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Title: Show of Hands
Post by: YaBB Master (Colin) on August 01, 2017, 11:16:11 PM
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Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Nick Peake on August 07, 2017, 07:35:53 PM
Just a word before they even start, I've just had the privilege of spending a week with these guys and gal on the Danube, the "All hands on deck" cruise, and they're such lovely, talented people. I'm really looking forward to their set on Thursday eve  ;D Hello to anyone else who was on the good ship AmaSerena. Wasn't it just fantastic!


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Jim on August 11, 2017, 12:26:36 AM
 Magnificent.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Nick Reg on August 11, 2017, 07:38:49 AM
Absolutely wonderful.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: hendo (Dave) on August 11, 2017, 09:07:59 AM

Absolutely wonderful.

Seen them a lot in the last few years, in small and large venues and they have never failed to deliver!


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Mal in Somerset on August 12, 2017, 11:21:43 AM
Excellent performance. Really got the festival going!


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Albie on August 13, 2017, 12:33:16 PM
Brilliant as usual.
Should have headlined the Thursday, they had easily the biggest crowd of the day down the front.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Collstoke (Ian) on August 13, 2017, 03:17:37 PM
Excellent once again


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: mickf on August 13, 2017, 03:49:53 PM
A great set. Fantastic rapport with the crowd - just what you want at a festival, a lot of the favourites to keep everyone happy.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Will S on August 13, 2017, 03:51:27 PM
Very good, as others have said.  And did a good job of interacting with the crowd and getting people involved.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Tony Mc on August 13, 2017, 04:56:59 PM
Don't shoot me, but I think they are overdone. They are at nearly every festival this year and after a few times it starts getting a bit samey. They have a massive following (along the south coast) and that's great, but please can we have someone else for a change! They do write a good song and Steve K is a strong front man, but....


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Albie on August 13, 2017, 07:56:10 PM

Don't shoot me, but I think they are overdone. They are at nearly every festival this year and after a few times it starts getting a bit samey. They have a massive following (along the south coast) and that's great, but please can we have someone else for a change! They do write a good song and Steve K is a strong front man, but....


Well.........they hadn't played Cropredy since 2007, so how much of a change do you want?  :D

They get booked at a lot of festivals because they are popular and sell tickets. They drew the biggest crowd on thursday down the front, bigger than Trev Horn, and much bigger than the Profane Tragedy who headlined.

I know sometimes the same acts can play a lot of festivals, but I think there might be more people at Cropredy who go to one, or maybe two festivals a year, than there are who go to, say, ten or more. So SoH were therefore a great choice for Cropredy.

Personally, I wish they played every festival I go to. Even the rock ones.  8)



Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: David V B on August 13, 2017, 09:17:06 PM
For me they could and should have been the Thursday headliners. Brilliant set which just flew by. Never tire of seeing them


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Andy on August 14, 2017, 12:35:04 AM
They were great and very energised. We saw them at the New Forest where they were ok, but this performance eclipsed that one effortlessly.

And a new song, to boot!


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Gouty (Gary) on August 14, 2017, 12:55:42 AM
When their opening song was 'Are We Alright?' - a full-on crowd pleaser they normally reserve for the end - I knew it was going to be a great SoH set, and it was.

When Steve sang the opening line of their beautiful version of 'Boys of Summer', I wish the official Cropredy photographer had somehow been able to take a picture of the look I saw on her face at that moment. Sort of this  :) to the power of 10!


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Peter H on August 14, 2017, 08:15:25 AM
One of the highlights of our weekend. After enjoying their last appearance in 2007, we were really looking forward to this set and we were not disappointed. Excellent! Hopefully we won't have to wait another ten years for their next appearance on the bill


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: mikec on August 14, 2017, 08:25:17 AM
With the exception of the Fairport set (1st half anyway) SOH were the act of the weekend. Masters of their craft.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: flossiefiddler on August 14, 2017, 08:26:53 AM
Loved them. Agree with plenty here that they would have been a great headline act. SK just fab at working the crowd, as always, and love PB distinctive fiddle sound.

SOH the highlight of the festival for me


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: YaBB Master (Colin) on August 14, 2017, 10:01:06 AM
Well I'm not a great fan of Show of Hands, but this was one of the standout sets of the festival.
I have previously been put off by their love of the anthemic protest folk, aimed at increasingly easy targets. (Apart from Country Life which is great).

However their last CD was much more varied and this was reflected in the Cropredy set. I stood at the front for the whole set and really enjoyed it. They won me over.

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Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Danny_C on August 14, 2017, 10:04:40 AM
A band I love and never get tired of, and this was one of the best performances live I have heard in quite a while.  They seemed to genuinely be pleased to be there and the reaction of the crowd spurred them on.  One of my highlights of the weekend


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Nick Peake on August 14, 2017, 11:28:24 AM
A superb set from masters of their craft.  They didn't disappoint one little bit, and yes, they should be headliners!


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Bingers (Chris) on August 14, 2017, 02:25:13 PM
Quality, quality, quality a really excellent performance


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: richardkendell on August 14, 2017, 05:10:06 PM
Pretty much the same set (including ad libs) as Folk By The Oak. I thoroughly enjoyed them,again.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on August 14, 2017, 05:13:20 PM
They have never, ever failed for me, this was no exception.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Paul on August 14, 2017, 10:23:47 PM
Show of Hands are certainly on fire at the moment. They were great at Wickham, and they were great at Cropredy. Steve seems to have mellowed with age a bit. Phil is getting a well deserved time at the front now, and Miranda goes from strength to strength. Particularly with her singing. I had tears in my eyes for The Keeper, partly because of the WW1 subject matter, but secondly because Miranda's backing vocals were so beautiful, contrasting with the subject matter of the song.

Paul


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: David Bean on August 14, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
Pure class.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: stvernon (simon) on August 15, 2017, 11:36:43 AM
One of the highlights of the Festival for me. I've seen them six or seven times, firstly as a duo, but last few times, with Miranda on double bass.  I wouldnt want to see them now,  without her, the bass adds so much to their sound


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Field 7 is Heaven (Trev) on August 15, 2017, 12:45:41 PM
Best rendition of Cousin Jack I have ever heard,

perhaps because the backing singers numbered thousands.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on August 15, 2017, 12:48:57 PM
Disappointed to have missed them but I was bopping to a Ska band at the Red Lion  8)

Hope to catch them live soon  :)


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Pastieboy (Trev) on August 15, 2017, 08:42:36 PM
Ive seen Show of Hands loads of times . This set was the best set I have ever seen them do . Steve Knightly had dropped some of his political rantings it seemed to me ? Or am I wrong ---anyway --very surprised to have really enjoyed them this time out . "Roots" lyrics get me very emotional every time . I feel very strongly about that songs lesson . Great stuff .


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Jim on August 15, 2017, 08:49:01 PM

Ive seen Show of Hands loads of times . This set was the best set I have ever seen them do . Steve Knightly had dropped some of his political rantings it seemed to me ? Or am I wrong ---anyway --very surprised to have really enjoyed them this time out . "Roots" lyrics get me very emotional every time . I feel very strongly about that songs lesson . Great stuff .


Im not a SoH afficinado but i thought there was plenty of politics in the announcements and music, I loved them.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Paula Tindall on August 15, 2017, 10:36:37 PM
Absolutely wonderful. Didn't want them to leave!


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Keith on August 16, 2017, 04:05:00 PM
Possible rant warning...

Have been a fan of the band for many years, seen them live half a dozen times including the Albert Hall, got most of the albums. The set this year was well played - Phil and Miranda were truly excellent - and Steve did what Steve does. But.

It's taken a few years to get to this point, and maybe I was blinded by the music, though someone formerly of this board did say a similar thing to me a few years ago, to wit: why does Steve have to be so earnest all the time? I met him once, he was grumpy. Maybe a one-off, though someone who until recently worked closely with him said he was intense pretty much constantly, a total contrast to Phil.

And I could forgive that if it wasn't for the earnestness. I don't mean, anger or protest - we need protest songs, and Country Life is a genuine classic (maybe not so much Roots - what's wrong with rap? And Cromarty isn't in England) - but the heart-on-sleeve, "you're staying till the end while I frown" sense of things. There are other ways to make a point, there really are.

To make a direct comparison with Divine Comedy, who were on the same evening, SoH's song AIG (or Cutthroats, Crooks and Conmen, basically the same song) made a point, very seriously, and then I forgot. I had never heard DC's Complete Banker before, and it's still going round in my head - comedy, satire, self-deprecation and a nice tune. Then there was the confessional, No Secrets which I just couldn't sing along to, because relationships aren't black and white like that; compare with DC's Something In The Woodshed and you see something dramatic, funny and dark at the same time.

I would really like to be able to enjoy Show of Hands again, but Steve's songs need to change. There is joy, there is love, there is drama, there is shock, there is sadness, there is purpose and rage. So much to bring to the fore with a little effort.

Oh, and they didn't play The Dive, nuff said  ;)


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Andy on August 16, 2017, 04:11:45 PM
I liked the new "No Secrets" song.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Adam on August 16, 2017, 05:07:48 PM

Possible rant warning...

Have been a fan of the band for many years, seen them live half a dozen times including the Albert Hall, got most of the albums. The set this year was well played - Phil and Miranda were truly excellent - and Steve did what Steve does. But.

It's taken a few years to get to this point, and maybe I was blinded by the music, though someone formerly of this board did say a similar thing to me a few years ago, to wit: why does Steve have to be so earnest all the time? I met him once, he was grumpy. Maybe a one-off, though someone who until recently worked closely with him said he was intense pretty much constantly, a total contrast to Phil.

And I could forgive that if it wasn't for the earnestness. I don't mean, anger or protest - we need protest songs, and Country Life is a genuine classic (maybe not so much Roots - what's wrong with rap? And Cromarty isn't in England) - but the heart-on-sleeve, "you're staying till the end while I frown" sense of things. There are other ways to make a point, there really are.

To make a direct comparison with Divine Comedy, who were on the same evening, SoH's song AIG (or Cutthroats, Crooks and Conmen, basically the same song) made a point, very seriously, and then I forgot. I had never heard DC's Complete Banker before, and it's still going round in my head - comedy, satire, self-deprecation and a nice tune. Then there was the confessional, No Secrets which I just couldn't sing along to, because relationships aren't black and white like that; compare with DC's Something In The Woodshed and you see something dramatic, funny and dark at the same time.

I would really like to be able to enjoy Show of Hands again, but Steve's songs need to change. There is joy, there is love, there is drama, there is shock, there is sadness, there is purpose and rage. So much to bring to the fore with a little effort.

Oh, and they didn't play The Dive, nuff said  ;)


Interesting! Steve is definitely more laid back on his solo tours, and was positively jovial when I saw him at the behind the castle festival a couple of years ago. Did anyone notice his wry smile on the "everyone stares at a great big screen" line during Roots (whilst looking at said big screen?). Maybe the contrast with Phil is what makes them so good.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: mickf on August 16, 2017, 05:18:25 PM

Possible rant warning...

Have been a fan of the band for many years, seen them live half a dozen times including the Albert Hall, got most of the albums. The set this year was well played - Phil and Miranda were truly excellent - and Steve did what Steve does. But.

It's taken a few years to get to this point, and maybe I was blinded by the music, though someone formerly of this board did say a similar thing to me a few years ago, to wit: why does Steve have to be so earnest all the time? I met him once, he was grumpy. Maybe a one-off, though someone who until recently worked closely with him said he was intense pretty much constantly, a total contrast to Phil.

And I could forgive that if it wasn't for the earnestness. I don't mean, anger or protest - we need protest songs, and Country Life is a genuine classic (maybe not so much Roots - what's wrong with rap? And Cromarty isn't in England) - but the heart-on-sleeve, "you're staying till the end while I frown" sense of things. There are other ways to make a point, there really are.

To make a direct comparison with Divine Comedy, who were on the same evening, SoH's song AIG (or Cutthroats, Crooks and Conmen, basically the same song) made a point, very seriously, and then I forgot. I had never heard DC's Complete Banker before, and it's still going round in my head - comedy, satire, self-deprecation and a nice tune. Then there was the confessional, No Secrets which I just couldn't sing along to, because relationships aren't black and white like that; compare with DC's Something In The Woodshed and you see something dramatic, funny and dark at the same time.

I would really like to be able to enjoy Show of Hands again, but Steve's songs need to change. There is joy, there is love, there is drama, there is shock, there is sadness, there is purpose and rage. So much to bring to the fore with a little effort.

Oh, and they didn't play The Dive, nuff said  ;)
I totally agree...with your last comment


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Amethyst (Jenny) on August 16, 2017, 06:12:27 PM
Keith clearly knows a different Steve Knightley to the one I know.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Keith on August 16, 2017, 08:46:11 PM

Keith clearly knows a different Steve Knightley to the one I know.


Sadly, I can't go into any more details, for obvious reasons.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Paul on August 16, 2017, 10:20:54 PM
Steve is very intense, but I think this is because he cares. You do have Phil to provide a balance.

This was demonstrated very aptly at Wickham a few years ago. The main stage at Wickham is under a big circus top. Steve comes on, and starts a very earnest description of what they are going to play. Phil comes on, and with a big grin says "Where are the elephants?"

Paul


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Albie on August 17, 2017, 12:25:26 AM
I like SK, he is intense, not sure he is grumpy though. He makes me laugh, the music is great and his heart is absolutely in the right place so carry on. 8)


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Mark on August 17, 2017, 10:07:49 AM

Don't shoot me, but I think they are overdone. They are at nearly every festival this year and after a few times it starts getting a bit samey ...


That you have been to see them so often is surely your fault not theirs?


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Roy C on August 17, 2017, 11:15:20 PM
Works for me every time. They just get better and better and make it look so easy.


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Polly Oxford (Andie) on August 17, 2017, 11:32:11 PM
At the end I thought, wow, all my favourites! Then I thought of all my other favourites... a classic set topped off by the amazing Chris While, heaven!


Title: Re: Show of Hands
Post by: Mike Tamlin on August 19, 2017, 02:58:32 PM
should have headlined Thursday, great set