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Title: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: David W on October 16, 2013, 09:36:28 AM
There is often chat about how people would like to see new faces in FC - Martin Barre / PJ Wright for example

So who would you have liked to have seen in the band but has never made it? May be someone who has joined them briefly at Cropredy, a musician who has traveled alongside them, or someone totally unrelated.

One stipulation - Robert Plant is a given!!

My first choice would be:

John Kirkpatrick - I loved his sound when he worked with RT and in Steeleye and love the squeezebox in a rock setting like the Oysters have done.

DW


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 16, 2013, 09:40:03 AM
Ken Nicol played a few songs with them when he was touring as their support act a few years back. I thought he sounded great and would be a real asset to the current line up.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Nick Reg on October 16, 2013, 09:42:08 AM
Julianne Regan


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Ronald on October 16, 2013, 09:51:51 AM
Martin Carthy, can sing and play electric guitar

John Tams, great singer and can play guitar and melodeon

Graeme Taylor, electric guitar.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Dan O. on October 16, 2013, 09:59:21 AM
P J Wright


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Andy on October 16, 2013, 09:59:42 AM
Pete Zorn.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 16, 2013, 10:34:56 AM
Me.

 ;)

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: PLW (Peter) on October 16, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
I'd still go for a female vocalist. When Kellie was on stage at Cropredy, and when the Larkin Poe girls sang with them last year, they moved up to a new level. It's not about trying to replace Sandy - any more than Ric or Chris replace Swarb.

So:
Kellie While
Linda Thompson



Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Sir Martin on October 16, 2013, 10:56:06 AM

Pete Zorn.


Good Call.

Clive Gregson - he is closest to the RT 'style' of any guitarist I have seen. And he can write songs.

And another vote for Kellie While


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jamie73 on October 16, 2013, 11:22:54 AM

Julianne Regan


Defo!


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: RobertD on October 16, 2013, 11:42:42 AM
Maybe not an obvious choice but I wondered what someone like Andy Roberts would have done in Fairport. For the womans side, I always enjoyed Polly Bolton as a singer.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 16, 2013, 12:21:48 PM
That's who I was going to say. Still holding hope she does Cropredy again  {:-)


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: DaviD J (was geriatrix) on October 16, 2013, 12:47:26 PM
Yes, Julianne's version of Who Knows Where The Time Goes, at Cropredy in 198something, beat all the others, apart from Sandy's, into a cocked hat. What IS a cocked hat anyway?

Sadly, she's certainly not performing live at the moment... Still, stranger things have happened (hallo Judy, Shelagh) so you never know. Personally I think she should just go out anon. and do pub and folk club gigs singing a few Sandy covers...


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Staffan on October 16, 2013, 01:37:31 PM
Kellie While
Linda Thompson


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: RobertD on October 16, 2013, 02:18:32 PM
Thought of another one-Phil Beer


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: bassline (Mike) on October 16, 2013, 02:25:10 PM
I recently thought about who could replace any of the current members should they leave and ended up with this complete band:

Ralph McTell (Simon) Vocals,Guitar,Songwriter.
Pat Donaldson (Peggy) Bass.
Joe Broughton (Ric or Chris) Fiddle, Guitar, Mandolin.
Ray Laidlaw (Gerry) Drums.
And as mentioned,
Martin Barre (Chris) Lead Guitar.


p.s Julianne is fine by me too.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: KascadeDan on October 16, 2013, 02:41:56 PM
If Ric were not in the band, I think Guy Fletcher could pull it off.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Peter H-K on October 16, 2013, 07:53:56 PM
Jedward.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: moontheloon (Bryan) on October 16, 2013, 08:03:43 PM
Sod Jedward, I second Ken Nicol, Awesome guitarist, singer/songwriter.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Alan2 on October 17, 2013, 09:42:19 AM
Rick Wakeman.  ;D


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Polly Oxford (Andie) on October 17, 2013, 01:04:01 PM
Simon Care/Gareth Turner - a good bouncy melodian would suit me ( or of course J Kirkpatrick), but none of them are singers, so PJ is back in my frame. And Kelly's mum was the best non-Sandy voice I've heard on the Cropredy stage by a good distance.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Nick Reg on October 17, 2013, 01:07:04 PM
I'm surprised that Chris  & Julie havent been invited back to Croppers for a while . Their last duo appearance was stunning , as was the Blue Tapestry one.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Dan O. on October 18, 2013, 11:26:51 AM

I'm surprised that Chris  & Julie havent been invited back to Croppers for a while . Their last duo appearance was stunning , as was the Blue Tapestry one.

Blue Tapestry are on my Cropredy wish-list every year...the last one was 2003, surely a reunion's on the cards ? Might casually mention it to Chris & Julie when I see them play in Fareham tomorrow evening...


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: macademis on October 18, 2013, 12:14:14 PM
A really strong vocal component would add another dimension - what about Percy, or maybe Roger Chapman (I can hear his treatment of Matty Groves as I type....)?
 


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 18, 2013, 12:58:07 PM
I shall be shouted down in flames and hounded out of town for this one

Richard Digance  - I think his and Peggy's voices would have blended very well  


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: fat Billy(Bill) on October 18, 2013, 01:11:56 PM

I shall be shouted down in flames and hounded out of town for this one

Richard Digance  - I think his and Peggy's voices would have blended very well  


Interesting!
Please miss I've found a witch, can we burn her?


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: macademis on October 18, 2013, 01:21:36 PM
Bridgewitch?


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 18, 2013, 01:44:55 PM


I shall be shouted down in flames and hounded out of town for this one
Richard Digance  - I think his and Peggy's voices would have blended very well  

Interesting!
Please miss I've found a witch, can we burn her?
I float  {:-)


Bridgewitch?
 ;D


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: fat Billy(Bill) on October 18, 2013, 01:51:16 PM



I shall be shouted down in flames and hounded out of town for this one
Richard Digance  - I think his and Peggy's voices would have blended very well  

Interesting!
Please miss I've found a witch, can we burn her?
I float  {:-)


Bridgewitch?
 ;D


Not with a lump of cement around yer ankles you won't.


You can bewitch me anytime kid.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 18, 2013, 02:25:24 PM




I shall be shouted down in flames and hounded out of town for this one
Richard Digance  - I think his and Peggy's voices would have blended very well  

Interesting!
Please miss I've found a witch, can we burn her?
I float  {:-)

Bridgewitch?
 ;D

Not with a lump of cement around yer ankles you won't.
You can bewitch me anytime kid.
 :o


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: John From Austin on October 18, 2013, 08:17:23 PM
David Francey


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Darren_j on October 19, 2013, 08:10:28 PM
Getting Linda Thompson in at some point would have been a good move.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Graham B on October 20, 2013, 12:48:52 PM
Simon Care


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: mightyglydd on October 22, 2013, 02:15:51 AM
Sammy Hagar or Reg Presley (RIP).


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Greg on October 22, 2013, 06:50:21 AM
Not quite what the title said, but Iain Matthews rejoining sometime in the mid to late 70s.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: MickO on October 22, 2013, 10:17:30 AM
Lemmy.... ;D


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: DaviD J (was geriatrix) on October 22, 2013, 10:31:13 AM
OK, Iain Matthews and Julianne Regan ....


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 22, 2013, 10:34:22 AM

OK, Iain Matthews and Julianne Regan ....


I'm still thinking me.

 ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Poor Will (Bill) on October 22, 2013, 12:32:36 PM


OK, Iain Matthews and Julianne Regan ....


I'm still thinking me.

 ;D

Jules
Still time!


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Andy on October 22, 2013, 12:45:06 PM
Probably not. I can't see any changes in the lineup before the lucrative 50th anniversary, at which point they may well decide that thet's enough.

Just uninformed conjecture on my part, of course.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Ronald on October 22, 2013, 12:54:17 PM

Probably not. I can't see any changes in the lineup before the lucrative 50th anniversary, at which point they may well decide that thet's enough.

Just uninformed conjecture on my part, of course.


I think you could be right, sometimes we seem to forget that they also get older, and how long will they enjoy touring and travelling.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Bridgwit (Bridget) on October 22, 2013, 01:05:28 PM

Probably not. I can't see any changes in the lineup before the lucrative 50th anniversary, at which point they may well decide that thet's enough.

Just uninformed conjecture on my part, of course.
I hate being cynical but I've been thinking along those lines. Gerry and Peggy will both be 70 in 2017, Mr Nicol in 2020, although there's no reason why they should stop then, of course!

I think/hope they'll keep Cropredy going tho, as long as it's financially viable. They can still do a "FC and Friends" final, just with a bit more emphasis on the friends!  {:-)


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Ronald on October 22, 2013, 01:13:56 PM

 I hate being cynical but I've been thinking along those lines. Gerry and Peggy will both be 70 in 2017, Mr Nicol in 2020, although there's no reason why they should stop then, of course!

I think/hope they'll keep Cropredy going tho, as long as it's financially viable. They can still do a "FC and Friends" final, just with a bit more emphasis on the friends!  {:-)


I can think of one very good reason, rest their weary bones. :)


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Will S on October 22, 2013, 01:51:34 PM
Simon used to talk about the FC name continuing on.  I think that might have worked if they had bought in some proper young talent some years ago.  Nowadays I doubt that it would.  I suspect that they will hang up their instruments at some stage (probably not till after the 50th though, unless something major occurs to force the issue) and that the band we all love will be no more.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Nick Reg on October 22, 2013, 02:29:15 PM
I think that there could well be a glut of retirements from bands we have loved (or hated  ;D ;)) since the 60's. For very obvious reasons. Most people seem content to retire at 65 but musicians seem to carry on regardless, even when they don't need the cash.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 22, 2013, 02:36:14 PM

I think that there could well be a glut of retirements from bands we have loved (or hated  ;D ;)) since the 60's. For very obvious reasons. Most people seem content to retire at 65 but musicians seem to carry on regardless, even when they don't need the cash.


That's the difference between working a job and doing the thing you love.

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Ronald on October 22, 2013, 04:16:13 PM
I remember reading somewhere recently that Simon was looking forward to a long rest.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 22, 2013, 09:45:34 PM

I remember reading somewhere recently that Simon was looking forward to a long rest.


Well, alas, we all get one of those eventually.   ::)

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Ronald on October 23, 2013, 07:50:18 AM


I remember reading somewhere recently that Simon was looking forward to a long rest.


Well, alas, we all get one of those eventually.   ::)

Jules


I don't think he meant that kind of rest but one he could enjoy. :)


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: David W on October 23, 2013, 11:15:02 AM

I remember reading somewhere recently that Simon was looking forward to a long rest.


well we now know what to buy him for Christmas - obviously a snooker player.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 23, 2013, 11:50:04 AM


I remember reading somewhere recently that Simon was looking forward to a long rest.


well we now know what to buy him for Christmas - obviously a snooker player.


I've have thought he'd want a long snooker rest rather than an actual snooker player.  They cost so much to feed and water.   ;D

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Gouty (Gary) on October 23, 2013, 12:37:58 PM



I remember reading somewhere recently that Simon was looking forward to a long rest.


well we now know what to buy him for Christmas - obviously a snooker player.


I've have thought he'd want a long snooker rest rather than an actual snooker player.  They cost so much to feed and water.   ;D

Jules


Got to hand it to you, Jules. When it comes to jokes you never miss your cue...  :)


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 23, 2013, 01:24:28 PM

Got to hand it to you, Jules. When it comes to jokes you never miss your cue...  :)


Chalk that one up to experience, Gouty.   ;)

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: MikeB (Mike) on October 23, 2013, 01:48:48 PM
Leave it off lads, we could do with a break...   :P


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 23, 2013, 02:08:09 PM

Leave it off lads, we could do with a break...   :P


I'm stunned.   :o

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: DarrenWilliams on October 23, 2013, 04:11:41 PM


Leave it off lads, we could do with a break...   :P


I'm stunned.   :o

Jules


Me too, definitely a case of the kettle calling the pot black!

Badum-tish!


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: PaulT on October 23, 2013, 05:09:20 PM
Yer all loopy!  ;)

Back on track - Peter Knight, Bob Johnson, Julianne Regan, John Wetton.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 23, 2013, 08:59:07 PM

Yer all loopy!  ;)


This thread has gone to pot.   ::)

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Gouty (Gary) on October 23, 2013, 11:52:46 PM


OK, Iain Matthews and Julianne Regan ....


I'm still thinking me.

 ;D

Jules


OK, back on track...

So, Jules: 'Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be --------------- from Fairport Convention!'

I cannot help but notice the guitar you brandish in your TAW photo  ::) but that may be a red herring   ??? . Just what form would your singular, yet boldly asserted, contribution to our beloved band take?


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 24, 2013, 07:16:43 AM

So, Jules: 'Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be --------------- from Fairport Convention!'

I cannot help but notice the guitar you brandish in your TAW photo  ::) but that may be a red herring   ??? . Just what form would your singular, yet boldly asserted, contribution to our beloved band take?


It's about time they had a Jagger-esque frontman.  I'd bring some real glamour to the band.   8)

Well, either that, or I'd be a second rate Trevor Lucas.   ::)

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: YaBB Master (Colin) on October 24, 2013, 09:25:39 AM

I hate being cynical but I've been thinking along those lines. Gerry and Peggy will both be 70 in 2017, Mr Nicol in 2020, although there's no reason why they should stop then, of course!

Never mind the band, there are quite a few members of the audience who would like to know when we can 'retire'.
When can we just sit at home and listen to the LPs, without being drawn to an open field for three days, or leave our cosy hearths on winter nights?


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 24, 2013, 10:15:53 AM


I hate being cynical but I've been thinking along those lines. Gerry and Peggy will both be 70 in 2017, Mr Nicol in 2020, although there's no reason why they should stop then, of course!

Never mind the band, there are quite a few members of the audience who would like to know when we can 'retire'.
When can we just sit at home and listen to the LPs, without being drawn to an open field for three days, or leave our cosy hearths on winter nights?


Some of us have already taken early retirement.

I suddenly realised that seeing them at the GBBF in December means that I don't need to attend the Wintour this year, which came as a curious relief even though they are actually playing in my home town this time around.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Gouty (Gary) on October 24, 2013, 10:31:39 AM


So, Jules: 'Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be --------------- from Fairport Convention!'

I cannot help but notice the guitar you brandish in your TAW photo  ::) but that may be a red herring   ??? . Just what form would your singular, yet boldly asserted, contribution to our beloved band take?


It's about time they had a Jagger-esque frontman.  I'd bring some real glamour to the band.   8)


Jules


I'm sure you would, Jules  ;)

In the meantime, thanks to you, I now have the sound of the real Jagger singing The Hexamshire Lass going round and round my head on a loop..  :o


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Gouty (Gary) on October 24, 2013, 10:44:29 AM


Some of us have already taken early retirement.

I suddenly realised that seeing them at the GBBF in December means that I don't need to attend the Wintour this year, which came as a curious relief even though they are actually playing in my home town this time around.


Fairport at the Great British Beer Festival sounds like a match made in Heaven, Al  ;)


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Jules Gray on October 24, 2013, 10:44:55 AM

In the meantime, thanks to you, I now have the sound of the real Jagger singing The Hexamshire Lass going round and round my head in a loop..  :o


Or maybe Matty Groves...

"I can't get no....I can't get up for my life!"

 ;)

Jules


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: GubGub (Al) on October 24, 2013, 11:14:00 AM



Some of us have already taken early retirement.

I suddenly realised that seeing them at the GBBF in December means that I don't need to attend the Wintour this year, which came as a curious relief even though they are actually playing in my home town this time around.


Fairport at the Great British Beer Festival sounds like a match made in Heaven, Al  ;)


Oops. Freudian slip. GBFF of course. Sadly I haven't got to the GBBF for some years.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Gouty (Gary) on October 24, 2013, 11:19:23 AM




Some of us have already taken early retirement.

I suddenly realised that seeing them at the GBBF in December means that I don't need to attend the Wintour this year, which came as a curious relief even though they are actually playing in my home town this time around.


Fairport at the Great British Beer Festival sounds like a match made in Heaven, Al  ;)



Oops. Freudian slip. GBFF of course. Sadly I haven't got to the GBBF for some years.



Funnily enough, the GBBF is one event I've retired from as I found all the queuing, the noise, the crowds etc. too much like hard work :(


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: PaulT on October 28, 2013, 08:56:12 AM
Now, here's a strange coincidence... I posted on here the other day that I thought John Wetton could have fitted in well in FC.

Yesterday, I read in Robert Fripp's extensive sleeve notes to "The Road to Red" that:

"Rick Kemp auditioned for King Crimson in 1970, and actually joined the group - for three days.  It was rather too much for this excellent player.  The audition and rehearsals were recorded, and are now part of my personal KC archive material".

Well...


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Austin S on October 28, 2013, 06:09:23 PM

Now, here's a strange coincidence... I posted on here the other day that I thought John Wetton could have fitted in well in FC.

Yesterday, I read in Robert Fripp's extensive sleeve notes to "The Road to Red" that:

"Rick Kemp auditioned for King Crimson in 1970, and actually joined the group - for three days.  It was rather too much for this excellent player.  The audition and rehearsals were recorded, and are now part of my personal KC archive material".

Well...


Those would be awfully cool to hear... Maybe something will pop up in the archival material 'Free Download' section someday. Seems like it would match the type of thing they post there regularly.


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Peter H-K on October 28, 2013, 08:18:37 PM


In the meantime, thanks to you, I now have the sound of the real Jagger singing The Hexamshire Lass going round and round my head on a loop..  :o


Gosh, so have I now; and it's horrible!


Title: Re: Would have been great in FC ...
Post by: Phil Perry on November 25, 2013, 03:17:38 PM
Of course, the Albions did replace the entire band a couple of years ago. But despite the numerous line-up changes over the years, I'd hate to see FC (or SS) go the same way. The Albion Band always was an even more fluid line up than either of their 2 sister bands ...