pulled the plug when they did there would probably have been no FC around since then.  Then again their reputation and legacy would be intact and not tainted by the awful records released since.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: wayne stote on October 24, 2020, 11:41:30 PM



Wish Vertigo would have let them see out their contract rather than pay them off.


If you are an FC fan you should be rejoicing that they were paid off.  Had Vertigo not pulled the plug when they did there would probably have been no FC around since then.  Then again their reputation and legacy would be intact and not tainted by the awful records released since.


Well, it's true they might have petered out after a few more releases. I really do like that line-up though.

Having said that, I think pretty much every studio release from Gladys' Ridge onwards has been worth owning and I find a a fair few of them more enjoyable than some of the "classic" releases.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Ancient Muse (Andy) on October 25, 2020, 02:25:44 AM
Oh my goodness, how do I pick one? My first thought was to agree with Andy, DSOTM has to be up there as one that you can turn to at any time and it doesn't sound boring or dated. Then I thought, but what about those albums that have had great meaning at a particular time in my life? So here's the (short) list, in no particular order:

Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon
Simon and Garfunkel - Bridge over Troubled Water
Jeff Wayne's War of the Worlds
Jon and Vangelis - Short Stories
Loreena McKennitt - An Ancient Muse

If my house was on fire and I could only save five albums, I guess Gigspanner, Dead Can Dance, Sigur Ros, Elton John, Fairport and yes, even Bellowhead, wouldn't survive the conflagration.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: mickf on October 25, 2020, 09:11:44 AM
1 Who's Next - The Who
2 A Question of Balance - Moody Blues
3 Fog on the Tyne - Lindisfarne
4 Liege and Lief - Fairport Convention
5 Led Zeppelin 4 - Led Zeppelin
6 Bridge Over Troubled Water - Simon and Garfunkel
7 Teaser and the Firecat - Cat Stevens
8 Abbey Road - The Beatles
9 Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd
10 No Secrets - Carly Simon
11 In Rock - Deep Purple
12 Tapestry - Caole King
13 Surf's Up - Beach Boys


Obviously this could all change tomorrow!


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Peter Allen on October 26, 2020, 11:11:11 AM
Could do with Tapestry a lot higher but Who's Next , considering it's from the remnants of Lifehouse , a collapsed project , makes a real good choice for any  non Floyd fans .
Especially with "Pure & Easy" tacked on it.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 26, 2020, 01:12:15 PM

Could do with Tapestry a lot higher but Who's Next , considering it's from the remnants of Lifehouse , a collapsed project , makes a real good choice for any  non Floyd fans .
Especially with "Pure & Easy" tacked on it.
Tapestry would easily be my favourite by a female artist. Incredible


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Jules Gray on October 26, 2020, 01:38:37 PM

Who's Next, considering it's from the remnants of Lifehouse, a collapsed project, makes a real good choice for any non Floyd fans. Especially with "Pure & Easy" tacked on it.


It's a good choice for a Floyd fan too. *points at self*

And yes, for a flawed album, it's paradoxically all but flawless.

Jules


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Will S on October 26, 2020, 01:50:39 PM
Tapestry - that's another one that should have been on my list.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 26, 2020, 02:31:04 PM


Could do with Tapestry a lot higher but Who's Next , considering it's from the remnants of Lifehouse , a collapsed project , makes a real good choice for any  non Floyd fans .
Especially with "Pure & Easy" tacked on it.
Tapestry would easily be my favourite by a female artist. Incredible


Now that is an interesting question. Favourite albums by female artists. Not sure we should be making these distinctions in the 21st century but I an going to have a think anyway.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 26, 2020, 02:57:02 PM
1. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake
2. Best of Teenage Fanclub
3. Wedding Present - George Best
4. Merry Hell - Im Wide Awake
5. Eclection
6. FC - WWDOOH
7. FC - Unhalfbricking
8. Ryan Adams - Heartbreaker
9. Bob - Blood on the Tracks
10. Tansads - Flock
11. Embrace - The Good Will Out
12. Mott The Hoople - Wildlife
13. Love - Forever Changes
14. Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
15. Al Stewart - Love Chronicles
16. Johnny Cash - American IV
17. Grateful Dead - American Beauty
18. Lucinda Williams - West
19. Oyster Band - Holy Bandits
20. Neil Young - Freedom

That order could change at any time and, probably 11 and 13 should be higher.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 26, 2020, 04:53:45 PM



Could do with Tapestry a lot higher but Who's Next , considering it's from the remnants of Lifehouse , a collapsed project , makes a real good choice for any  non Floyd fans .
Especially with "Pure & Easy" tacked on it.
Tapestry would easily be my favourite by a female artist. Incredible


Now that is an interesting question. Favourite albums by female artists. Not sure we should be making these distinctions in the 21st century but I an going to have a think anyway.
As a female I give my permission  :D ;)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Shankly (Peter) on October 26, 2020, 04:58:23 PM




Could do with Tapestry a lot higher but Who's Next , considering it's from the remnants of Lifehouse , a collapsed project , makes a real good choice for any  non Floyd fans .
Especially with "Pure & Easy" tacked on it.
Tapestry would easily be my favourite by a female artist. Incredible


Now that is an interesting question. Favourite albums by female artists. Not sure we should be making these distinctions in the 21st century but I an going to have a think anyway.
As a female I give my permission  :D ;)


Interesting, but would it include female fronted bands or just solo female artists?


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 26, 2020, 06:10:51 PM
I like bands with male and female vocalists, does that make me PC? ;D


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 26, 2020, 06:23:04 PM

1. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake
2. Best of Teenage Fanclub
3. Wedding Present - George Best
4. Merry Hell - Im Wide Awake
5. Eclection


Feedback is now in, and this is officially the most 'out there' Top Albums of all Time Top 5 ever created...  ;)


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 26, 2020, 06:37:19 PM


1. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake
2. Best of Teenage Fanclub
3. Wedding Present - George Best
4. Merry Hell - Im Wide Awake
5. Eclection


Feedback is now in, and this is officially the most 'out there' Top Albums of all Time Top 5 ever created...  ;)


Especially as the fourth album on the list doesn't actually exist.  ;D


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: blagden on October 26, 2020, 09:01:06 PM



1. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake
2. Best of Teenage Fanclub
3. Wedding Present - George Best
4. Merry Hell - Im Wide Awake
5. Eclection


Feedback is now in, and this is officially the most 'out there' Top Albums of all Time Top 5 ever created...  ;)


Especially as the fourth album on the list doesn't actually exist.  ;D


Not sure if it should be included in any Top Album Of All Time list but Bloodlines is a very fine record.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 26, 2020, 11:22:36 PM



1. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake
2. Best of Teenage Fanclub
3. Wedding Present - George Best
4. Merry Hell - Im Wide Awake
5. Eclection


Feedback is now in, and this is officially the most 'out there' Top Albums of all Time Top 5 ever created...  ;)


Especially as the fourth album on the list doesn't actually exist.  ;D


Read "Blink". Must be the overexcitement.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 26, 2020, 11:26:17 PM


1. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake
2. Best of Teenage Fanclub
3. Wedding Present - George Best
4. Merry Hell - Im Wide Awake
5. Eclection


Feedback is now in, and this is officially the most 'out there' Top Albums of all Time Top 5 ever created...  ;)


And who wants to be normal? I think if I was I'd go mad. Work that one out.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 27, 2020, 07:33:36 AM



1. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake
2. Best of Teenage Fanclub
3. Wedding Present - George Best
4. Merry Hell - Im Wide Awake
5. Eclection


Feedback is now in, and this is officially the most 'out there' Top Albums of all Time Top 5 ever created...  ;)


Especially as the fourth album on the list doesn't actually exist.  ;D


Not even sure the second one does either, does it (the Short Cuts one, I'm guessing...but compilation albums is a whole other genre anyway)?


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 27, 2020, 07:47:14 AM




1. Bright Eyes - I'm Wide Awake
2. Best of Teenage Fanclub
3. Wedding Present - George Best
4. Merry Hell - Im Wide Awake
5. Eclection


Feedback is now in, and this is officially the most 'out there' Top Albums of all Time Top 5 ever created...  ;)


Especially as the fourth album on the list doesn't actually exist.  ;D


Not even sure the second one does either, does it (the Short Cuts one, I'm guessing...but compilation albums is a whole other genre anyway)?
 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Thousand-Seven-Hundred-Sixty-Seconds/dp/B00006ZSD2/ref=sr_1_8?crid=GVQVYB32ZU54&dchild=1&keywords=teenage+fanclub&qid=1603784719&s=music&sprefix=teenaGE%2Caps%2C172&sr=1-8
Ive got it!! Thats a subtitle.

An album is an album. There was nothing to suggest any genre was excluded.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 27, 2020, 10:45:09 AM





Could do with Tapestry a lot higher but Who's Next , considering it's from the remnants of Lifehouse , a collapsed project , makes a real good choice for any  non Floyd fans .
Especially with "Pure & Easy" tacked on it.
Tapestry would easily be my favourite by a female artist. Incredible


Now that is an interesting question. Favourite albums by female artists. Not sure we should be making these distinctions in the 21st century but I an going to have a think anyway.
As a female I give my permission  :D ;)


Interesting, but would it include female fronted bands or just solo female artists?


Giving this further thought and it is a bit of a sticky wicket. I would say yes if they were the main creative force in the band (Heart or Fotheringay for example, off the top of my  head) but where does that leave a band like Fleetwood Mac with two great female songwriters but also a crucial male one. Might be best to keep it simple.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: davidmjs on October 27, 2020, 11:01:20 AM

An album is an album. There was nothing to suggest any genre was excluded.


In most album lists I've seen live albums and compilations are excluded and are given their own category.  But you're quite right, that wasn't explicit here I don't think.  Although interesting that (I think) this is the only inclusion of either?


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 27, 2020, 11:34:21 AM


An album is an album. There was nothing to suggest any genre was excluded.


In most album lists I've seen live albums and compilations are excluded and are given their own category.  But you're quite right, that wasn't explicit here I don't think.  Although interesting that (I think) this is the only inclusion of either?


No it isnt.  ;D


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Will S on October 27, 2020, 11:51:31 AM


An album is an album. There was nothing to suggest any genre was excluded.


In most album lists I've seen live albums and compilations are excluded and are given their own category.  But you're quite right, that wasn't explicit here I don't think.  Although interesting that (I think) this is the only inclusion of either?


I included a couple of live albums in my list (Bruce Cockburn and Twelfth Night).  I didn't think about including compilations though.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 27, 2020, 11:58:29 AM
Ok, here goes. 24 (I couldn't narrow it down any further) great albums by chick singers  ;):

Blue - Joni Mitchell
Tapestry - Carole King
Hejira - Joni Mitchell
Nightout - Ellen Foley
Something's Going On - Frida
She's So Unusual - Cyndi Lauper
Different Light - The Bangles
The Dreaming - Kate Bush
Hounds of Love - Kate Bush
Suzanne Vega - Suzanne Vega
Solitude Standing - Suzanne Vega
Famous Blue Raincoat - Jennifer Warnes
Tracy Chapman - Tracy Chapman
Kite - Kirsty  Macoll
A Few Small Repairs - Shawn Colvin
I'm With Stupid - Aimee Mann
Ingenue - k d lang
Sheryl Crow - Sheryl Crow
Mortal City - Dar Williams
Gone From Danger - Joan Baez
Surfacing - Sarah McLachlan
Car Wheels On A Gravel Road - Lucinda Williams
Fashionably Late - Linda Thompson
Big Machine - Eliza Carthy & The Wayward Band


This is deeply flawed because it includes nothing by Aretha Franklin, Janis Joplin, Dusty Springfield, Carly Simon or Emmylou Harris of whom I only own compilations. Also because in reality at least 5 of the 10 best female artist albums ever are by Joni Mitchell. And I would have liked to include The Pretenders and Gilmore & Roberts but they didn't fit the criteria.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 27, 2020, 12:07:49 PM

Ok, here goes. 24 (I couldn't narrow it down any further) great albums by chick singers  ;):

Blue - Joni Mitchell
Tapestry - Carole King
Hejira - Joni Mitchell
Nightout - Ellen Foley
Something's Going On - Frida
She's So Unusual - Cyndi Lauper
Different Light - The Bangles
The Dreaming - Kate Bush
Hounds of Love - Kate Bush
Suzanne Vega - Suzanne Vega
Solitude Standing - Suzanne Vega
Famous Blue Raincoat - Jennifer Warnes
Tracy Chapman - Tracy Chapman
Kite - Kirsty  Macoll
A Few Small Repairs - Shawn Colvin
I'm With Stupid - Aimee Mann
Ingenue - k d lang
Sheryl Crow - Sheryl Crow
Mortal City - Dar Williams
Gone From Danger - Joan Baez
Surfacing - Sarah McLachlan
Car Wheels On A Gravel Road - Lucinda Williams
Fashionably Late - Linda Thompson
Big Machine - Eliza Carthy & The Wayward Band


This is deeply flawed because it includes nothing by Aretha Franklin, Janis Joplin, Dusty Springfield, Carly Simon or Emmylou Harris of whom I only own compilations. Also because in reality at least 5 of the 10 best female artist albums ever are by Joni Mitchell. And I would have liked to include The Pretenders and Gilmore & Roberts but they didn't fit the criteria.



good list but I would replace the Eliza Carthy by Natalie Maines "Mother".


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 27, 2020, 12:26:52 PM



good list but I would replace the Eliza Carthy by Natalie Maines "Mother".


There were plenty I had to leave off by the likes of Mary Chapin Carpenter, Roseanne Cash, Elastica and Virginia Kettle to name but a few.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Nick Reg on October 27, 2020, 12:40:27 PM




good list but I would replace the Eliza Carthy by Natalie Maines "Mother".


There were plenty I had to leave off by the likes of Mary Chapin Carpenter, Roseanne Cash, Elastica and Virginia Kettle to name but a few.


I saw Rosanne live about 4 years ago and it was the best concert by a female artiste I have seen for years.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 27, 2020, 12:42:38 PM





good list but I would replace the Eliza Carthy by Natalie Maines "Mother".


There were plenty I had to leave off by the likes of Mary Chapin Carpenter, Roseanne Cash, Elastica and Virginia Kettle to name but a few.


I saw Rosanne live about 4 years ago and it was the best concert by a female artiste I have seen for years.


Same for me with Mary Chapin Carpenter a couple of years ago.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 27, 2020, 01:19:13 PM
This thread is for the "Top Album of All Time"

You can't have a Top Twenty - you have to choose one. Just one. Very, very hard but only one.  :-\



Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: Andy on October 27, 2020, 01:54:27 PM
Phoebe Snow remains amongst my favourite women singers.


Title: Re: Top Album of All Time
Post by: John From Austin on October 27, 2020, 03:27:07 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm....

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