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Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: GubGub (Al) on June 03, 2020, 12:29:00 PM
Paradise & Thorns - Ashley Hutchings

I took delivery of this and some other Ashley related items a couple of days ago and am now giving them a listen but there does seem to be some of the usual Talking Elephant sleight of hand here with no source information given for the tracks. Some of them from this album and Gone Missing have definitely been released before, in particular on As You Like It and By Gloucester Docks Live and also I suspect late period Albions and Rainbow Chasers  albums (I haven't checked yet). It is really quite annoying. Paradise & Thorns in particular is promoted as a new work but is at least in part a compilation of old material. It is still an enjoyable listen of course but the disingenuousness is irritating.



Edit: This post, originally in "Listening To", prompted a discussion about the Albion Band that's interesting enough to have its own thread...


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: davidmjs on June 03, 2020, 12:52:50 PM

Paradise & Thorns - Ashley Hutchings

I took delivery of this and some other Ashley related items a couple of days ago and am now giving them a listen but there does seem to be some of the usual Talking Elephant sleight of hand here with no source information given for the tracks. Some of them from this album and Gone Missing have definitely been released before, in particular on As You Like It and By Gloucester Docks Live and also I suspect late period Albions and Rainbow Chasers  albums (I haven't checked yet). It is really quite annoying. Paradise & Thorns in particular is promoted as a new work but is at least in part a compilation of old material. It is still an enjoyable listen of course but the disingenuousness is irritating.


They are an, er, interesting label, yes...  ;) ;D


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: DarrenWilliams on June 03, 2020, 01:53:07 PM

Paradise & Thorns - Ashley Hutchings

I took delivery of this and some other Ashley related items a couple of days ago and am now giving them a listen but there does seem to be some of the usual Talking Elephant sleight of hand here with no source information given for the tracks. Some of them from this album and Gone Missing have definitely been released before, in particular on As You Like It and By Gloucester Docks Live and also I suspect late period Albions and Rainbow Chasers  albums (I haven't checked yet). It is really quite annoying. Paradise & Thorns in particular is promoted as a new work but is at least in part a compilation of old material. It is still an enjoyable listen of course but the disingenuousness is irritating.


I agree it is annoying, you do feel you're been sold a bit short. That said there's some good stuff on both but Paradise and Thorns doesn't have as much of a clear story arc as Gloucester Docks.

Previously my enjoyment of the Albions stopped at the 1990 line-up (yes, I like the Cathy Lesurf years too!). However I recently got Albion Heart on CD, and have been listening to Acousticity on Spotify and am enjoying both, but particularly Albion Heart. Demi Paradise is also on Spotify so I will give that a proper listen too (Albion Heart line-up + Chris Leslie). I think previously the idea of a completely acoustic Albion Band was just anathema to me, but perhaps as with Fairport you need to forget the label, dispel any preconceptions and just listen to the music.

Is anyone a fan of the Ken Nicol -era Albions? I have Happy Accident on CD but have only listened to it a couple of times and Road Movies does nothing for me.

I think my next stop for all things AH are the Grandson and Great-Grandson of Morris On albums.


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: wayne stote on June 03, 2020, 02:28:50 PM
Paradise & Thorns - Ashley Hutchings

I took delivery of this and some other Ashley related items a couple of days ago and am now giving them a listen but there does seem to be some of the usual Talking Elephant sleight of hand here with no source information given for the tracks. Some of them from this album and Gone Missing have definitely been released before, in particular on As You Like It and By Gloucester Docks Live and also I suspect late period Albions and Rainbow Chasers  albums (I haven't checked yet). It is really quite annoying. Paradise & Thorns in particular is promoted as a new work but is at least in part a compilation of old material. It is still an enjoyable listen of course but the disingenuousness is irritating.

I agree it is annoying, you do feel you're been sold a bit short. That said there's some good stuff on both but Paradise and Thorns doesn't have as much of a clear story arc as Gloucester Docks.

Previously my enjoyment of the Albions stopped at the 1990 line-up (yes, I like the Cathy Lesurf years too!). However I recently got Albion Heart on CD, and have been listening to Acousticity on Spotify and am enjoying both, but particularly Albion Heart. Demi Paradise is also on Spotify so I will give that a proper listen too (Albion Heart line-up + Chris Leslie). I think previously the idea of a completely acoustic Albion Band was just anathema to me, but perhaps as with Fairport you need to forget the label, dispel any preconceptions and just listen to the music.

Is anyone a fan of the Ken Nicol -era Albions? I have Happy Accident on CD but have only listened to it a couple of times and Road Movies does nothing for me.

I think my next stop for all things AH are the Grandson and Great-Grandson of Morris On albums.


I don't get on with Ken Nicol era Albion Band albums either but since I liked him with Steeleye, I've tended to lay the blame on Joe Broughton, whose playing style I've never liked and Kellie While, who, for whatever reason, didn't quite cut the mustard on them. Strangely enough, I've enjoyed a lot of her work since.

I'm sure you'll enjoy Grandson and Great Grandson but remember to check out The Mother of All Morris album too, if you haven't already done so. It's an excellent finale to the series.

Coincidentally, I've just been listening to Demi Paradise, which I found in a large box of cassettes that never made it out of the attic after a house move. You'll find plenty to enjoy if you like the other acoustic Albion records. Chris Leslie fits in very neatly.


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: GubGub (Al) on June 03, 2020, 02:34:40 PM


Paradise & Thorns - Ashley Hutchings

I took delivery of this and some other Ashley related items a couple of days ago and am now giving them a listen but there does seem to be some of the usual Talking Elephant sleight of hand here with no source information given for the tracks. Some of them from this album and Gone Missing have definitely been released before, in particular on As You Like It and By Gloucester Docks Live and also I suspect late period Albions and Rainbow Chasers  albums (I haven't checked yet). It is really quite annoying. Paradise & Thorns in particular is promoted as a new work but is at least in part a compilation of old material. It is still an enjoyable listen of course but the disingenuousness is irritating.


I agree it is annoying, you do feel you're been sold a bit short. That said there's some good stuff on both but Paradise and Thorns doesn't have as much of a clear story arc as Gloucester Docks.

Previously my enjoyment of the Albions stopped at the 1990 line-up (yes, I like the Cathy Lesurf years too!). However I recently got Albion Heart on CD, and have been listening to Acousticity on Spotify and am enjoying both, but particularly Albion Heart. Demi Paradise is also on Spotify so I will give that a proper listen too (Albion Heart line-up + Chris Leslie). I think previously the idea of a completely acoustic Albion Band was just anathema to me, but perhaps as with Fairport you need to forget the label, dispel any preconceptions and just listen to the music.

Is anyone a fan of the Ken Nicol -era Albions? I have Happy Accident on CD but have only listened to it a couple of times and Road Movies does nothing for me.

I think my next stop for all things AH are the Grandson and Great-Grandson of Morris On albums.



Road Movies
from 2001, the final Albions album that Ashley was a part of, is pretty good. It is an electric band featuring Ken Nicol, Joe Broughton, Kellie While and Neil Marshall


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: DarrenWilliams on June 03, 2020, 03:45:19 PM



Paradise & Thorns - Ashley Hutchings

I took delivery of this and some other Ashley related items a couple of days ago and am now giving them a listen but there does seem to be some of the usual Talking Elephant sleight of hand here with no source information given for the tracks. Some of them from this album and Gone Missing have definitely been released before, in particular on As You Like It and By Gloucester Docks Live and also I suspect late period Albions and Rainbow Chasers  albums (I haven't checked yet). It is really quite annoying. Paradise & Thorns in particular is promoted as a new work but is at least in part a compilation of old material. It is still an enjoyable listen of course but the disingenuousness is irritating.


I agree it is annoying, you do feel you're been sold a bit short. That said there's some good stuff on both but Paradise and Thorns doesn't have as much of a clear story arc as Gloucester Docks.

Previously my enjoyment of the Albions stopped at the 1990 line-up (yes, I like the Cathy Lesurf years too!). However I recently got Albion Heart on CD, and have been listening to Acousticity on Spotify and am enjoying both, but particularly Albion Heart. Demi Paradise is also on Spotify so I will give that a proper listen too (Albion Heart line-up + Chris Leslie). I think previously the idea of a completely acoustic Albion Band was just anathema to me, but perhaps as with Fairport you need to forget the label, dispel any preconceptions and just listen to the music.

Is anyone a fan of the Ken Nicol -era Albions? I have Happy Accident on CD but have only listened to it a couple of times and Road Movies does nothing for me.

I think my next stop for all things AH are the Grandson and Great-Grandson of Morris On albums.



I don't get on with Ken Nicol era Albion Band albums either but since I liked him with Steeleye, I've tended to lay the blame on Joe Broughton, whose playing style I've never liked and Kellie While, who, for whatever reason, didn't quite cut the mustard on them. Strangely enough, I've enjoyed a lot of her work since.

I'm sure you'll enjoy Grandson and Great Grandson but remember to check out The Mother of All Morris album too, if you haven't already done so. It's an excellent finale to the series.

Coincidentally, I've just been listening to Demi Paradise, which I found in a large box of cassettes that never made it out of the attic after a house move. You'll find plenty to enjoy if you like the other acoustic Albion records. Chris Leslie fits in very neatly.



Thanks Wayne - I assumed Mother Of All Morris was another compilation. I need to get Morris On The Road too - at least some of which was recorded at Cropredy 2004 (there aren't many live albums where I can say 'I Was There!' - but this is one)


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Will S on June 03, 2020, 05:33:15 PM
Yes, I'd made that assumption too.  Will have to have another look.

I have always liked the acoustic Albions - possibly because it is the only version the band I ever saw.  Not quite so keen on the Ken Nicol years, but there's
still enough on all the albums to keep me interested.


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: GubGub (Al) on June 03, 2020, 06:01:35 PM

Yes, I'd made that assumption too.  Will have to have another look.

I have always liked the acoustic Albions - possibly because it is the only version the band I ever saw.  Not quite so keen on the Ken Nicol years, but there's
still enough on all the albums to keep me interested.


I definitely prefer the Ken Nicol years to the Cathy LeSurf years and possibly to the acoustic albums though I am warming somewhat to the latter after getting more into While & Matthews via Daphne's Flight.


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: DarrenWilliams on June 03, 2020, 08:05:52 PM
I think pretty much everyone on here is probably a fan of the 70s and very early 80s 'trad' Albions - so everything up to and including Lark Rise. After that opinion is quite divided as evidenced by the last few posts. You could consider the post Lark Rise Albions as 3 or 4 quite distinct bands - LeSurf, 89/90, acoustic and Ken Nicol eras. Stating the obvious perhaps.


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: GubGub (Al) on June 03, 2020, 08:22:11 PM

I think pretty much everyone on here is probably a fan of the 70s and very early 80s 'trad' Albions - so everything up to and including Lark Rise. After that opinion is quite divided as evidenced by the last few posts. You could consider the post Lark Rise Albions as 3 or 4 quite distinct bands - LeSurf, 89/90, acoustic and Ken Nicol eras. Stating the obvious perhaps.


Yes I think that is broadly true, though there are exceptions of course. I Got New Shoes is a sort of transitional line up between the LeSurf and 89/90 eras. My favourite eras are 1973-80 and 1988-90.


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: wayne stote on June 03, 2020, 08:59:58 PM

I think pretty much everyone on here is probably a fan of the 70s and very early 80s 'trad' Albions - so everything up to and including Lark Rise. After that opinion is quite divided as evidenced by the last few posts. You could consider the post Lark Rise Albions as 3 or 4 quite distinct bands - LeSurf, 89/90, acoustic and Ken Nicol eras. Stating the obvious perhaps.


From those, I probably listen to 89/90 the most, indeed, Give Me A Saddle is probably my favoutie of their albums but I still really enjoy the Cathy and acoustic line-ups.

The glaring omissions in my collection are The Prospect Before Us and the wildlife album with Chris Baines.


Title: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Nick Reg on June 04, 2020, 11:27:08 AM
I think I can safely say that I like all the Albions albums, but the Phil Beer/ John Shepherd era stands out for me , particularly live. I saw them once with about 10 people in the audience and they played superbly.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: DarrenWilliams on June 04, 2020, 12:29:13 PM


I think pretty much everyone on here is probably a fan of the 70s and very early 80s 'trad' Albions - so everything up to and including Lark Rise. After that opinion is quite divided as evidenced by the last few posts. You could consider the post Lark Rise Albions as 3 or 4 quite distinct bands - LeSurf, 89/90, acoustic and Ken Nicol eras. Stating the obvious perhaps.


From those, I probably listen to 89/90 the most, indeed, Give Me A Saddle is probably my favoutie of their albums but I still really enjoy the Cathy and acoustic line-ups.

The glaring omissions in my collection are The Prospect Before Us and the wildlife album with Chris Baines.


I think Prospect is a must-have. Not sure about the Wild Side Of Town album - Chris Baines contributes some lyrics, and whilst worthy they are a bit preach-y.

(Thanks for starting the thread Al)


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: davidmjs on June 04, 2020, 12:33:24 PM



I think pretty much everyone on here is probably a fan of the 70s and very early 80s 'trad' Albions - so everything up to and including Lark Rise. After that opinion is quite divided as evidenced by the last few posts. You could consider the post Lark Rise Albions as 3 or 4 quite distinct bands - LeSurf, 89/90, acoustic and Ken Nicol eras. Stating the obvious perhaps.


From those, I probably listen to 89/90 the most, indeed, Give Me A Saddle is probably my favoutie of their albums but I still really enjoy the Cathy and acoustic line-ups.

The glaring omissions in my collection are The Prospect Before Us and the wildlife album with Chris Baines.


I think Prospect is a must-have. Not sure about the Wild Side Of Town album - Chris Baines contributes some lyrics, and whilst worthy they are a bit preach-y.

(Thanks for starting the thread Al)


That's beyond debate - along with RultS arguably the highlight of the whole thing.  Although if we're being absolutely pedantic it isn't actually by the Albion Band, it's by the Albion Dance Band... :-\


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: wayne stote on June 04, 2020, 02:28:16 PM
Many thanks, folks, for the recommendations for Prospect. Not sure why I've never taken the plunge. Need to remedy that, I reckon.

Speaking of the Albion Dance Band, this thread has inspired me to have a bit of an Albions binge. However, my tape of I Got New Shoes finally gave up the ghost this morning. Had a look on-line for a new copy but I could only find the revisited version. Does anyone know if this is the original album with a couple of bonus tracks or has it been remastered or messed about with in any way? Couldn't find any details on the web!






Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: DarrenWilliams on June 04, 2020, 02:45:45 PM

Many thanks, folks, for the recommendations for Prospect. Not sure why I've never taken the plunge. Need to remedy that, I reckon.

Speaking of the Albion Dance Band, this thread has inspired me to have a bit of an Albions binge. However, my tape of I Got New Shoes finally gave up the ghost this morning. Had a look on-line for a new copy but I could only find the revisited version. Does anyone know if this is the original album with a couple of bonus tracks or has it been remastered or messed about with in any way? Couldn't find any details on the web!







Looks like its just a couple of bonus tracks:

https://mainlynorfolk.info/guvnor/records/igotnewshoes.html#igotnewshoes


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: wayne stote on June 04, 2020, 03:09:20 PM


Many thanks, folks, for the recommendations for Prospect. Not sure why I've never taken the plunge. Need to remedy that, I reckon.

Speaking of the Albion Dance Band, this thread has inspired me to have a bit of an Albions binge. However, my tape of I Got New Shoes finally gave up the ghost this morning. Had a look on-line for a new copy but I could only find the revisited version. Does anyone know if this is the original album with a couple of bonus tracks or has it been remastered or messed about with in any way? Couldn't find any details on the web!







Looks like its just a couple of bonus tracks:

https://mainlynorfolk.info/guvnor/records/igotnewshoes.html#igotnewshoes


That's great, thanks!

Always thought it was a fine sounding album so I'm glad it hasn't had a dreaded remix.  :)


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: GubGub (Al) on June 04, 2020, 03:19:09 PM


That's beyond debate - along with RultS arguably the highlight of the whole thing.  Although if we're being absolutely pedantic it isn't actually by the Albion Band, it's by the Albion Dance Band... :-\


I think of that original run, Battle of the Field is the other masterpiece for me. I would put it above Prospect.

I can't take any credit for starting the thread by the way. I was just commenting in Listening To. Somebody else has hived it off into its own thing but thanks to whoever did that.

Somewhere in the archive is a very long thread about Albions recommendations which I did start when I was first getting into them a decade ago or so. Well worth a read if it is still available and it was hugely valuable to me on my voyage of Albion discovery.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: davidmjs on June 04, 2020, 03:40:10 PM



That's beyond debate - along with RultS arguably the highlight of the whole thing.  Although if we're being absolutely pedantic it isn't actually by the Albion Band, it's by the Albion Dance Band... :-\


I think of that original run, Battle of the Field is the other masterpiece for me. I would put it above Prospect.

I can't take any credit for starting the thread by the way. I was just commenting in Listening To. Somebody else has hived it off into its own thing but thanks to whoever did that.

Somewhere in the archive is a very long thread about Albions recommendations which I did start when I was first getting into them a decade ago or so. Well worth a read if it is still available and it was hugely valuable to me on my voyage of Albion discovery.


Awesome...but that's the ACB!


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: DarrenWilliams on June 04, 2020, 03:44:35 PM




That's beyond debate - along with RultS arguably the highlight of the whole thing.  Although if we're being absolutely pedantic it isn't actually by the Albion Band, it's by the Albion Dance Band... :-\


I think of that original run, Battle of the Field is the other masterpiece for me. I would put it above Prospect.

I can't take any credit for starting the thread by the way. I was just commenting in Listening To. Somebody else has hived it off into its own thing but thanks to whoever did that.

Somewhere in the archive is a very long thread about Albions recommendations which I did start when I was first getting into them a decade ago or so. Well worth a read if it is still available and it was hugely valuable to me on my voyage of Albion discovery.


Awesome...but that's the ACB!


The Albion [insert/delete as appropriate] Band


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: GubGub (Al) on June 04, 2020, 05:13:50 PM




That's beyond debate - along with RultS arguably the highlight of the whole thing.  Although if we're being absolutely pedantic it isn't actually by the Albion Band, it's by the Albion Dance Band... :-\


I think of that original run, Battle of the Field is the other masterpiece for me. I would put it above Prospect.

I can't take any credit for starting the thread by the way. I was just commenting in Listening To. Somebody else has hived it off into its own thing but thanks to whoever did that.

Somewhere in the archive is a very long thread about Albions recommendations which I did start when I was first getting into them a decade ago or so. Well worth a read if it is still available and it was hugely valuable to me on my voyage of Albion discovery.


Awesome...but that's the ACB!


I don't distinguish. ICB, ADB, AB, they are all iterations of the Albion Band.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: RobertD on June 04, 2020, 05:46:40 PM





That's beyond debate - along with RultS arguably the highlight of the whole thing.  Although if we're being absolutely pedantic it isn't actually by the Albion Band, it's by the Albion Dance Band... :-\


I think of that original run, Battle of the Field is the other masterpiece for me. I would put it above Prospect.

I can't take any credit for starting the thread by the way. I was just commenting in Listening To. Somebody else has hived it off into its own thing but thanks to whoever did that.

Somewhere in the archive is a very long thread about Albions recommendations which I did start when I was first getting into them a decade ago or so. Well worth a read if it is still available and it was hugely valuable to me on my voyage of Albion discovery.


Awesome...but that's the ACB!


I don't distinguish. ICB, ADB, AB, they are all iterations of the Albion Band.


Same-I don't distinguish either and long ago changed artist name in Itunes to a generic The Albion Band, and Ashley Hutchings instead of all the versions and one offs (in the case of Ashley). Much easier to sort through them that way. In my head I know the differences. As to the catalog, I think I also agree with Al on my favorite eras. I think the difference in experience with Battle Of The Field versus 'Prospect' is in the size of the band. Battle feels more like a cohesive unit versus the huge group that played on Prospect. Personally I liked the acoustic albums and though I like the songs on Albion Heart a lot, I felt they were missing a 'folk' instrument such as either a fiddle or accordion as Acousticity and Demi Paradise both had. Not a fan of much of the Lesurf stuff, though there are a few moments such as The Rose & The Rock that I enjoy. Funnily enough I just played The Wild Side Of Town the other day. I think the entire album had good intentions but does come off rather preachy. I love Ken Nicol's guitar playing but his voice, not so much so the albums he was a part of don't hold too much interest. If I had to pick one though it would be Road Movies. Finally let me just say that it was a shame that the songs that made their way to Captured with Julie Matthews in a more 'electric' setting are fabulous. What a shame this band never really 'was' because I think they had something.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: davidmjs on June 04, 2020, 06:07:39 PM

I don't distinguish. ICB, ADB, AB, they are all iterations of the Albion Band.


It's this kind of liberal wishy washiness with the truth that has got us into this bloody mess....  ;) ;D


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: GubGub (Al) on June 04, 2020, 06:27:02 PM


I don't distinguish. ICB, ADB, AB, they are all iterations of the Albion Band.


It's this kind of liberal wishy washiness with the truth that has got us into this bloody mess....  ;) ;D


Wishy washy? Namby pamby maybe but wishy washy?  ;)


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Jim on June 04, 2020, 07:23:53 PM


I think my next stop for all things AH are the Grandson and Great-Grandson of Morris On albums.



Having loved MO and Son of, i was quite excited about Grandson but found it flat and uninspiring after its Dad and granda
I had hoped great grandson would be a return to the family values but i thought it had inherited its pappy's failings and some more.
Its been some years since i listened to them and might give them a quick spin to confirm or otherwise my thoughts on them.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: StephenGiles on June 05, 2020, 06:03:23 PM
You might find this interesting
http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/AlbionBand1978-04-28LondonUK.asx

London being the Cottesloe Theatre!!!


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: wayne stote on June 05, 2020, 09:50:55 PM



I think my next stop for all things AH are the Grandson and Great-Grandson of Morris On albums.



Having loved MO and Son of, i was quite excited about Grandson but found it flat and uninspiring after its Dad and granda
I had hoped great grandson would be a return to the family values but i thought it had inherited its pappy's failings and some more.
Its been some years since i listened to them and might give them a quick spin to confirm or otherwise my thoughts on them.


I thought they were a really decent stab at updating the concept. Different strokes and all that.  :)


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: DarrenWilliams on June 12, 2020, 11:55:19 AM
I haven't got round to Grandson or Great-Grandson yet - both are on Spotify so I'll take a listen there. I did however order Morris On The Road and the Magic of Morris from Talking Elephant. I've just had an email saying that the Magic of Morris is out of stock (again, its on Spotify) and a refund has been given, but they are sending me a signed copy of Morris On The Road and a free signed copy of the Wings single. TE have their detractors on here, but their customer service has been excellent.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Brian Green on June 12, 2020, 01:09:52 PM
I brought a number of CDs from the recent Talking Elephant Ashley Hutchings sale.
I found the service to be excellent.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: GubGub (Al) on June 12, 2020, 01:25:49 PM

I brought a number of CDs from the recent Talking Elephant Ashley Hutchings sale.
I found the service to be excellent.

 
The service is good and they are nice fellas. It is just that some of their releases border on fraudulent. Vintage Albions On The Road Vol 2 for example is more or less a reissue of the BBC Sessions album but does not acknowledge the fact and indeed was not therefore recorded on the road. Gone Missing is largely sourced from As You Like It, By Gloucester Docks Live and I Got New Shoes but once again does not acknowledge the fact. Unfortunately Ashley hhas been complicit in these releases which leaves a bad taste for fans who end up buying material they already have because of the lack of transparency.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Will S on June 12, 2020, 03:53:20 PM
I gave in and bought The Mother of all Morris and the Guvnor's 50th Birthday Bash today.

I do wish they'd learn from their errors on the album information though - they've been doing it so long, they must have heard us complaining!


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Poor Will (Bill) on June 12, 2020, 05:44:13 PM
I have been trying to find out whether the TV series “Ridge Riders” is available in any format but I have drawn a blank.
It was broadcast by Meridian TV in the south during the late 1990s.
It was presented by Nick Knowles and covered a motorcycle tour of the Ridgeway. Each episode featured a song by the Albion Band.
I have found that there is an album of the music, but very little information about the TV programme.
I’m beginning to think I imagined it, as there isn’t even an entry on IMDB!
Anyone else remember it?


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: davidmjs on June 12, 2020, 06:01:36 PM

I have been trying to find out whether the TV series “Ridge Riders” is available in any format but I have drawn a blank.
It was broadcast by Meridian TV in the south during the late 1990s.
It was presented by Nick Knowles and covered a motorcycle tour of the Ridgeway. Each episode featured a song by the Albion Band.
I have found that there is an album of the music, but very little information about the TV programme.
I’m beginning to think I imagined it, as there isn’t even an entry on IMDB!
Anyone else remember it?



There's clips on Youtube, so you didn't imagine it..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKldokD7nY0


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Nick Reg on June 12, 2020, 06:21:37 PM

I have been trying to find out whether the TV series “Ridge Riders” is available in any format but I have drawn a blank.
It was broadcast by Meridian TV in the south during the late 1990s.
It was presented by Nick Knowles and covered a motorcycle tour of the Ridgeway. Each episode featured a song by the Albion Band.
I have found that there is an album of the music, but very little information about the TV programme.
I’m beginning to think I imagined it, as there isn’t even an entry on IMDB!
Anyone else remember it?



The album is actually by The Ridgeriders (who are Ashley, Chris While and Phil Beer) with The Albion Band and Julie Matthews . The other Albions on the album are Joe Broughton, Neil Marshall, Ken Nicol and Simon Nicol. I bought the album at a RR trio gig.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Nick Reg on June 12, 2020, 06:24:26 PM
Chris and Julies' Parties on the Lawn were of course on the Ridgeway.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Poor Will (Bill) on June 12, 2020, 06:29:19 PM
Thanks for the info!


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: wayne stote on June 12, 2020, 07:16:00 PM
Talking Elephant have a "best of" the Ridgeriders CD available, which - I'm assuming - is a combination of a studio album and live set. Regardless, it's twenty seven songs long and highly enjoyable.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Will S on June 13, 2020, 12:24:45 PM
Yes, there were originally two albums - the first a compilation of songs used in the series, and the second a live one, which have now been combined into the compilation.  I never saw the series, but when I first got the cd of the songs I loved it from the first time I heard it and played it over and over.

I never saw them doing it live - I once had tickets to a concert, and then had to make a work trip so gave the tickets to a friend.


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: davidmjs on November 23, 2021, 07:13:14 PM
Here's something you almost certainly never knew you actually wanted to hear...a 2021 version of (Love is Like a) Railway Station by the mighty Owl Service featuring Alison (Mellow Candle) O'Donnell.  Better than the original say I (whilst still not being totally on board...)  :)

https://theowlservice.bandcamp.com/album/love-is-like-a-railway-station?fbclid=IwAR2WKe_yNaix5SREf-HD8axvgpu8MUyVC00b5lMjW4dy7qCCIcpOHnS3q50



Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: Will S on November 24, 2021, 09:46:52 AM
Not quite convinced by the Owl Service version - I actually quite like the Albions one.  Though I am traumatised all over again by watching them miming to it on the youtube link (I think I saw the clip once before but had managed to to erase it from my memory!).


Title: Re: Albion Band Chatter
Post by: davidmjs on November 24, 2021, 04:02:37 PM

Not quite convinced by the Owl Service version - I actually quite like the Albions one.  Though I am traumatised all over again by watching them miming to it on the youtube link (I think I saw the clip once before but had managed to to erase it from my memory!).


It's, er, interesting, isn't it?   ;) ;D