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Title: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Phil Perry on April 17, 2019, 05:01:13 PM
I thought it might be a nice idea to have a thread about folk-rock bands that have emerged in this decade playing largely traditional material. There are (at least) three angles to this. 1) It would be good to build up a list, which I'll start off with Blackbeard's Tea Party, False Lights, Sam Kelly & the Lost Boys and the Joshua Burnell Band. 2) Which of these, in the view of TalkAwhilers have the most merit? 3) Is this the best era we've had since the great days of the late 60s / early 70s ?


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Andy Tuck on April 17, 2019, 06:21:13 PM
I think even defining what folk rock is anymore is dificult, there are so many sub genres. I love the folk metal scene and the pysch folk bands. There are many excellent new bands playing both, of course with even more prog folk bands now appearing.

This is one of my favourite local bands, The Whiskey Rebellion (see link below), but is this folk rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aocSUYdmJeE


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: hendo (Dave) on April 17, 2019, 07:47:22 PM

I think even defining what folk rock is anymore is dificult, there are so many sub genres. I love the folk metal scene and the pysch folk bands. There are many excellent new bands playing both, of course with even more prog folk bands now appearing.

This is one of my favourite local bands, The Whiskey Rebellion (see link below), but is this folk rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aocSUYdmJeE

Prog Folk sounds like the ultimate tautology😂


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: hendo (Dave) on April 17, 2019, 07:51:18 PM

I think even defining what folk rock is anymore is dificult, there are so many sub genres. I love the folk metal scene and the pysch folk bands. There are many excellent new bands playing both, of course with even more prog folk bands now appearing.

This is one of my favourite local bands, The Whiskey Rebellion (see link below), but is this folk rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aocSUYdmJeE

Completely depends on the definition of Folk and WE WILL NOT.....go there😱😱😱😱
Balkan I Folk influences but then you could argue that trad Irish now has Balkan influences ever since Andy Irvine and Donal Lenny introduced Bulgarian Bozoukis in to Irish music.......
.and so it goes on...day after day.......slime in this ear......slime in the other ear...l


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: RobertD on April 17, 2019, 09:26:10 PM


I think even defining what folk rock is anymore is dificult, there are so many sub genres. I love the folk metal scene and the pysch folk bands. There are many excellent new bands playing both, of course with even more prog folk bands now appearing.

This is one of my favourite local bands, The Whiskey Rebellion (see link below), but is this folk rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aocSUYdmJeE

Completely depends on the definition of Folk and WE WILL NOT.....go there😱😱😱😱
Balkan I Folk influences but then you could argue that trad Irish now has Balkan influences ever since Andy Irvine and Donal Lenny introduced Bulgarian Bozoukis in to Irish music.......
.and so it goes on...day after day.......slime in this ear......slime in the other ear...l


Except Andy Irvine typically played the mandolin in group settings. It was Johnny Moynihan who is largely credited as bringing the bouzouki in and not Donal Lunny.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: John From Austin on April 17, 2019, 09:28:54 PM
My favorite "folk-rock" bands of recent vintage are roots-oriented performers who mix original and traditional music, usually leaning more heavily on originals.

Not incredibly recent, but Los Lobos and Glen Hansard fit this description, albeit coming from different folk traditions.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: hendo (Dave) on April 18, 2019, 07:09:20 AM



I think even defining what folk rock is anymore is dificult, there are so many sub genres. I love the folk metal scene and the pysch folk bands. There are many excellent new bands playing both, of course with even more prog folk bands now appearing.

This is one of my favourite local bands, The Whiskey Rebellion (see link below), but is this folk rock?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aocSUYdmJeE

Completely depends on the definition of Folk and WE WILL NOT.....go there😱😱😱😱
Balkan I Folk influences but then you could argue that trad Irish now has Balkan influences ever since Andy Irvine and Donal Lenny introduced Bulgarian Bozoukis in to Irish music.......
.and so it goes on...day after day.......slime in this ear......slime in the other ear...l


Except Andy Irvine typically played the mandolin in group settings. It was Johnny Moynihan who is largely credited as bringing the bouzouki in and not Donal Lunny.

It is one of those urban myths we will never unravel. Irvine always says he was the first to bring a Bozouki back......
I play in aband and !on some songs, ian plays an Irish Bozouki, i.e the tuning is different to a Balkans Bozouki. Bob occasionally plays a guitar Bozouki......8 strings and a different beast all together....


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: hendo (Dave) on April 18, 2019, 07:31:27 AM
....and current folk rock bands I am fond of...
Blackbeard’s Tea Party
The Willows
Phantom Voices
Jon Palmer Acoustic Band


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: StephenB on April 18, 2019, 08:41:27 AM
Yes it was Johnny Moynihan who brought the bouzouki back but it was undoubtedly Donal Lunny who popularised it . It was the soud of this intertwined with Andy Irvine's mandolin that really heralded a crisp new rhyhmic sound that was to transform the sound of Irish (and possibly British)
trad music for ever. Still not folk rock, but IMO equally if not more significant at the time. I think Irvine's Balkan influences are a sideline to this (al IMHO of course).

Re folk rock today, let's not forget Trad Arrr...


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: mikec on April 18, 2019, 09:01:09 AM


Re folk rock today, let's not forget Trad Arrr...


Or the mighty Bellowhead (yes they are no more but they were playing in this decade and have been an influence to many)
or Merry Hell
or Skerryvore
or Katzenjammer
or.................


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Shane (Skirky) on April 18, 2019, 09:56:17 AM

It is one of those urban myths we will never unravel. Irvine always says he was the first to bring a Bozouki back......
I play in aband and !on some songs, ian plays an Irish Bozouki, i.e the tuning is different to a Balkans Bozouki. Bob occasionally plays a guitar Bozouki......8 strings and a different beast all together....


My favourite urban myth is that the bouzouki became popularised when low-cost, no frills airlines started flying to mediterranean island holiday destinations. Hence the folk-rock tetrachord is overwhelmingly due to the business canny of Freddie Laker.  ;D


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Will S on April 18, 2019, 11:47:16 AM
Blackbeard's, False Lights, TradArrr and Sam Kelly & the Lost Boys are all favourites with me.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Albie on April 18, 2019, 02:53:44 PM
I like Mad Dog McRea a lot, live they are fantastic.
I'm not sure when these bands formed but I like Skippinish, and Skerryvore, and Galleon Blast are good and very funny.
And the late Leatherat of course, who were spiffing.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: garrypbrooks on April 18, 2019, 06:54:42 PM
I saw Green Diesel last year, they were excellent.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: PaulT on April 18, 2019, 07:04:52 PM
Niteworks, the Rails, Altar Native...


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Brendan on April 18, 2019, 11:00:34 PM
False Lights, offa Rex and a rejuvenated Steeleye Span are some of the best recent folk rock bands, Eliza Carthys wayward band all remind me how great folk rock can be. Yes there are often nods to the great bands of the sixties and seventies, but with music Harking back to before any of us can remember it's part of what makes it great


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Bob Barrows on April 19, 2019, 12:08:39 AM
Don't forget the Decemberists


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Andy on April 19, 2019, 02:13:01 AM

Don't forget the Decemberists
Indeed. A brilliant band.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Jules Gray on April 19, 2019, 11:20:11 AM
I was going to mention The Decemberists but was worried that I might be laughed at for suggesting that they were still "recent".

Jules


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: mightyglydd on April 19, 2019, 03:35:14 PM
Of Monsters and Men
@The Decemberists +3


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Bob Barrows on April 20, 2019, 01:52:27 PM
Lehto and Wright are still current - a new album is being recorded.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Phil Perry on April 20, 2019, 05:19:17 PM
Thanks all, only heard of about half of those, so plenty to investigate. And what about my third question - is this another "golden age" of the genre, at least in comparison to the 80's-early '00s. (And I'm talking mainly about English here, because for Celtic the 80's was a golden age, with Runrig, Clannad, Capercaillie etc being at their best.)


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: hendo (Dave) on April 21, 2019, 11:18:00 AM

Thanks all, only heard of about half of those, so plenty to investigate. And what about my third question - is this another "golden age" of the genre, at least in comparison to the 80's-early '00s. (And I'm talking mainly about English here, because for Celtic the 80's was a golden age, with Runrig, Clannad, Capercaillie etc being at their best.)

Phil , I love crossover bands , Afro Celts, Peatbog Faeries , Jim Moray etc etc and Thrash Folk Bands like Eluvetitia , so genres become very blurred .....and it doesn’t matter .Music is just music


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: hendo (Dave) on April 21, 2019, 12:20:09 PM
Phil, hardly a golden age I think when so many music venues are closing.
People are used to ‘ free’ music in pubs,  so paying 5/10/12 pounds to see someone you don’t know becomes rarer.
There is some wonderful songwriting out there at present, most unnoticed by media / radio.
If it is a golden age then it is that vaguely underground scene of bands / artists surviving by having other income streams(!) and being cottage industries. 3 Daft Monkeys, Ange Hardy, Lucy Ward, Darlingside, Trials of Cato, Banter, Willows, John Palmer Acoustic Band, Merry Hell, Phantom Voices , Chaplin Wickwar, Luke Jackson, ....I could go on....


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Phil Perry on April 21, 2019, 05:32:23 PM
Sorry, as a civil servant I can't help categorising - it just comes naturally  :) ….. but, yes, certainly if it is a golden age, that would only be for us enthusiasts in the know and not for the poor musicians & venue promoters trying to make a living. A golden age for festivals perhaps ...


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: paul bond 59 on May 28, 2019, 10:19:50 AM
I can thoroughly recommend Crooked Weather, both studio & live.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: garrypbrooks on May 28, 2019, 11:40:00 AM
Has anyone else see The Noble Jacks? These guys know how to rock a joint.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Albie on May 28, 2019, 01:56:40 PM

Has anyone else see The Noble Jacks? These guys know how to rock a joint.


I have, 2 or 3 years ago. Quite good fun.


Title: Re: "Recent" folk-rock bands
Post by: Jim G on May 28, 2019, 05:05:53 PM
I am immensely fond of The Leylines - although they describe  themselves as "Not quite folk" , I certainly put them in the same category as folk rock, fiddle driven great energy  - however  they play only their original songs and don't  electrify-up old folk songs like Steeleye Span or Bellowhead etc do.  Their new 2nd album Recover Reveal  is a cracker