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Title: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Gareth (GWR71) on July 29, 2018, 01:08:13 AM
I'm going to RT's Southend gig in October. When I booked, which was about a month after the tickets went on sale, there was still huge availability.

Earlier this evening I thought I'd look again, and the situation has barely changed. Without a major push, RT will be playing to a Cliffs Pavilion that isn't even half full. The central stalls are 90% sold, but everything else is just a sea of available seats.

Is this down to promoters booking him into too large a venue, or asking too much for tickets (top price 39), or a combination of both?


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Nick Reg on July 29, 2018, 10:04:07 AM
That's very expensive. He's playing locally for the first time ever on this tour but as I will be seeing him at Shrewsbury , I'm opting to see Baskery at the local folk club. Never thought I'd miss that chance!


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: JJ (Joanna) on July 29, 2018, 08:45:17 PM

I'm going to RT's Southend gig in October. When I booked, which was about a month after the tickets went on sale, there was still huge availability.

Earlier this evening I thought I'd look again, and the situation has barely changed. Without a major push, RT will be playing to a Cliffs Pavilion that isn't even half full. The central stalls are 90% sold, but everything else is just a sea of available seats.

Is this down to promoters booking him into too large a venue, or asking too much for tickets (top price 39), or a combination of both?


or.....people from Southend and surrounding towns have never heard of him?!  :D

Ticket prices are a bit steep I must admit, but that's Thompson prices!!

I'll be there!!  ;)


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: davidmjs on July 29, 2018, 09:12:33 PM


I'm going to RT's Southend gig in October. When I booked, which was about a month after the tickets went on sale, there was still huge availability.

Earlier this evening I thought I'd look again, and the situation has barely changed. Without a major push, RT will be playing to a Cliffs Pavilion that isn't even half full. The central stalls are 90% sold, but everything else is just a sea of available seats.

Is this down to promoters booking him into too large a venue, or asking too much for tickets (top price 39), or a combination of both?


or.....people from Southend and surrounding towns have never heard of him?! :D

Ticket prices are a bit steep I must admit, but that's Thompson prices!!

I'll be there!! ;)


Thompson prices have effectively doubled in about 3 or 4 years.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Jules Gray on July 30, 2018, 12:38:36 AM

Thompson prices have effectively doubled in about 3 or 4 years.


Must be feeling the pinch.

Jules


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Dan O. on July 30, 2018, 08:09:28 AM
Didn't RT a while ago say words to the effect of "When I'm 70 I'll be classified as a living legend and I can double my fee" ?

He's 69 now, so a bit premature, but...


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Jules Gray on July 30, 2018, 11:29:33 AM

Didn't RT a while ago say words to the effect of "When I'm 70 I'll be classified as a living legend and I can double my fee" ?

He's 69 now, so a bit premature, but...


He's clearly started thinking about his pension.

Jules


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Penguin (Dunc) on July 30, 2018, 05:06:29 PM
Just had a look at the Opera House in Manchester and whilst the stalls are selling reasonably well, there are hardly any tickets sold in the circle or gallery.

I'll be honest I'm not a fan of the Opera House and then 40+ for tickets the Sunday of the Manchester Folk Festival kind of made the decision for me - For the first time in ages I won't be seeing RT on a UK tour.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: blagden on July 30, 2018, 05:43:55 PM

Just had a look at the Opera House in Manchester and whilst the stalls are selling reasonably well, there are hardly any tickets sold in the circle or gallery.

I'll be honest I'm not a fan of the Opera House and then 40+ for tickets the Sunday of the Manchester Folk Festival kind of made the decision for me - For the first time in ages I won't be seeing RT on a UK tour.


20 is plenty, 40 is not - not bothered this year.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: John From Austin on August 01, 2018, 10:24:25 PM
Over five years gone since RT played in my town, after years of regular visits.  :(

Someone said he has a new U.S. promoter, who's been getting him lucrative opening slots with Bonnie Raitt and Jason Isbell in lieu of headlining tours.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: sirspens (John) on August 08, 2018, 11:25:56 PM
Weeelllll..... i feel that tonight I just got great value from RT with his band for my 32.50, to see him outdoors at Gawsworth Hall- brilliant show,brilliant location,a real gem--- those prices pale into insignificance beside the prices for "big" acts with a fraction of the talent..........................


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Gareth (GWR71) on August 09, 2018, 02:06:31 PM

those prices pale into insignificance beside the prices for "big" acts with a fraction of the talent

But with so many tickets left unsold in more than one venue, someone somewhere has miscalculated either the size of the venues or the price of the tickets or both.

I remember when Roger Waters toured the UK in 2003, for the first time since 1987 (I think), I paid under 40 to sit in the centre of the third row at a packed Wembley Arena.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: davidmjs on August 09, 2018, 05:31:55 PM


those prices pale into insignificance beside the prices for "big" acts with a fraction of the talent

But with so many tickets left unsold in more than one venue, someone somewhere has miscalculated either the size of the venues or the price of the tickets or both.

I remember when Roger Waters toured the UK in 2003, for the first time since 1987 (I think), I paid under 40 to sit in the centre of the third row at a packed Wembley Arena.


It's easy to forget inflation, even in a relatively stable economic era (cough).  40 in 2003 is 61.42 now.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: ColinB on August 09, 2018, 05:46:50 PM
A friend of mine isn't complaining...

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Great concert from Richard Thompson at Gawsworth Hall last night . . . then managed to speak to him at breakfast this morning. Amazing, he was staying at the same country inn near the venue. One very large tick off my bucket list!






Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Henry Tompkins (Pete) on August 10, 2018, 07:39:45 AM

A friend of mine isn't complaining...

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Great concert from Richard Thompson at Gawsworth Hall last night . . . then managed to speak to him at breakfast this morning. Amazing, he was staying at the same country inn near the venue. One very large tick off my bucket list!








Was your friend charged for the conversation?   ;D


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Chris on August 10, 2018, 12:19:34 PM
I have a ticket for Southend too. His US management seem to think that the price in $ over there equates to prices here....


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: davidmjs on August 12, 2018, 03:32:50 PM
Review of RT @ Gawsworth in today's Observer https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/aug/12/richard-thompson-review-gawsworth-hall-macclesfield



Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Chris on August 12, 2018, 05:52:10 PM
Really looking forward now....great set it seems


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Gareth (GWR71) on September 13, 2018, 12:29:35 AM
And with a bit over a month to go, the ticket situation hasn't changed. The Cliffs Pavilion isn't even going to be half full, unless there's a massive push on local radio etc very soon.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Bob Barrows on September 13, 2018, 12:32:38 AM
I just saw the video from SFF and he closed with a cover of The Sorrows' "Take A Heart" and it was pure magic.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: David Bean on September 13, 2018, 08:27:41 PM

And with a bit over a month to go, the ticket situation hasn't changed. The Cliffs Pavilion isn't even going to be half full, unless there's a massive push on local radio etc very soon.

Birmingham Town Hall almost sold out.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Gareth (GWR71) on September 17, 2018, 09:07:06 AM
Still huge numbers of empty seats at the Cliffs.


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: arie on September 20, 2018, 11:56:55 AM
Taken the plunge (well, it will be a boat)
Family holiday for a week, which allows me to go to the York and Hull concerts
See you there?!?


Title: Re: Have RT's UK promoters overestimated?
Post by: Chris on September 20, 2018, 12:44:07 PM
Not two I can get to unfortunately