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Music In General => Musician Talk => Topic started by: Barzaz on July 03, 2019, 02:57:59 PM

Title: The Bonzo Dog Doodah Band
Post by: Barzaz on July 03, 2019, 02:57:59 PM
Dear All, please see the link below. Some *%&$  back in 2016 trademarked the name of the Bonzos potentially preventing them for ever recording or playing live under their own name again. This is a gross injustice. If you want to help the Bonzos fighting fund please follow the link to their crowd funding legal war chest site.

Title: Re: The Bonzo Dog Doodah Band
Post by: GubGub (Al) on July 03, 2019, 03:41:26 PM
Neil Innes has not had a lot of luck lately has he? What with Pledge Music going down the pan, in all likelihood taking his new album and lots of his fans' money (including mine) with it.

Title: Re: The Bonzo Dog Doodah Band
Post by: mightyglydd on July 04, 2019, 02:54:30 AM
Hmm, who is the 'entity', probably right in front of my nose but I don't see a name, nor for the Trademark Owner ?

@Viv's name doesn't appear on that link page; odd.

Title: Re: The Bonzo Dog Doodah Band
Post by: Martin F on July 04, 2019, 05:19:20 PM

Hmm, who is the 'entity', probably right in front of my nose but I don't see a name, nor for the Trademark Owner ?

@Viv's name doesn't appear on that link page; odd.

Title: Re: The Bonzo Dog Doodah Band
Post by: davidmjs on April 10, 2020, 06:13:34 PM
They've won the case.  From Facebook:

Dear Bonzo Fans

It has been a long road but finally The Bonzo Dog Doo-Dah Band have successfully defeated abusive writs issued against them by Anglo Atlantic Media Ltd and Director Robert Kirk Carruthers. The victory follows the band’s success in October of 2019 when the Intellectual Property Office ruled that Anglo Atlantic Media Ltd, with Carruthers’ assistance, had registered the band’s name unlawfully.

The victory, which band members Neil Innes and Martin ‘Sam Spoons’ Ash sadly did not live to see, is also a posthumous victory for founder Bonzo Vivian Stanshall, who passed away in 1995.

Deputy High Court Judge Briggs dismantled the hundreds of pages of irrelevant prolix that Carruthers submitted to the court to substantiate his claim that the band and others had unlawfully conspired to publish malicious falsehoods, misrepresent their right to the name and infringe his trademark. Anglo and Carruthers writs amounted to an attempt to block witnesses statements that had been made as part of the IPO proceedings. In summing up Judge Briggs described the claims as “totally without merit”.

Two writs were pursued against surviving band members Rodney Slater, Roger Ruskin-Spear, “Legs” Larry Smith and Vernon Dudley Bowhay-Nowell. Additionally, the widows of Sam Spoons and Neil Innes and two of the witnesses who gave evidence to the Intellectual Property Office during the Trademark hearing, Richard Allen and Michael Livesley. Neither Mr Livesley or Mr Allen had any stake in the bands name, yet were subjected to the abusive litigation for a period of over two years.

It was only thanks to the assistance of Solicitors Michael Shepherd and Camilla Cokell of Trainer Shepherd Phillips Melins Hayes LLP and the overwhelming generosity of fans who gave money to a crowdfunding campaign that the band were able to see the case to its conclusion.

Judge Briggs noted that Carruthers claims not only sought “to make a collateral attack " on a decision made by the Intellectual Property Office but that they also amounted to “an abuse of process” whilst the claim served against the bands witnesses was an affront to the concept of legal privilege which witnesses enjoy.

Citing completely unreasonable behaviour by Carruthers that went “far beyond the norm” Judge Briggs also awarded indemnity costs in excess of £50K to the band on a summary basis. He will hear a further application to have the costs charged directly to Carruthers in two weeks.

The Judgment was handed own verbally on the 8th of April 2020 but as soon as we have a copy we can publish it will be made available.

“Legs” Larry Smith of the Band noted “the band has suffered monstrous threats, lies and claims that should never have been issued and then allowed to be processed in the first place” whilst Rodney Slater wryly reflected “Victorious and worse off I carry nothing but the scars of two years of tactical, vexatious litigation from legitimately defending what was mine. Don’t try this at home until the law is reformed “. Roger Ruskin Spear added “daft I call it”.

Richard Allen one of the bands witnesses observed “Finding yourself being sued for fabricated nonsense by someone you have never met or spoken to is incredible enough but I find it even more startling that the claims being made against me were based entirely on my witness statement for an IPO hearing. This is a case where someone weaponised the legal system to intimidate a witness with impunity. Nobody protected me and that cannot be right. I am hoping this is now taken further by the authorities”

Michael Livesley added "I'm glad it's finally all over. This victory is for Neil, Sam and Viv."

The band with the assistance of Kerry McCarthy MP and The Musicians Union now intend to assist the IPO and Parliament in closing a loophole that allows anyone to appropriate a bands name by paying a £200 fee without having to provide adequate proof of ownership. Similarly, they wish to pursue the issues raised by an attempt to sue witnesses - behaviour that could potentially amount to witness intimidation - and ensure that there are safeguards for witnesses in the future so that anyone providing a witnesses statement does not find themselves in court faced with enormous legal costs.

Thank you again courts fans and we hope to see you in December.

Please also look out for exciting news of an enormous box set filled with unseen footage, live recordings, demos, outtakes and all of the bands albums and singles in mono and stereo. It will also be packed with reproductions of memorabilia and a hard back book. All material is officially licenced from the rights owners with audio taken from from the master tapes. It will be out some time in 2021 and promises to be the final word on the band.

Much Love

The Bonzos

Title: Re: The Bonzo Dog Doodah Band
Post by: bassline (Mike) on April 10, 2020, 07:28:33 PM
Justice has been served, common sense has prevailed.

Title: Re: The Bonzo Dog Doodah Band
Post by: quodlibet (Ian) on April 10, 2020, 08:24:19 PM
Yay!  ;D

Title: Re: The Bonzo Dog Doodah Band
Post by: David (terrrrrrrr) on April 10, 2020, 08:26:15 PM
YES, upper case !!!!