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Title: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mister Keith on March 23, 2012, 03:36:55 PM

When I was a lad, back in the 80s, one of the kids at my school had a double live album by Hawkwind which sounded amazing.  Hey, we loved Marillion back then.  I've no idea what it was and there seems to be a lot of options.

Does anyone have any suggestions as to what it might have been?  Or, alternatively, can suggest some good Hawkwind??


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: PaulT on March 23, 2012, 03:50:03 PM
Probably the Space Ritual, Keith - live at Liverpool Stadium (I was there!) & Brixton? - recorded early 70s.

There's a couple of versions available, including the inevitable deluxe reissue.

I bought a (vinyl) copy, cos I'd been there, but listened to it no more than a couple of times.  Heard some of it again quite recently, and remembered why I hardly played it.  Tedious.  But I was young & impressionable then - and I did see a poster at the Stadium advertising a Can gig - so some good came out of that evening after all!  :)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mister Keith on March 23, 2012, 04:30:42 PM
Aha!  Just looked it up on Amazon - 51 reviews of which 44 are 5 stars! And it's only £5.49.  Bargain - gotta be worth a punt at that price....but will it sound as good as I remember 25 years later...?

Thanks, Paul.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mister Keith on March 23, 2012, 04:47:11 PM

I bought a (vinyl) copy...but listened to it no more than a couple of times.


It was around that time that I bought a copy of "Live at Last" by Black Sabbath. God, it was bad. Two sides of vinyl and they had the nerve to include the drum solo??     >:(


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on March 23, 2012, 05:06:25 PM
There was also a double album - This Is Hawkwind, Do Not Panic - from the early 80's which as I recall contained some tracks from Stonhenge Festival plus some left over cuts from the Levitation tour.  One of the discs was a 12" single (i.e 45 rpm)..must look in vinyl cupboard to confirm.  There was another double album, Live Chronicles, from 1985 or so from the Chronicles of the Black Sword tour.  

From just after the Space Ritual era there is a double album Party 1999 from Chicago, recorded in 1974 with pretty much the Space Ritual line up, minus Bob Calvert.  That is well worth getting.

No doubt there are other double Hawkind live albums - Text of the Festival for example, which is of bootleg quality at most.  Atomhenge from the 1976 Astounding Sounds tour..I could go on, but won't.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Glen S on March 23, 2012, 05:31:20 PM
I dragged a reluctant friend along to the New Theatre Oxford in the 1980's to see Hawkwind (Ginger Baker was drumming if I recall). My only experience up to that point was a taped copy of "Space Ritual", and some stuff on a live compilation LP "The Greasy Truckers Party?" which I'd actually quite enjoyed.

Can't say the Oxford gig was very memorable though, but I did manage to sit it out to the end. My mate however, managed to slip out undetected to The Grapes opposite the theatre... ;D


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Shankly (Peter) on March 23, 2012, 06:31:11 PM

Probably the Space Ritual, Keith - live at Liverpool Stadium (I was there!)


Me too!



I bought a (vinyl) copy, cos I'd been there, but listened to it no more than a couple of times.  Heard some of it again quite recently, and remembered why I hardly played it.  Tedious.  But I was young & impressionable then - and I did see a poster at the Stadium advertising a Can gig - so some good came out of that evening after all!  :)


I still play it occasionally and think it's great (man) - brings back so many memories, particularly the 'exotic' aromas in the atmosphere


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Sir Martin on March 23, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
Another vote for Space Ritual - as long as you can suspend yourself from reality, it's a blast!


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Sandra on March 23, 2012, 07:18:32 PM
We saw Hawkwind live at Beautiful Days a couple of years ago. Ok I know the arguments about 'which line up is really Hawkwind' etc, but whatever, they were great and much as I remebered them live in the 1970's, especially as I couldn't see then too well due to being too vain to wear my glasses.

I could see that the fragrant Stacia has been replaced by women in wrapped in sheets, shiny women on stilts and finally shiny women on stilts wrapped in sheets. The light show was awesome though. ;D ;D ;D

Sorry for the diversion. As you were. Carry on.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: DaviD J (was geriatrix) on March 23, 2012, 07:26:37 PM
Might be seeing the current Hawkwind at Rhythm Festival in August. Not too sure though cos it looks like they clash with Peatbog Faeries on the Folk stage, and worse, with the amazing Wilko Johnson on the Blues stage. Still since Stacia with her amazing attributes isn't likely to be there, I guess I'll probaly go with Wilko.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Andy on March 23, 2012, 09:13:11 PM
Stacia was very catholic in her tastes in men. But she had a helluva good time.

The music was very good too, back in the era of the Yellow House in Portobellow.

Or so I would remember, if I hadn't been there.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on March 23, 2012, 09:38:02 PM

Aha!  Just looked it up on Amazon - 51 reviews of which 44 are 5 stars! And it's only £5.49.  Bargain - gotta be worth a punt at that price....but will it sound as good as I remember 25 years later...?




Not 'arf.

If you wish to delve deeper, most of the 70s albums are worth listening to. Quark, Strangeness and Charm is my favourite, Bob Calvert of Space Ritual fame was on that one, as he was on PXR5, which to me always sounds a bit punky and spacey at the same time.
Doremi............ was great, no Calvert but Lemmy and Simon King appeared for the first time, several of the songs turned up on Space Ritual.
Hall Of The Mountain Grill is a cracker, Warrior........ is good but with a bit of filler, Astounding Sounds.......... was a disappointment to me but spawned a couple of great tracks.
In Search Of Space, which was mentioned on the Listening To.... thread a week or two back, is an early one but very good, but imo they stepped up a gear or two when Simon King joined, his drumming really drove them on.


If you investigate and decide you like them, I can start talking 80s Hawkwind at a later date.  ;D




Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Paul on March 23, 2012, 10:40:53 PM
I have thoroughly enjoyed Space Ritual with Nik Turner at Weyfest the past couple of years. Some Hawkwind stuff, and some stuff of their own.

They have a dancer who looks nothing like Stacia  ;) ;D She is very good though.

Paul


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on March 24, 2012, 05:31:17 AM

I have thoroughly enjoyed Space Ritual with Nik Turner at Weyfest the past couple of years. Some Hawkwind stuff, and some stuff of their own.

They have a dancer who looks nothing like Stacia  ;) ;D She is very good though.

Paul



Miss Angel is her name I think, her entire bodyweight is slightly less than an individual Stacia breast.  ::)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Paul on March 24, 2012, 10:50:09 AM


I have thoroughly enjoyed Space Ritual with Nik Turner at Weyfest the past couple of years. Some Hawkwind stuff, and some stuff of their own.

They have a dancer who looks nothing like Stacia  ;) ;D She is very good though.

Paul



Miss Angel is her name I think, her entire bodyweight is slightly less than an individual Stacia breast.  ::)



All true.  ;D

She also danced for the crazy world of Arthur Brown.

Paul


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Sandra on March 24, 2012, 11:02:35 AM
Ah, I've seen her as well then.  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on March 24, 2012, 09:28:24 PM
They've got a new album out next month. Their last one, Blood of the Earth, was pretty good.

I saw them on the Space Bandits tour which was excellent. The next time I saw them was on the Electric Teepee tour, which wasn't very good.

Albums I like are:

Quark, Strangeness and Charm
Levitation
Chronicle of the Black Sword
It Is The Business of the Future to be Dangerous
Warrior on the Edge of time.
25 Years On (Hawklords)
Choose Your Masques


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: AdrianW on March 25, 2012, 12:46:28 AM
I've seen Space Ritual once (was unwell for my last opportunity) and Hawkwind several times in the past few years.

Space Ritual won hands down.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on March 25, 2012, 09:39:02 AM

I've seen Space Ritual once (was unwell for my last opportunity) and Hawkwind several times in the past few years.

Space Ritual won hands down.


I suppose SR play a higher proportion of the classic 70s songs, whereas Brock/Hawkwind want to reflect the entire 40+ year output and the new album if there is one. And Nik is/was more of a performer, a front man, than DB.

Dave Brock though, for all that he may at times be a little difficult, and however many old friends he has alienated, is one of the greats.

P.S. I am sure SR would go down a storm at Cropredy, there are plenty in the crowd who are old fans of Hawkwind/NIk, and the songs are good enough to win the rest over, surely. Oh well, not to be.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Sir Martin on March 25, 2012, 10:06:03 AM
Yes!

Space Ritual for Cropredy!


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on March 25, 2012, 10:50:10 AM
Apart from having Silver Machine on a compilation (which is actually my most played tune according to my ipod!) strangely I have managed to avoid ever getting anything by Hawkwind for some reason. I have just rectified that by ordereing the three-disc anthology for £8.99


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Andy on March 25, 2012, 10:59:59 AM
Even their first (eponymous) album had some notable tracks, the best of which was "Hurry On Sundown".


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on March 25, 2012, 11:06:28 AM

Apart from having Silver Machine on a compilation (which is actually my most played tune according to my ipod!) strangely I have managed to avoid ever getting anything by Hawkwind for some reason. I have just rectified that by ordereing the three-disc anthology for £8.99


Which three-disc anthology is that? Is it Epoch which covers the first 30 years or so of their career, or Spirit Of The Age which runs from 1976 to 1984 (I think 1976 was when the moved to Chrysalis??) or The Dream Goes On which runs from Chronicles Of The Black Sword to Distant Horizons? All of them have good stuff, but Epoch probably has more of the "classic" era songs. Or are there other anthologies?

To get back to Space Ritual (the album) I always think it is best heard in its entirety, I don't like it if songs from it pop up on shuffle, doesn't seem right to me.

And don't forget, folkies, use your wheels, it is what they are for.  ::)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on March 25, 2012, 11:08:55 AM

Even their first (eponymous) album had some notable tracks, the best of which was "Hurry On Sundown".


Yes, and the first four (studio) albums are available together, in slip cases, for less than a tenner. That's the eponymous debut, In Search Of Space, Doremi......., and Hall Of The Mountain Grill.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on March 25, 2012, 11:12:07 AM


Apart from having Silver Machine on a compilation (which is actually my most played tune according to my ipod!) strangely I have managed to avoid ever getting anything by Hawkwind for some reason. I have just rectified that by ordereing the three-disc anthology for £8.99


Which three-disc anthology is that? Is it Epoch which covers the first 30 years or so of their career, or Spirit Of The Age which runs from 1976 to 1984 (I think 1976 was when the moved to Chrysalis??) or The Dream Goes On which runs from Chronicles Of The Black Sword to Distant Horizons? All of them have good stuff, but Epoch probably has more of the "classic" era songs. Or are there other anthologies?

To get back to Space Ritual (the album) I always think it is best heard in its entirety, I don't like it if songs from it pop up on shuffle, doesn't seem right to me.

And don't forget, folkies, use your wheels, it is what they are for.  ::)


Yes Epoch. Don't know how I've managed to go so long without ever owning a Hawkwind album really...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on March 25, 2012, 11:17:11 AM



Apart from having Silver Machine on a compilation (which is actually my most played tune according to my ipod!) strangely I have managed to avoid ever getting anything by Hawkwind for some reason. I have just rectified that by ordereing the three-disc anthology for £8.99


Which three-disc anthology is that? Is it Epoch which covers the first 30 years or so of their career, or Spirit Of The Age which runs from 1976 to 1984 (I think 1976 was when the moved to Chrysalis??) or The Dream Goes On which runs from Chronicles Of The Black Sword to Distant Horizons? All of them have good stuff, but Epoch probably has more of the "classic" era songs. Or are there other anthologies?

To get back to Space Ritual (the album) I always think it is best heard in its entirety, I don't like it if songs from it pop up on shuffle, doesn't seem right to me.

And don't forget, folkies, use your wheels, it is what they are for.  ::)


Yes Epoch. Don't know how I've managed to go so long without ever owning a Hawkwind album really...


Well, I hope you enjoy it.
There are a lot of fantastic songs on there, but also a lot which are not on there, so if you find you really like your new purchase, it could still be worth investigating further.

Good listening.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on March 25, 2012, 11:23:24 AM





Yes Epoch. Don't know how I've managed to go so long without ever owning a Hawkwind album really...


Well, I hope you enjoy it.
There are a lot of fantastic songs on there, but also a lot which are not on there, so if you find you really like your new purchase, it could still be worth investigating further.

Good listening.


Well that has happend with so many bands. Starts with one bargain compilation for a few quid and within months I'm buying up their entire back catalogue...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on March 25, 2012, 11:25:58 AM

Well that has happend with so many bands. Starts with one bargain compilation for a few quid and within months I'm buying up their entire back catalogue...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Andy Tuck on March 25, 2012, 12:04:28 PM


Well that has happend with so many bands. Starts with one bargain compilation for a few quid and within months I'm buying up their entire back catalogue...


That could prove rather expensive. I have about 50 Hawkwind albums on vinyl and numerous others on CD, along with most of the rare singles. At one time I had everything, but gave up on that long ago with so many compilation and semi-bootleg live releases.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mister Keith on March 26, 2012, 10:54:57 AM

Blimey, thanks everyone! Let me start with "Space Ritual" and I'll see how I get on...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Nick Reg on March 26, 2012, 04:26:34 PM

Stacia was very catholic in her tastes in men. But she had a helluva good time.

The music was very good too, back in the era of the Yellow House in Portobellow.

Or so I would remember, if I hadn't been there.


I recollect meeting Stacia in Exeter before she joined the band. I was with a Fairport Fanatic called Richard Thompson (you couldnt make it up could you). She was brought into our common room by an American guy and decided she wanted to play table football with us. She played on my side and opposite RT. Every time she leaned forward her undeniable attributes vacated her dress , RT was distracted and I scored. I'm not convinced I got the best out of the deal! ;D


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Andy on March 26, 2012, 05:33:22 PM
You definitely got the best of it if you scored with Stacia.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: AdrianW on March 27, 2012, 03:06:18 AM
I seem to recall that another member of TAW has some entertaining Stacia tales too. She sounds quite a woman.

Nowadays an artist - and a good one too from the look of her web site ( http://www.staciablake.com/index.html ), albeit not updated for a few years.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on March 29, 2012, 07:54:55 PM
No Stacia stories but am enjoying my new 3CD Hawkwind anthology.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on March 29, 2012, 07:58:07 PM

No Stacia stories but am enjoying my new 3CD Hawkwind anthology.


Good good good. Would be interesting to know, when you have played it through a time or three, which era you think you like best.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on March 29, 2012, 09:16:00 PM


No Stacia stories but am enjoying my new 3CD Hawkwind anthology.


Good good good. Would be interesting to know, when you have played it through a time or three, which era you think you like best.


Well still listening my way through it but I'm particularly enjoying the early 70s Lemmy era and the mid 70s Calvert era.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on March 31, 2012, 08:15:09 PM
Right I've given it a few sins now and these are my favourite tracks so far

- Silver Machine 72
- Orgone Accumulator 73
- Lost Johnny 74
- Motorhead 75
- Assault & Battery 75
- Quark, Strangeness & Charm 77
- Psi Power 78
- Motoway City 80
- Levitation 80
- Right to Decide 92

These are the ones I downloaded on my mp3


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on April 05, 2012, 02:09:47 PM
Obviously you seem to like the 70s stuff.  8)  If you like them then you can't really go wrong with any albums from that era, except that imo Astounding Sounds......... (1977) is a bit of a disappointment, two great tracks aside.
The obvious next step though, I would think, would be Space Ritual, the live album, if you wanted to delve further.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on April 05, 2012, 05:41:59 PM

Obviously you seem to like the 70s stuff.  8)  If you like them then you can't really go wrong with any albums from that era, except that imo Astounding Sounds......... (1977) is a bit of a disappointment, two great tracks aside.
The obvious next step though, I would think, would be Space Ritual, the live album, if you wanted to delve further.


Based on the favourites picked out, I'd also try Hawklords 25 Years On (which is a bit more new wave), Quark Strangeness and Charm, PXR5 and Levitation.  Shame no proper CD reissue of Warriors..is available.

From the later years Electric Teepee was imho much under rated...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on April 05, 2012, 06:13:53 PM


Obviously you seem to like the 70s stuff.  8)  If you like them then you can't really go wrong with any albums from that era, except that imo Astounding Sounds......... (1977) is a bit of a disappointment, two great tracks aside.
The obvious next step though, I would think, would be Space Ritual, the live album, if you wanted to delve further.


Based on the favourites picked out, I'd also try Hawklords 25 Years On (which is a bit more new wave), Quark Strangeness and Charm, PXR5 and Levitation.  Shame no proper CD reissue of Warriors..is available.

From the later years Electric Teepee was imho much under rated...


I bouight the CD a while back, with Motorhead as a bonus track (it wasn't on the original vinyl).

Agree about Electric Tepee, I like it, and all the others you mention would be likely to appreciated by a nascent fan.

Incidentally, Astounding Sounds..... was from 1976, as I knew, I blame the computer.  ::)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on April 05, 2012, 07:17:07 PM
I seem to recall that the original master tapes for Warrior went missing or are being held hostage by a band member/ex band member and that the US/CDN CD pressings were taken from the master disc used to press the Atco vinyl copies released over here in the 70's..certainly there has been no EMI reissue like the remastered discs from debut album to HallOTMG..

The double Chicago 1999 party CD from EMI is well worth having with the post Calvert line up running through much of HOTMG plus the usual favourites with the added electric violin stylings of Simon House..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on April 08, 2012, 05:56:34 PM


Obviously you seem to like the 70s stuff.  8)  If you like them then you can't really go wrong with any albums from that era, except that imo Astounding Sounds......... (1977) is a bit of a disappointment, two great tracks aside.
The obvious next step though, I would think, would be Space Ritual, the live album, if you wanted to delve further.


Based on the favourites picked out, I'd also try Hawklords 25 Years On (which is a bit more new wave), Quark Strangeness and Charm, PXR5 and Levitation.  Shame no proper CD reissue of Warriors..is available.

From the later years Electric Teepee was imho much under rated...


Thanks all - yes I was thinking to myself anyway that Space Ritual would be an obvious next choice


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mister Keith on April 10, 2012, 10:30:04 AM

I was listening to "Space Ritual" on Spotify last night.  Really enjoyed it!


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on October 11, 2012, 09:12:15 PM
This is a different - but related - question which didn't warrant starting a new thread.  When did Nik leave the Hawklords then?  

That sort of passed me by I think.  (One does wonder quite how its possible to pee off as many bandmates as Nik managed to over the years...)

So...are the Hawklords still worth watching...and is Nik's Project 9 any good?


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on October 12, 2012, 08:33:19 AM

This is a different - but related - question which didn't warrant starting a new thread.  When did Nik leave the Hawklords then?  

That sort of passed me by I think.  (One does wonder quite how its possible to pee off as many bandmates as Nik managed to over the years...)

So...are the Hawklords still worth watching...and is Nik's Project 9 any good?


I didn't know he had left. I thought they played as The Hawklords if he was with them, and Group X if he wasn't? Last year I saw Group X and it was an excellent set, great fun, a run through many genuine classics. This year I saw The Hawklords and it was a bit flat. I assumed Nik was going to play with them, but he was taken ill just before the gig (he's better now). His illness on the night explains some of the flatness, no doubt, and also there was no Alan Davey. i would have liked to have gone and seen them the other night in Bilston, but couldn't.

Project 9 are quite good, but there was no Brainstorm, which surprised me.

Space Ritual last year were fantastic, that is the best Hawkwind connected band to see, I would think, if you get the chance. Nik was on top form that night.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on October 12, 2012, 08:49:22 AM
Just remembered another band I saw this year was the Eclectic Hasbeens, which was Alan Davey and various others, (including Danny from Pre-Med on a few songs) doing Hawkwind classics. They were really good, played all the choice stuff from Doremi/Space Ritual era, top notch.
They were a scratch band, so won't be touring, but it would be nice to see them at a festival again.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on October 12, 2012, 09:43:05 AM



I didn't know he had left. I thought they played as The Hawklords if he was with them, and Group X if he wasn't? Last year I saw Group X and it was an excellent set, great fun, a run through many genuine classics. This year I saw The Hawklords and it was a bit flat. I assumed Nik was going to play with them, but he was taken ill just before the gig (he's better now). His illness on the night explains some of the flatness, no doubt, and also there was no Alan Davey. i would have liked to have gone and seen them the other night in Bilston, but couldn't.



Well he definitely didn't play with them at The Robin 2 (the set is up at Dime and very good it is too).


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on October 12, 2012, 02:49:34 PM
I don't know then. If he has left, it passed me by too.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on October 12, 2012, 05:35:52 PM
I read something to the effect that Nik was still going to play with the Hawklords from time to time but not full time...he was never in the original Hawklords anyway, so aside from the need to find a name that did not include "Hawkwind", it seemed odd to me that Nik got involved..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on January 11, 2013, 07:53:49 PM
This seemed as good a place as any to post this.

Hawkwind are playing the whole of Warrior on the Edge of Time soon  :)

http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/tour%20dates.htm#Warrior_On_The_Edge_Of_Time_2013_


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on January 11, 2013, 07:57:39 PM

This seemed as good a place as any to post this.

Hawkwind are playing the whole of Warrior on the Edge of Time soon  :)

http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/tour%20dates.htm#Warrior_On_The_Edge_Of_Time_2013_


Shame that a remastered version of the original album is not on the horizon (allegedly the master tapes disappeared a while back)..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Addie on January 11, 2013, 08:04:34 PM

This seemed as good a place as any to post this.

Hawkwind are playing the whole of Warrior on the Edge of Time soon  :)

http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/tour%20dates.htm#Warrior_On_The_Edge_Of_Time_2013_


I think I'm gonna have to make the Rotherham gig.  8)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Brendan on January 11, 2013, 08:25:03 PM

This seemed as good a place as any to post this.

Hawkwind are playing the whole of Warrior on the Edge of Time soon  :)

http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/tour%20dates.htm#Warrior_On_The_Edge_Of_Time_2013_

Do we know who is in the line up touring this?


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on January 11, 2013, 08:29:07 PM


This seemed as good a place as any to post this.

Hawkwind are playing the whole of Warrior on the Edge of Time soon  :)

http://www.hawkwindmuseum.co.uk/tour%20dates.htm#Warrior_On_The_Edge_Of_Time_2013_

Do we know who is in the line up touring this?


The current lineup:

Dave Brock
Tim Blake
Richard Chadwick
Mr Dibs
Niall Hone


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: rich w on January 15, 2013, 12:40:05 PM
Esoteric/Atomhenge (Cherry Red) confirmed in an email out yesterday that they finally secured the rights and are working on a remastered reissue of the Warrior album , should be released around the time of the tour if all goes as planned.

Even if the U.K. masters no longer exist, which I believe is false (Dojo just didn't have access to them at the time of the last U.K. CD release). ATCO Records transferred the American 1st Gen master copies to Rob Godwin at Griffin records for the U.S. CD release in the 90's, so at worst those would be the source. The use of those masters is why the Griffin CD version is always more sought after than the DOJO/Castle version.

So now finally we will get a fully remastered issue on CD. Who knows what bonus materials are available, Esoteric are usually pretty sharp about finding everything they can.

Rich


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on January 15, 2013, 10:11:27 PM

Esoteric/Atomhenge (Cherry Red) confirmed in an email out yesterday that they finally secured the rights and are working on a remastered reissue of the Warrior album , should be released around the time of the tour if all goes as planned.

Even if the U.K. masters no longer exist, which I believe is false (Dojo just didn't have access to them at the time of the last U.K. CD release). ATCO Records transferred the American 1st Gen master copies to Rob Godwin at Griffin records for the U.S. CD release in the 90's, so at worst those would be the source. The use of those masters is why the Griffin CD version is always more sought after than the DOJO/Castle version.

So now finally we will get a fully remastered issue on CD. Who knows what bonus materials are available, Esoteric are usually pretty sharp about finding everything they can.

Rich


Thanks for the update..Like you I suspect the UK masters are available but are "lost" due to the ongoing feuds between various band members (Dojo I think had some connection with Nik and Dave Anderson)..Atomhenge have done an excellent job so far with the Charisma and beyond material, so fingers crossed for the WATEOT reissue..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 13, 2013, 04:37:28 PM
An update from the band (particularly pleasing news about the Steven Wilson 5.1 mix).

Warrior Press Release -

Atomhenge, the Cherry Red Records label managed by Esoteric Recordings, the home of the entire HAWKWIND catalogue released between 1975 and 1997, are very pleased to announce that the classic HAWKWIND album “WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME”
will be released in May 2013 as a newly remastered edition from the original stereo master tapes. Atomhenge label manager Mark Powell said; “Contrary to popular myth, the master tapes of this classic album were never lost. They remained in the United Artists vaults. The Atomhenge reissue will be the first ever CD edition to be taken from the original first generation master tapes. All previous editions have been taken from vinyl transfers or inferior copy master tapes”.

Aside from a single disc remastered edition, there will be two other expanded editions of the album. Mark Powell adds; “I’m extremely pleased to say that Steven Wilson has mixed the album into a stunning 5.1 Surround Sound mix from the original multi-track master tapes and has also undertaken a new stereo mix of the album which has an amazing depth and clarity whilst remaining faithful to the original release. “Warrior” is one of THE classic albums of the 1970s and is a land-mark album in Hawkwind’s history. The forthcoming reissues will do justice this magnificent record”.

Full details of the editions of “Warrior” will be announced in the coming weeks.
Cherry Red managing director, Adam Velasco added; “The album “Warrior on the Edge of Time” has been unavailable officially on CD for many years and it is our intention to make the forthcoming releases definitive editions in terms of audio remastering (from the original master tapes), content and packaging”.

Hawkwind will be touring in April 2013 performing WARRIOR ON THE EDGE OF TIME, with further dates planned later in the year. Confirmed dates are:

Saturday 30th March – Sunday 31st March
HawkEaster, Seaton Devon
Tuesday 2nd April - Cardiff The Coal Exchange
Wednesday 3rd April - Bath Komedia
Friday 5th April - Preston 53 Degrees
Saturday 6th April - Hawkwind headline Hard Rock Hell (HRH) Prog
Sunday 7th April - Norwich Epic Centre

Visit www.hawkwind.com for further details


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Andy on February 13, 2013, 05:00:20 PM
I got this in the USA many years ago. Sounds sonically fine to me.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: rich w on February 13, 2013, 05:25:14 PM
The USA Griffin Version is fine, the Dojo UK release was substandard having been mastered from vinyl (the drums sound particularly **** on that version). Cherry Red of course are making much out of the use of the original tapes, and I look forward to hearing the remaster.

I'm not to fussed about getting an extra 5.1 mix, hopefully though they will be able to dig out a few extras for those expanded editions.   Probably I would expect a Single Disc Edition, Two Disc Edition with bonus tracks, and a 3 Disc Edition with the 5.1 Audio on DVD. They'd also be silly not to do a Ltd Vinyl.

In recent years Warrior was available only as a dubious German Bootleg CD release via 'Rock Fever' which was in turn re-bootlegged for other releases including a Replica Sleeve Korean Issue. So it's good that there will be a final definitive release to squash all those boots out there. Looks like they're spending the money on it at least, and I've been very happy with all there Hawkwind releases so far.



Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 13, 2013, 05:32:32 PM

I'm not to fussed about getting an extra 5.1 mix



Generally I'd agree with you, but having heard what he's done with the King Crimson remasters, I definitely want to hear this.  the man's a genius.  I love Porcupine Tree anyway, but he's got different ears to the rest of us mere mortals...definitely.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on February 13, 2013, 09:21:29 PM
This is excellent news..As an aside apparently Warrior was not subject to the same deal as the previous UA/EMI albums and the band members retained control over the UK masters..apparently Lemmy was not keen on the album being reissued, but there we are, alls well that ends well, even with the latest hostilities between Brock and Turner over a proposed HuwL-L memorial gig..

Steve Wilson is the very person to do the remix, especially given the influence of the Hawks on P Tree's earlier works..Can't wait as Esoteric/Atomhenge have done fantastic work to date with the reissues..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 13, 2013, 09:48:53 PM

even with the latest hostilities between Brock and Turner over a proposed HuwL-L memorial gig..


To be fair the hostilities are mainly between Huw's family and Nik (with Brock firmly supporting them).  Whatever the rights and wrongs of it (and by all accounts - I know, I know - Huw despised Nik Turner) for Nik to ignore the family's stated wishes and go ahead with the show is way out of order.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on February 13, 2013, 10:25:23 PM


even with the latest hostilities between Brock and Turner over a proposed HuwL-L memorial gig..


To be fair the hostilities are mainly between Huw's family and Nik (with Brock firmly supporting them).  Whatever the rights and wrongs of it (and by all accounts - I know, I know - Huw despised Nik Turner) for Nik to ignore the family's stated wishes and go ahead with the show is way out of order.


I agree.

Back to happier matters: I hope there are some decent bonus tracks with Warrior and not just 50 remixes of Kings of Speed and Motorhead


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on March 22, 2013, 10:21:37 PM
Here are details re the new versions of Warrior to be released..I am a little dismayed by the bonus tracks, as I was hoping for more live stuff from the Warrior tour, not more Watchfield festival stuff.  Still, no doubt the 3 CD version will be acquired..

http://www.cherryred.co.uk/atomhenge-news.asp?newsid=394


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on April 02, 2013, 05:28:22 PM
Pay special attention to the 'plus special guests' line.  They'll all be there (it's contractual stuff).  Go see...great cause.

http://www.wedgewood-rooms.co.uk/WhatsOn/LiveMusic/SEASHEPHERDBENEFIT.aspx

In other news, watch carefully for developments in the Nik v Dave battle.  They'll be absolutely no sitting on the fence if what I hear is true.  Nik is out to destroy the band.  And I (and thousands of others) won't let him do it without a battle.  So there...

I'm wondering if I can pull off getting to see them in Preston on Friday?  Catch them while you can.  Seriously....


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on April 02, 2013, 05:40:31 PM
I thought/hoped some degree of peace and live and let live had broken out with the agreements to licence material to Cherry Red etc - clearly not and clearly another Wishbone Ash v. Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash/Oliver-Dawsons' Saxon v. Saxon etc battle looms..Lawyers will win..Dave and Nik not so much.   Good thing FC people are so decent otherwise the country would be flooded with Maart Allcock's FC (playing the classics from 1985-1995), Dave Mattack's L & L FC, Jerry Donahue's FC 9 etc etc..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Brendan on April 02, 2013, 06:17:25 PM

Pay special attention to the 'plus special guests' line.  They'll all be there (it's contractual stuff).  Go see...great cause.

http://www.wedgewood-rooms.co.uk/WhatsOn/LiveMusic/SEASHEPHERDBENEFIT.aspx

In other news, watch carefully for developments in the Nik v Dave battle.  They'll be absolutely no sitting on the fence if what I hear is true.  Nik is out to destroy the band.  And I (and thousands of others) won't let him do it without a battle.  So there...

I'm wondering if I can pull off getting to see them in Preston on Friday?  Catch them while you can.  Seriously....

Pay special attention to the 'plus special guests' line.  They'll all be there (it's contractual stuff).  Go see...great cause.

http://www.wedgewood-rooms.co.uk/WhatsOn/LiveMusic/SEASHEPHERDBENEFIT.aspx

In other news, watch carefully for developments in the Nik v Dave battle.  They'll be absolutely no sitting on the fence if what I hear is true.  Nik is out to destroy the band.  And I (and thousands of others) won't let him do it without a battle.  So there...

I'm wondering if I can pull off getting to see them in Preston on Friday?  Catch them while you can.  Seriously....


I have my tickets for Preston, my first Hawkwind gig, after discovering them after leaving school in 1986, and will be accompanied by the man who first introduced me to the wonders of space rock. Looking forward to it immensely. Anyone been to 53 Degrees, what's it like?


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Dad Volt on April 02, 2013, 06:26:50 PM



I have my tickets for Preston, my first Hawkwind gig, after discovering them after leaving school in 1986, and will be accompanied by the man who first introduced me to the wonders of space rock. Looking forward to it immensely. Anyone been to 53 Degrees, what's it like?


Pretty regular venue for us,beer is **** but the room is well laid out and decent sound system. Enjoy!


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on April 02, 2013, 06:54:32 PM
Nik Turner is out to destroy Hawkwind? Why? And how? By playing with them again? (I still shudder at the video I used to have of a 1980s lineup with Turner pretend-wiping his bottom on a US flag.)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Shane (Skirky) on April 02, 2013, 07:50:06 PM

Good thing FC people are so decent otherwise the country would be flooded with Maart Allcock's FC (playing the classics from 1985-1995),


You say that like it's a bad thing...  ;)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on April 02, 2013, 08:22:55 PM
I'm afraid I can't (at least in public) go into what I heard, but it's really not good and there is (at least, in my mind) a clear villain and a clear victim.  Time will tell.... ps I'm talking about Hawkwind, not Maart, obviously...  ;)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on April 02, 2013, 10:05:16 PM
Nice little piece on Hawkeaster in the Grauniad...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/apr/02/hawkwind-easter-hawkeaster-ed-vulliamy


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Andy Tuck on April 02, 2013, 11:08:08 PM
Good article. Really looking forward to seeing them on Saturday night.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Darren_j on April 04, 2013, 05:02:29 PM

In other news, watch carefully for developments in the Nik v Dave battle.  They'll be absolutely no sitting on the fence if what I hear is true.  


If you enjoy the music and want to see a version of the band live, I question whether it really is impossible to sit on the fence regarding band disputes. I would happily see both Andy Powell's and Martin Turner's Wishbone Ash, same with Nik Turner and Dave Brock. Who's behaved badly to who does not really play a major part in my choice of which gigs to book. For example, when it comes to Creedence Clearwater Revival I know who's been the troublemaker and who's behaved completely honorably but I would still prefer to see the troublemaker...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Paul on April 04, 2013, 11:07:44 PM
I have not seen the present Hawkwind, but I have seen Space Ritual, led by Nik Turner on a couple of occasions, and they put on a damn fine show.

Paul


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: bassline (Mike) on April 05, 2013, 03:35:36 PM
Have to say I was blown away by Space Ritual the one time I have seen them (supported by Arthur Brown - good night it was).Of the five times I've seen Mr Brock's lot, three times they were great and twice pretty bad.('spose I'll have to see SR another four times to get a balanced opinion.)
In the mean time I've been listening to the Atomhenge issues of Quark and Astounding Sounds along with Epocholipse a lot and loving every minute of it.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on April 08, 2013, 08:58:00 PM
I see Alan Davey has put together a band of ex Space Ritual members and others to perform "Space Ritual" in its entirety too..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on April 28, 2013, 07:18:10 PM
Just a reminder that Hawkwind (aka The Elves Of Silbury Hill) are playing a Benefit concert for Sea Shepherd at the Wedgewood Rooms in Portsmouth on Friday...and it's only £12.50.  It is the full current lineup playing.

http://www.wedgewood-rooms.co.uk/WhatsOn/LiveMusic/SEASHEPHERDBENEFIT.aspx

Update: Actually minor correction to that:  No Tim Blake, but possible 'special guest' (not sure who).


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on May 30, 2013, 10:10:05 PM
Anyone bought and listened to the RM Warrior set?  Any comments?


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: rich w on June 03, 2013, 04:31:53 PM
I have the 3 CD set, waiting to see If I can get the box set cheaper when it's gets the US domestic release in July.

Remastering is excellent. Eliminates all the problems of the earlier CDs. A very clear solid remaster. Bonus material on the 3CD is good, there is a Jam from Rockfield stusion in 75 called Dawn, alternate versions of a number of songs, the Watchfield Festival Tracks from 75 (Not the greatest...but the best quality they have been delivered in).  There is a whole new Steven Wilson mix of the entire album, which is different, and interesting. It adds about about a minute and a half to Magnu, which was edited out on the original LP. Have not listened to the 5.1 Mixes (Disc 3) yet, but I hear they are good.

Awesome. Worth every penny.  I hear a few people have some little complaints about the big box set. Though the biggest complaint was the price. If you need a vinyl version the box set is the way to go (if you have the cash)




Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on June 03, 2013, 05:33:45 PM
Thanks - looking forward to the 3 CD set..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: bassline (Mike) on June 03, 2013, 08:33:24 PM
Seventy Quid from Cherry Red for the box seems like good value to me,especially compared to the price of the Pink Floyd Immersion rip off sets.No unwanted scarves,marbals,coasters and collectors cards,plenty of unreleased stuff and decent memorabillia,fold our shield cover on the vinyl ...bargain!


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on June 05, 2013, 07:48:28 AM
The reissue of WOTEOT has charted much higher than last year's 'The Voice' winner, apparently...  :)

I have the 3 disc edition, and it sounds absolutely brilliant. There's so much going on in the tracks, and I never noticed all the violin before on songs like Magnu.



Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Addie on June 11, 2013, 06:43:11 PM
For the attention of our friends across the pond.

HAWKWIND NORTH AMERICAN TOUR OCTOBER 2013
World renowned space rock pioneers will soon embark on their first North American tour in nearly 20 years. At the helm of the group is leader and founding member Dave Brock, alongside long serving members Dead Fred, Tim Blake, Richard Chadwick, Mr Dibs and Niall Hone. This is Hawkwind’s longest standing, most stable line up in the band’s history. The tour commemorates the anniversary and re-release of the band's landmark 1975 album, "Warrior on the Edge of Time". Hawkwind will perform the album in it's entirety along with classic tracks selected from their 40+ year history. The tour will include a full light show, cosmic space dancers and psychedelic projections and is sure to be a far out experience. Joining the group as support on all dates is the Boston based psychedelic/progressive rock group PERHAPS.
Dates will be announced June 17th

Tickets go on sale June 22nd.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on June 11, 2013, 07:36:33 PM
Yikes..hope there are some west coast dates..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Andy Tuck on June 13, 2013, 08:18:22 PM
Here are the American dates:

October 07 - Toronto, ON @ Mod Club
October 08 - Montreal, QC Corona KinoPlex
October 10 - Boston, MA @ Wilbur Theater
October 11 - Philadelphia, PA @ Union Transfer
October 12 - Washington DC @ Rock n Roll Hotel
October 13 - New York City, NY @ Gramercy Theater
October 15 - Cleveland, OH @ Beachland Ballroom
October 16 - Chicago, IL @ Empty Bottle
October 18 - San Fransisco, CA @ Regency Theater
October 19 - Los Angeles, CA @ House of Blues
October 20 - Phoenix, AZ @ Mesa Arts Center
October 22 - Denver, CO @ Gothic Theater
October 24 - Austin, TX @ Mohawk
October 25 - Dallas, TX @ Granada Theater
October 26 - Houston, TX Fitzgerald's Houston



Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on June 13, 2013, 08:28:31 PM
Hmm - nothing that close and much as I love the band, cannot justify spending the time and money to fly down to San Fran or L.A...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Addie on September 17, 2013, 06:14:43 PM
Sigh, and so it goes on......

http://www.progrockmag.com/news/hawkwinds-fury-as-nik-turner-registers-us-name/


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on September 17, 2013, 06:30:54 PM
Good publicity for Nik ahead of his new album and the chance to ride the coat tails of publicity from the upcoming Brock and crew tour of North America.

The situation seems much the same as the Saxon v. Oliver and Dawson case.  After much expnediture of money on legal fees, the Biff Byford version of Saxon succeeded in over turning Oliver and Dawson registering "Saxon" as a trademark owned by them.  Oilver/Dawson still perform as "Oliver/Dawson Saxon" and the "official" version carries on as Saxon.

While I respect Nik's contributions to the classic era of the Hawks and some of the stuff he did after that, I have no respect for his current efforts to restart the feud with Dave Brock or to look to make money off the work Brock et al have put in to keeping the band afloat over the 30 odd years since Nik last performed with them.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Col D on September 18, 2013, 12:32:37 PM

Sigh, and so it goes on......
http://www.progrockmag.com/news/hawkwinds-fury-as-nik-turner-registers-us-name/


It's hard to know what Nik's game is at the moment. A mate of mine who has worked for him for years told me about this a while ago, but even as an 'insider' he couldn't understand Nik's motivation, which just seems deliberately antagonistic. I got the feeling that his antics are beginning to lose him support, even from within his own camp.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on September 18, 2013, 02:36:47 PM



It's hard to know what Nik's game is at the moment. A mate of mine who has worked for him for years told me about this a while ago, but even as an 'insider' he couldn't understand Nik's motivation, which just seems deliberately antagonistic.


I think you answer your own question there  :)  The man is after a financial settlement and/or the rights to the bandname in a Wishbone Ash type scenario.  I believe he's even using some of the same lawyers as Martin Turner (who I think actually had a far stronger case).  Effectively he's just trying to make life difficult for Dave Brock who he fell out with over his eviction in the early 80's.  And he's succeeding (Dave very nearly threw the towel in a while back I'm told from someone who's been working with him and his wife...at 72 he could certainly do without the hassle.  Nik's a bitter and stupid old man....  In future, just say 'no', kids.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on September 18, 2013, 05:42:19 PM
I note that by an amazing coincidence Nik is touring North America in October with a Space Ritual like poster advertising the tour as Nik Turner and in big letters "Ex Hawkwind"; in an even bigger coincidence, many of the dates are in the same cities that the real Hawkwind is playing.



Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on September 18, 2013, 09:57:28 PM
An interesting insight into the world of Nik's lawyer..

http://www.popehat.com/2010/07/06/its-not-ok-to-censor-them-but-its-ok-to-hate-them/


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on October 08, 2013, 09:47:33 PM
The Hawkwind US tour has been postponed due to Dave Brock suffering stress related illness which made it inadvisable for him to make the trek..hope to resschedule for 2014..Guess that will leave the field clear for the no doubt entirely coincidental tour of the US/Canada of Nik Turner's Hawkwind taking place at this very moment..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on October 08, 2013, 09:48:59 PM
I don't often wish ill on other human beings, but this may be one of those occasions.....


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on October 08, 2013, 10:14:44 PM
From what I've read elsewhere, Nik Turner's Fakewind (Touring with Geoff Tate's Fakeryche?) are playing bars, whereas Hawkwind were playing decent sized venues and sold out a few of them...

I've always though Turner was rubbish, anyway, ever since I had the misfortune to buy a video of the band when he was with them, playing very badly and prancing around on the stage.



Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on October 08, 2013, 10:22:25 PM
The comparison with the Tate Queensryche, uncoincidentally supported by the same record label as Nik T, is a good one.  The non Tate QR have complained that Tate has cheapened the name ahead of the court battle over payouts so that the value of the band name is reduced and less is due to the foudning members.  As part of the Tate ploy he has hired no name session men to tour with and to undercut the fee charged by the other guys for gigs.  

I like Nik's work with the Hawks up to 1975/6, but after that no: big mistake to get him back in 1982.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Neil on October 09, 2013, 03:58:01 AM
Well as a ticket holder for the San Francisco gig which is in a  very nice theater I was happy to see that they have rescheduled for March, as for Turner I could have got a ticket and he is playing a very nice venue in Portland but I bought Waterboys tickets instead for the same night. We had a massive roadtrip fun time planned for next week but March will be wonderful.

Neil


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on October 11, 2013, 12:21:53 AM
Seems Nik is wary of the backlash he has created:

http://blurtonline.com/news/a-message-from-nik-turner-hawkwind-co-founder-to-tour-us/



Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Addie on October 11, 2013, 12:35:54 AM

Seems Nik is wary of the backlash he has created:

http://blurtonline.com/news/a-message-from-nik-turner-hawkwind-co-founder-to-tour-us/




This is a copy of a statement  he made on facebook last week. It's hard for me, I like Nik and I think Space Ritual are (was?) a good act. He comes across as a nice guy when he does SRS and OTC but I also admire Dave but the latest incarnation of Hawkwind leave me cold.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on November 18, 2013, 07:46:40 PM
Important gig in Feb.  Hawkwind raising good money for good causes...and reclaiming Space Ritual  :)

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Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on January 10, 2014, 08:22:16 PM
Seems as good a place as any to post this.  If you're reading this thread, you probably want this:

http://www.shindig-magazine.com/Interstellar-Overdrive.html


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Addie on January 10, 2014, 08:25:38 PM

Seems as good a place as any to post this.  If you're reading this thread, you probably want this:

http://www.shindig-magazine.com/Interstellar-Overdrive.html


Oooh, I think I might partake in a bit of that.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on January 10, 2014, 08:33:13 PM


Seems as good a place as any to post this.  If you're reading this thread, you probably want this:

http://www.shindig-magazine.com/Interstellar-Overdrive.html


Oooh, I think I might partake in a bit of that.


If it's as good as the one they put out about the ISB (and 'psych-folk' in general) last year it should be a corker...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on January 10, 2014, 08:36:33 PM



Seems as good a place as any to post this.  If you're reading this thread, you probably want this:

http://www.shindig-magazine.com/Interstellar-Overdrive.html


Oooh, I think I might partake in a bit of that.


If it's as good as the one they put out about the ISB (and 'psych-folk' in general) last year it should be a corker...


I must get this even if its a huge expense.  This magazine is like the Sirens of Titan and I feel my resistance is crumbling..

Ok..its just over $100 for 8 copies..so that isn't too crazy.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: bassline (Mike) on January 10, 2014, 09:11:45 PM
Very nice.Except that, that picture of 'Pink Floyd' live in the 'Reluctant Space Rockers' is Dantalion's Chariot or somebody of that kidney.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on January 10, 2014, 09:38:23 PM




Seems as good a place as any to post this.  If you're reading this thread, you probably want this:

http://www.shindig-magazine.com/Interstellar-Overdrive.html


Oooh, I think I might partake in a bit of that.


If it's as good as the one they put out about the ISB (and 'psych-folk' in general) last year it should be a corker...


I must get this even if its a huge expense.  This magazine is like the Sirens of Titan and I feel my resistance is crumbling..

Ok..its just over $100 for 8 copies..so that isn't too crazy.


I'll be totally honest and state that I don't think the actual magazine itself is quite as good as it thinks it is.  There are some great articles in there...but a load of dross too.  The 'special editions' I've seen are outstanding.  


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on January 16, 2014, 09:05:15 PM
Looks as if the Hawks have cancelled the rearranged US west coast dates for 2014, although the "west coast" seemed to end at San Fran on the proposed itinerary.  Probably be cheaper to fly to England to see them for me.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 19, 2014, 06:35:23 PM
Bit of a long shot, but does anybody have a spare ticket for Saturday's fund raiser?  A friend of mine didn't get one and now they're sold out and there only appear to be 'pairs' available anywhere....


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 19, 2014, 10:20:22 PM

Bit of a long shot, but does anybody have a spare ticket for Saturday's fund raiser?  A friend of mine didn't get one and now they're sold out and there only appear to be 'pairs' available anywhere....


All sorted now...thankee  :)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 22, 2014, 07:46:54 AM
The rumour is Brian Blessed is narrating Sonic Attack....which could be amusing!


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Jim on February 22, 2014, 09:48:54 AM

The rumour is Brian Blessed is narrating Sonic Attack....which could be amusing!


there will certainly be bleeding from orifices ::)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 23, 2014, 04:36:23 PM


The rumour is Brian Blessed is narrating Sonic Attack....which could be amusing!


there will certainly be bleeding from orifices ::)


In the end, it was just his voice, not him.  Although we did get John Etheridge who was actually on stage for a fair chunk of the Hawkwind set!

Hawkwind weren't at their very best (even for this lineup) but it was great fun, and most pleasing of all was to see Brock looking very very happy and very very well.  A great gig.  

ps It's amazing to see how Dibs has turned around from being 'the bass player' into such a confident front man in the 4 and a half years since I last saw them.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Addie on February 23, 2014, 06:00:52 PM


ps It's amazing to see how Dibs has turned around from being 'the bass player' into such a confident front man in the 4 and a half years since I last saw them.


Can't take to him, really no rhyme or reason to it but I just can't.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 23, 2014, 10:44:42 PM



ps It's amazing to see how Dibs has turned around from being 'the bass player' into such a confident front man in the 4 and a half years since I last saw them.


Can't take to him, really no rhyme or reason to it but I just can't.


I think I probably felt the same when I first saw him, but I've warmed to him - and I have close friends who he has done great acts of kindness and generosity to.  I think (well I know) he's a good 'un...  :)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on February 25, 2014, 09:44:55 PM
I see the North America tour is not going ahead at all due to a myriad of issues..can't see it happening now, ever.  Perhaps Brock and Turner will have to come to an accommodation like Andy Scott and Steve Priest have with Sweet in the rest of the world/North America?


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 25, 2014, 10:16:54 PM
There were several people with connections not a million miles away from the band openly talking about Hawkwind drawing to a close soon at and around the gig.

Maybe that's why Brock looked like he was enjoying himself so much?  I wonder...


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on February 25, 2014, 11:03:37 PM
It wouldn't be a huge surprise if its no longer enjoyable and or too much trouble.  Will be a shame, but better for the band to go out on a high (ho ho)..


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on February 26, 2014, 08:21:40 PM
In happier Hawk related news, Atomhenge/Cherry Red have a 5 CD set of the Flicknife years coming out in April with bonus tracks.  


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Sir Martin on February 27, 2014, 05:18:38 PM

There were several people with connections not a million miles away from the band openly talking about Hawkwind drawing to a close soon at and around the gig.

Maybe that's why Brock looked like he was enjoying himself so much?  I wonder...


I wonder if that is why their music has started cropping up on adverts - top up for the pension plan.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on February 27, 2014, 05:35:15 PM
I know Masters of the Universe was used in a Ford ad; what other ads have the Hawks appeared in?


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 27, 2014, 09:05:45 PM


There were several people with connections not a million miles away from the band openly talking about Hawkwind drawing to a close soon at and around the gig.

Maybe that's why Brock looked like he was enjoying himself so much?  I wonder...


I wonder if that is why their music has started cropping up on adverts - top up for the pension plan.


I imagine the lawyers fees to work out how the profits are distributed would remove the majority of any potential income in one fell swoop, bit what do i know...  :)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Jim on February 27, 2014, 09:31:20 PM

I know Masters of the Universe was used in a Ford ad; what other ads have the Hawks appeared in?


they are using silver machine to sell something or other at the moment


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: jude on February 27, 2014, 09:38:22 PM


I know Masters of the Universe was used in a Ford ad; what other ads have the Hawks appeared in?


they are using silver machine to sell something or other at the moment


Yes I saw that on Channel 4, but can't remember what it was advertising. Not sure that it was very effective in that case... ::)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on February 27, 2014, 09:45:41 PM



I know Masters of the Universe was used in a Ford ad; what other ads have the Hawks appeared in?


they are using silver machine to sell something or other at the moment


Yes I saw that on Channel 4, but can't remember what it was advertising. Not sure that it was very effective in that case... ::)


Here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsSIcVwTeMc

ps some lovely pics from Shepherds Bush here http://blitz.sapo.pt/hawkwind-ao-vivo-no-shepherds-bush-empire-londres=f91003


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Paul on February 27, 2014, 10:05:30 PM



I know Masters of the Universe was used in a Ford ad; what other ads have the Hawks appeared in?


they are using silver machine to sell something or other at the moment


Yes I saw that on Channel 4, but can't remember what it was advertising. Not sure that it was very effective in that case... ::)


I think it is the outer space night that is coming up soon.

First single I ever bought, Silver Machine.

Paul


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on February 27, 2014, 10:27:11 PM




I know Masters of the Universe was used in a Ford ad; what other ads have the Hawks appeared in?


they are using silver machine to sell something or other at the moment


Yes I saw that on Channel 4, but can't remember what it was advertising. Not sure that it was very effective in that case... ::)



Here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsSIcVwTeMc

ps some lovely pics from Shepherds Bush here http://blitz.sapo.pt/hawkwind-ao-vivo-no-shepherds-bush-empire-londres=f91003


That was a great set list..

If the numerous ex Hawkwinders/Lords from 1976 to 1995 were able to agree a royalty split with Cherry Red its not beyond the realms of possibility agreement could be reached for commercials..now if only they could work on agreeing the Brixton Academy 30th anniversary show tapes/film release


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on July 25, 2014, 12:46:58 AM
I see that "Nik Turner's Hawkwind" are coming to the (lousy) Venue here in September.  Although Nik's use of "Hawkwind" grates somewhat given he hasn't performed with the band for about 30 years, I am kind of tempted to go (so long as Al Atkins' Judas Priest or Myf Isaac's Budgie are not on that evening).  Has anyone seen Nik perform recently?  Will this be a waste of $25??


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Austin S on July 25, 2014, 04:25:28 AM

I see that "Nik Turner's Hawkwind" are coming to the (lousy) Venue here in September.  Although Nik's use of "Hawkwind" grates somewhat given he hasn't performed with the band for about 30 years, I am kind of tempted to go (so long as Al Atkins' Judas Priest or Myf Isaac's Budgie are not on that evening).  Has anyone seen Nik perform recently?  Will this be a waste of $25??


I've got the same opportunity, though I rather like the venue (small brewery) and the price is even lower ($12, I believe). It's a brief jaunt, about an hour's drive, but, all the same, I'm also curious to hear if anybody's seen Nik perform as of late.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Paul on July 25, 2014, 08:58:05 PM
 I saw Space Ritual a few years ago, which is what Nik normally calls his band, and they were very good. They seemed to have more ex Hawkwind members in than Hawkwind did at the time. :-)

Paul


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on July 25, 2014, 10:15:02 PM

 I saw Space Ritual a few years ago, which is what Nik normally calls his band, and they were very good. They seemed to have more ex Hawkwind members in than Hawkwind did at the time. :-)

Paul



Different band, and they've since all fallen out and/or been sacked by Nik.  Nik Turner's Hawkwind is full of Nik and lots of 12 year old Hawkwind fans.  Probably.

Just say no and send a tenner to Dave Brock instead.  Now he is a nice man.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Mr Cat (Lewis) on July 25, 2014, 10:25:28 PM


 I saw Space Ritual a few years ago, which is what Nik normally calls his band, and they were very good. They seemed to have more ex Hawkwind members in than Hawkwind did at the time. :-)

Paul



Different band, and they've since all fallen out and/or been sacked by Nik.  Nik Turner's Hawkwind is full of Nik and lots of 12 year old Hawkwind fans.  Probably.

Just say no and send a tenner to Dave Brock instead.  Now he is a nice man.


Ho ho..It looks like NT's H has 2 members of the UK Subs and a couple of others.

Although NT's SR did have a number of former Hawkwind members at one time, peculiarly few of them ever played on the albums the setlist was based on!  



Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on May 13, 2017, 02:13:25 PM
Thought I'd post this here rather than open a new topic, not sure if anyone will be interested, but...............

Been listening to the new Hawkwind CD, Into The Woods, heard it a couple of times and it is quite good. Not, imo, as good as The Machine Stops, last years superb effort, but for a band that has been around for 47 years (well, Dave has) it's great that they are still making good music, are not just going through the motions and living off past glories. Dibs apparently didn't have much to do with the new album because he was ill at the time, which is a pity, he's brought a lot to the party in recent years.

The production isn't great though, vocals are too low a fair amount of the time, some strange clicks on one track, which might belong, or possibly not. A couple of tracks that seem quite weak, although maybe they are "growers". Anyway, when the heck have Hawkwind ever been about consistency?  8)

They are still great live, or they were on last years tour. The new bass player is a bit good. There is plenty of life in the old boys yet.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on June 29, 2017, 10:59:57 PM
Hawkwind have won the trademark dispute that has been rumbling on in the U.S. for a while. Great news.

Nik Turner has lost the case, and hopefully a fair chunk of his bank balance. ;D

Dave Brock is the true spirit of Hawkwind, so nice to see common sense prevailing.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on August 06, 2020, 01:01:56 PM
Not worth starting a new thread over, but if anyone wants one of the 'sold out' luxury copies (which are bloody marvellous) of the new Hawkwind book then the publisher has just put a few more up for sale https://strangeattractor.greedbag.com/buy/hawkwind-days-of-the-underground/


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on October 19, 2020, 11:57:30 AM
A not entirely awful Grauniad piece from today: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2020/oct/19/why-hawkwind-were-the-great-radicals-of-1970s-rock

Incidentally, the new Hawkwind Light Orchestra album is well worth a listen.  It's flawed, of course, but decent....


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Albie on October 20, 2020, 12:07:39 AM
Interesting article. Sums up how I feel/felt about them. First time I saw them on TOTP as a ten year old I found them scary and unsettling. I had no idea what the Hell they were but I could tell they meant it.
Psychedelic Warlords is the perfect song to use as a soundtrack to our mid 70s urban decay and societal breakdown.


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: Harbottle (Martin) on October 22, 2020, 12:17:07 AM
I like the stuff they did in the 90s, especially Space Bandits and one called 'It is the business of the future to be dangerous'.

The latest one by the Light Orchestra is OK, but it was mainly background music. I liked The Machine Stops, but not the vocals on some of the tracks. (Not sure who the singer was, because I gave reading the liner notes to see who was in the band the day they recorded the album.)


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on October 22, 2020, 06:19:05 AM

The latest one by the Light Orchestra is OK, but it was mainly background music. I liked The Machine Stops, but not the vocals on some of the tracks. (Not sure who the singer was, because I gave reading the liner notes to see who was in the band the day they recorded the album.)



It's all Dave vocals on the latest one, I think.  [Update: not sure actually, Magnus is also listed on vocals - it's only Dave, Richard and Magnus on the album, hence the band name]


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: davidmjs on September 03, 2021, 07:55:06 PM
The tour is off (postponed) but Palladium show remains... From FB

Hello Folks,
We are really saddened to have to let you know that due to current issues surrounding live events, which are completely out of our control, our September Somnia tour has been postponed..... New dates will be announced asap.
Please note that this will not effect our Arrival In Dystopia show at the London Palladium which will go ahead on Thursday 28th October as planned https://lwtheatres.co.uk/whats-on/hawkwind/
After the elation of playing live again at Hawkfest and Beautiful Days, this has come as a heavy blow....
Lets all look to the future.....We will get through this together!


Title: Re: Hawkwind Question
Post by: PaulT on September 04, 2021, 08:45:50 AM
Not being an avid fan, I must ask - is Somnia the band's female dancer?  ;)