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Title: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 04, 2007, 05:26:04 PM
Penury awaits.

The new Pentangle box set 'The Time Has Come 1967-1973' is released on Jan 15.

There's a fantastic full page 4-star review in the Feb Mojo...the only gripe seems to be that it wasn't 5 discs long!

Sad as this fact make me feel, I don't imagine anybody else will be able to match this price...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Time-Has-Come-Pentangle/dp/B000GG4T5K



Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on January 04, 2007, 05:44:15 PM
Isn't this like the 5th Pentangle box set? I believe I own two of them.
What is this to justify buying it?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 04, 2007, 06:05:13 PM

Isn't this like the 5th Pentangle box set? I believe I own two of them.
What is this to justify buying it?


Stand in Smiths - read the review in Mojo.  You'll want it.

So what Pentangle box sets have you got then?  I can't think of one beyond the 3-CD collection....??


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Rory. on January 04, 2007, 06:19:31 PM
When I was 15, my art teacher taught me Bert Janch's version of Anji during the lunch breaks, I've been hooked on him and the rest of Pentangle ever since.

If you have all the music already I can think of no reason to pay for the music exec's coke habits by buying the same songs all over again  ;D.

I'm a bit fed up with all the repackaging that goes on


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on January 04, 2007, 06:24:24 PM


Isn't this like the 5th Pentangle box set? I believe I own two of them.
What is this to justify buying it?


Stand in Smiths - read the review in Mojo.  You'll want it.

So what Pentangle box sets have you got then?  I can't think of one beyond the 3-CD collection....??
I'm not sure what you mean by "Stand in Smiths" ... is the Mojo review online?
Pentangling
Light Flight: The Anthology (I guess this isn't really a box set ... )
The Pentangle Family
OK, so "5th" was a definite exaggeration.   ::)


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Anji on January 04, 2007, 06:27:02 PM

So what Pentangle box sets have you got then?  I can't think of one beyond the 3-CD collection....??
I'm not sure what you mean by "Stand in Smiths" ... is the Mojo review online?
Pentangling
Light Flight: The Anthology (I guess this isn't really a box set ... )
The Pentangle Family
OK, so "5th" was a definite exaggeration.   ::)
[/quote]

We've told you a million times to stop exaggerating.................. ::) ::) ;D


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Stationary M25 Traveller on January 04, 2007, 06:36:46 PM
£29.99 inc free P&P at Play.com


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 04, 2007, 06:42:14 PM

£29.99 inc free P&P at Play.com


Which is 2 quid more than the Amazon link I quoted!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on January 04, 2007, 06:42:56 PM
I've found this:
http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=93;-1;-1;-1&sku=534797
17.99 quid :)

I think I will want it.  8)


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Barry on January 04, 2007, 06:43:35 PM
http://www.foxy.co.uk/catalogue/cd_music/6662539/Time%20Has%20Come%20The/

£21.99 @ Foxy

http://www.asda-entertainment.co.uk/asda/8554478.product

£26.97 @ Asda

Wouldn't touch HMV with a bargepole after the trouble they gave us (and lies they told us) at Christmas


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 04, 2007, 06:47:24 PM



Isn't this like the 5th Pentangle box set? I believe I own two of them.
What is this to justify buying it?


Stand in Smiths - read the review in Mojo.  You'll want it.

So what Pentangle box sets have you got then?  I can't think of one beyond the 3-CD collection....??
I'm not sure what you mean by "Stand in Smiths" ... is the Mojo review online?
Pentangling
Light Flight: The Anthology (I guess this isn't really a box set ... )
The Pentangle Family
OK, so "5th" was a definite exaggeration.   ::)


Stand in W.H. Smith's (a renowned...nay, well known anyway) UK newsagents.

Semantics probably but to my mind:

Pentangling is a 3-disc compilation of the band
Light Flight is a 2-disc compilation of the band
The Pentangle family is a 2-disc compilation of the band and it's solo artists.

and this is the first proper Box set - a 4-CD set that includes some material already released but a weath of unreleased material, much of it live, along with a decent book(let) and biographical material.  Like a box set should do...



Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 04, 2007, 06:49:00 PM

http://www.foxy.co.uk/catalogue/cd_music/6662539/Time%20Has%20Come%20The/

£21.99 @ Foxy

http://www.asda-entertainment.co.uk/asda/8554478.product

£26.97 @ Asda

Wouldn't touch HMV with a bargepole after the trouble they gave us (and lies they told us) at Christmas


Whoops!!  I can't believe they are doing a 4-CD set so cheap...the usual rate is about 39.99...but I'm glad they are...thanks!



Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Rory. on January 04, 2007, 06:50:41 PM

and this is the first proper Box set - a 4-CD set that includes some material already released but a weath of unreleased material, much of it live, along with a decent book(let) and a biographical material.  Like a box set should do...




That is a different proposition altogether, and I've got fifty quids worth of virgin/ borders vouchers from Christmas  :D


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 04, 2007, 06:51:43 PM

http://www.foxy.co.uk/catalogue/cd_music/6662539/Time%20Has%20Come%20The/

£21.99 @ Foxy

http://www.asda-entertainment.co.uk/asda/8554478.product

£26.97 @ Asda

Wouldn't touch HMV with a bargepole after the trouble they gave us (and lies they told us) at Christmas


Actually just noticed the release date on Foxy as late February...ummmm, somebody's wrong...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: jude on January 04, 2007, 06:52:40 PM
All put together by Colin Harper

http://www.colin-harper.com/

There's a lot of info there about it on the CD reissues page.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on January 04, 2007, 06:54:25 PM
Wouldn't touch HMV with a bargepole after the trouble they gave us (and lies they told us) at Christmas
My main reason for citing it was it was the only place I found that provided even a few details beyond the track listing.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 04, 2007, 06:55:47 PM

All put together by Colin Harper

http://www.colin-harper.com/

There's a lot of info there about it on the CD reissues page.


Thanks Jude - although it's only succeeding in making me drool even more!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Rory. on January 04, 2007, 06:55:50 PM
I've just found it on US Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Time-Has-Come-1967-1973-Pentangle/dp/B000EPF8LC

$19.95  :o with the current exchange rate, that makes it just over a tenner! even with postage and duty it will come in around £15


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 04, 2007, 06:56:50 PM

I've just found it on US Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Time-Has-Come-1967-1973-Pentangle/dp/B000EPF8LC

$19.95  :o with the current exchange rate, that makes it just over a tenner! even with postage and duty it will come in around £15


There has to be a SNAFU about these prices...they can't be right.  No new 4-CD box set is that cheap is it?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on January 04, 2007, 07:07:41 PM

... OK, so "5th" was a definite exaggeration.   ::)
We've told you a million times to stop exaggerating.................. ::) ::) ;D

LOL
Some of us have no recourse ...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on January 04, 2007, 07:18:42 PM

All put together by Colin Harper

http://www.colin-harper.com/

There's a lot of info there about it on the CD reissues page.
Excellent! I would never have found this! Many thanks.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on January 04, 2007, 07:19:37 PM


I've just found it on US Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Time-Has-Come-1967-1973-Pentangle/dp/B000EPF8LC

$19.95  :o with the current exchange rate, that makes it just over a tenner! even with postage and duty it will come in around £15


There has to be a SNAFU about these prices...they can't be right.  No new 4-CD box set is that cheap is it?

... especially an inport?!?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Rory. on January 04, 2007, 07:34:32 PM



I've just found it on US Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Time-Has-Come-1967-1973-Pentangle/dp/B000EPF8LC

$19.95  :o with the current exchange rate, that makes it just over a tenner! even with postage and duty it will come in around £15


There has to be a SNAFU about these prices...they can't be right.  No new 4-CD box set is that cheap is it?

... especially an inport?!?



I don't really know the in and outs, but I buy lots of luthiers stuff from the states and generally the duty is approx. 20% of the cost of the items. I can't see why it should be any different from CD's - yes we've been getting ripped off on imports all these years - A certain well known singer told me he gets the same amount in royalties whatever the punter pays for the music


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Barry on January 04, 2007, 07:35:49 PM
If its a postal import it depends on the value.  I think this one gets away with it, doesn't it?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Nick on January 05, 2007, 01:35:42 AM

A certain well known singer told me he gets the same amount in royalties whatever the punter pays for the music


Interesting. We had this post from Squeezy John Spiers a few months ago, which gives a different story...


Hi there
Just to put the record straight on buying from the artist or amazon ...

I costs between 8-9 quid for anyone (including the band) to buy the CDs from a distribution company or the record company.  Normal markup for shops is about 50% so that's why CDs cost about £12-£14 in HMV etc. unless they are on special offer.  Amazon is just like tescos or other big companies - they will sell with just a £1 markup because they are so huge that they can afford to negotiate lower prices with the distribution companies - there's nothing wrong with that - but if you have a small friendly local independent cd shop then they simply can't compete with that kind of big company behaviour ... and my advice is that if you have a local record shop then you would probably be doing yourself a favour in the long-run by buying from them at a higher price because they would go out of business if you just went to Amazon for a discount of £3.

The same applies to bands who sell their own stuff - if you buy from our website then Bellowhead will make about £5 and if you buy from Amazon - the royalty we get is about 70p ... and you have to remember that it's split 11 ways!!


Cheers

Nick


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Rory. on January 05, 2007, 08:32:32 AM


A certain well known singer told me he gets the same amount in royalties whatever the punter pays for the music


Interesting. We had this post from Squeezy John Spiers a few months ago, which gives a different story...


Hi there
Just to put the record straight on buying from the artist or amazon ...

I costs between 8-9 quid for anyone (including the band) to buy the CDs from a distribution company or the record company.  Normal markup for shops is about 50% so that's why CDs cost about £12-£14 in HMV etc. unless they are on special offer.  Amazon is just like tescos or other big companies - they will sell with just a £1 markup because they are so huge that they can afford to negotiate lower prices with the distribution companies - there's nothing wrong with that - but if you have a small friendly local independent cd shop then they simply can't compete with that kind of big company behaviour ... and my advice is that if you have a local record shop then you would probably be doing yourself a favour in the long-run by buying from them at a higher price because they would go out of business if you just went to Amazon for a discount of £3.

The same applies to bands who sell their own stuff - if you buy from our website then Bellowhead will make about £5 and if you buy from Amazon - the royalty we get is about 70p ... and you have to remember that it's split 11 ways!!


Cheers

Nick


Hi Nick, I can only go on what I was told, it wouldn't be the first time I've missunderstood what I've been told and went blundering on in blissfull ignorance. As to the benefits of selling cds from their own website, that is true. Another friend and neighbour plays in a band and they were put onto this fact by a certain Mr Lakeman who was supporting them on tour.


As stated elsewhere, I'm lucky enough to be spoiled for choice in Brighton as far as independant record shops go, but the funny thing is that my shop of choice is actually cheaper than the big chains  ??? that's not the main reason I go, it's the fact they have everything I want on vinyl and are a good bunch of guys


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Nick on January 05, 2007, 01:43:23 PM
It's always interesting to think how we are paying the wages of these guys. When a band is large and successful that relationship seems distant and we think we're dealing with the record companies not the bands (which invariably we are.) When the band is small though and dependent on its own marketing skills it does make sense that the more direct the channel between buyer and band the more money the band will make, hence the more likely the band will be able to afford to keep going and give us good music.

Cheers

Nick


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 05, 2007, 04:24:32 PM
Another 4-star review - this time in Uncut.  Also includes a few great photo's and an interesting little interview with Bert and John....  There's also a track on the cover CD.....


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 18, 2007, 10:13:37 PM
I get the feeling the release date on this beauty may have been shifted backwards?  Amazon are now stating : Not available and are sitting on my order... anyone else ordered it with anyone else and had any progress with their order?  Or know a new release date?  


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on January 19, 2007, 10:24:27 PM
March 13th according to the Amazon link at the top of this thread - but it's still there to order at that silly price!

How much P&P did you pay for your order?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: AdrianW on January 20, 2007, 02:50:27 AM
The Amazon page now reads We are currently unable to offer this title. The label may be out of stock. If you would like to purchase this title, we recommend that you occasionally check this page to see if it has become available.

Still available for pre-order at HMV.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Paul on January 20, 2007, 11:12:50 AM
Johnny Walker gave it a plug this morning, standing in for Brian Matthews on Sounds of the Sixties.

Paul


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Daniel A on January 20, 2007, 07:49:00 PM
I believe this set has the lively opening theme to "The Ballad of Tam Lin" (when the time comes) that I enquired about in another thread and previously unreleased as well as their version of Tam Lin... I'll probably wait until Amazon  have it in. (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Time-Has-Come-Pentangle/dp/B000EPF8LC/sr=1-8/qid=1169321305/ref=sr_1_8/203-1937874-1539939?ie=UTF8&s=music/strangerover-21)




Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on January 20, 2007, 08:34:22 PM
Available as of now at both the UK and US Amazon sites listed earlier in this thread.

UK - Release February 26th @ £27.99
USA - Release March 13th @ $19.99

Pay yer money & take yer choice!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 20, 2007, 08:38:01 PM

Available as of now at both the UK and US Amazon sites listed earlier in this thread.

UK - Release February 26th @ £27.99
USA - Release March 13th @ $19.99

Pay yer money & take yer choice!


That is the most ridiculous price differential I have ever seen.  That equates to £10.12 according to my currency converter...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Jim on January 20, 2007, 10:12:19 PM

Available as of now at both the UK and US Amazon sites listed earlier in this thread.

UK - Release February 26th @ £27.99
USA - Release March 13th @ $19.99

Pay yer money & take yer choice!


yet another perfect example of rip off britain, and another reason why folks download


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on January 26, 2007, 09:55:06 PM
Now due in the UK on 12th March.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 26, 2007, 09:57:36 PM


Available as of now at both the UK and US Amazon sites listed earlier in this thread.

UK - Release February 26th @ £27.99
USA - Release March 13th @ $19.99

Pay yer money & take yer choice!


yet another perfect example of rip off britain, and another reason why folks download


I actually think the UK price is very very reasonable - I'd even say cheap.  The US price is just plain wrong!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on January 26, 2007, 09:59:40 PM
well, I've paid it - even with duty, etc.....it'll be less than £20!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Rory. on January 26, 2007, 10:33:37 PM

well, I've paid it - even with duty, etc.....it'll be less than £20!


Chris, without wishing to be rude, could you let us know the final price please? I usually get duty bills 4 - 6 weeks after I buy stuff from the States, but this would be interesting, considering the fact that from the first link they were saying it was an import, ie it has to cross the pond twice. If this is the case, I'd like to know how the price differential is justified  ???


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on January 26, 2007, 10:49:22 PM
I still think it's a mistake which will be rectified by the time it comes to release.  They'll be losing about 6-10 quid on every set they sell at that rate...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Rory. on January 27, 2007, 08:46:58 AM

I still think it's a mistake which will be rectified by the time it comes to release.  They'll be losing about 6-10 quid on every set they sell at that rate...


perhaps they're making an extra 6-10 quid on every set here that the US consumers wouldn't stomach?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on January 27, 2007, 10:49:14 AM

Chris, without wishing to be rude, could you let us know the final price please?


Not a rude request at all - it is definitely a public-interest query. Will do. It is still listed at Amazon USA at $19.99 as a list price.

(http://ec2.images-amazon.com/images/P/B000EPF8LC.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_V46648468_.jpg)


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on February 02, 2007, 12:18:20 PM
Amazon.com is now showing TWO entries...one priced at $19.99 (release date Mar 13) and the other at the more realistic price of $57.99 (release date Mar 15).  

Will be interesting to see what you get if you order(ed) the lesser priced item...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on February 03, 2007, 03:02:45 PM
Could be an argument as that pic above was shown against the $19.99 one!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Nick on February 03, 2007, 04:53:29 PM
Perhaps you only get the cover?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Kathryn on February 19, 2007, 11:03:42 PM
When a family member recently asked what I'd like for my upcoming birthday I requested the upcoming 4 disc set by Pentangle but suggested she share the cost with someone as I thought the $58 too much for her to spend (not that I'm not worth every penny and more....)She told me yesterday she had ordered from Amazon--4discs $19.99!! We'll see what arrives next month but she is confident she ordered correctly.
Since most of my Pentangle collection is on vinyl and my old turntable has finally given up the ghost I'm really looking forward to it.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Sir Robert Peel on February 19, 2007, 11:06:35 PM
That sound like a bargain, Kathryn - but, more to the point, what a magnificent present for you.

Happy listening.  :-*

Sir Robert Peel


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Hester on February 20, 2007, 12:27:07 AM
CDN$ 62.99 and won't be released until March 14th.

Hmmm... maybe I'll put it on my birthday wish list.  All I have is Early Classics.

Cheers, Hester


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on February 20, 2007, 09:13:31 AM

When a family member recently asked what I'd like for my upcoming birthday I requested the upcoming 4 disc set by Pentangle but suggested she share the cost with someone as I thought the $58 too much for her to spend (not that I'm not worth every penny and more....)She told me yesterday she had ordered from Amazon--4discs $19.99!! We'll see what arrives next month but she is confident she ordered correctly.


THat's the same as I ordered from Amazon US.....it had better be what they advertise!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on February 20, 2007, 11:24:46 AM


When a family member recently asked what I'd like for my upcoming birthday I requested the upcoming 4 disc set by Pentangle but suggested she share the cost with someone as I thought the $58 too much for her to spend (not that I'm not worth every penny and more....)She told me yesterday she had ordered from Amazon--4discs $19.99!! We'll see what arrives next month but she is confident she ordered correctly.


THat's the same as I ordered from Amazon US.....it had better be what they advertise!
Yes, I ordered it as well. Hopefully it's not a bait and switch ...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on February 20, 2007, 11:36:10 AM
This pricing business with Amazon is really bizarre - Amazon.com currently has 3 listings - $39.49 and two at $57.99, whilst Amazon.co.uk currently shows it at £17.99 (and that is what I have ordered, ever grateful that they have already cancelled my earlier order at 27.99).  There seems to be a serious balls-up somewhere or other!  The sad thing is that with the new Fairport box coming out, and this one being delayed they (whoever they are?) are conspiring once again to lose Pentangle whatever publicity they might have been expecting to gain from the BBC bash...  


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 02, 2007, 01:30:23 PM
Pentangle get the Mojo treatment in the April issue of the magazine...about 5 pages...nice pics, so-so piece..  


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: jude on March 02, 2007, 07:28:47 PM
This might explain all the delays.....
http://www.colin-harper.com/


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 02, 2007, 07:34:40 PM

This might explain all the delays.....
http://www.colin-harper.com/


Sorry - I must be having a dense day/week/lifetime today...is there anything particular in there that explains the most recent delays, Jude?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on March 02, 2007, 07:40:18 PM


This might explain all the delays.....
http://www.colin-harper.com/


Sorry - I must be having a dense day/week/lifetime today...is there anything particular in there that explains the most recent delays, Jude?
Could this be it? From the News link:
Quote
Pete Paphides, a very fine writer with whom I’ve no axe to grind, was roped in late in the day to write a couple of thousand words of enthusiastic puffery by way of introduction to my apparently ‘downbeat’ 45,000 word history of the group… which has, itself, apparently now been edited in half. I wasn’t offered a chance to see the finished remnant before printing/manufacturing and I must admit to feeling very numb about that. A situation I will never allow to happen again. As much as I love the Pentangle’s music it has, I’m afraid, been the shabbiest project I’ve ever been involved in and I’m not sure I’ll ever read the version of the essay that has my name on it. But the band seem to have reunited for a last hurrah largely on the back of it and the press coverage, already, has been substantial with more to come (hats off to PR maestro Mick Houghton for that). So good luck to them, one and all. For me, on the periphery of this five-sided bandwagon, it was a particular joy to see Terry Cox back behind a drum kit on the group’s two song performance at the BBC Folk Awards earlier this month: the man is an unsung hero, and oozed positivity.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 02, 2007, 08:03:23 PM
Thanks Bob....as I say, I'm having a ***p day!  Poor Colin - what a terribly shabby way for him to be treated...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 13, 2007, 12:06:26 PM
Well, mine has just arrived - and it looks and sounds magnificent!  Ridiculously bloody good value at 17.99 delivered from Play.com

Nice article and interview with the band in the April edition of Word magazine...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on March 13, 2007, 12:32:53 PM
Hmm - time to check at Amazon for the status of my order ...


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 15, 2007, 09:14:40 PM
I had put up a bit of the Word interview here - but have been asked to remove it as it's caused a bit of a rumpus between the band and associates I believe.   Anyway, happy to do so, but if you are in W H Smith's I suggest a quick browse of pages 70-73 of the April issue...

As a lighter interlude, I'll just quote a small section of the same interview talking about the Folk Awards...

"Various members of Fairport Convention arrive looking like senior college lecturers and ambitious prelates."  Now that's contentious  ;D


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Jim on March 15, 2007, 10:00:44 PM
why did you have to remove it ? if its in WorD then its a bit late for them to try to stop people reading it

publish and be damned sir


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Nick Reg on March 16, 2007, 09:40:24 AM
Mine arrived this morning £17.99 from Amazon with free packing.
Excellent value, but doesn't it suggest that a lot of box sets are grossly overpriced? Even so I'm a bit of an anorak for the old box set! I think one of their good points is the fact that each CD tends to last nearly 80 minutes whereas a single CD probably lasts 40 odd.
My favourite, apart from the FC ones of course, is probably Tom Petty's "Playback". We'll check out the Pentangle one this weekend.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 16, 2007, 10:08:42 AM

Mine arrived this morning £17.99 from Amazon with free packing.
Excellent value, but doesn't it suggest that a lot of box sets are grossly overpriced? Even so I'm a bit of an anorak for the old box set! I think one of their good points is the fact that each CD tends to last nearly 80 minutes whereas a single CD probably lasts 40 odd.
My favourite, apart from the FC ones of course, is probably Tom Petty's "Playback". We'll check out the Pentangle one this weekend.


It's not often I reckon things are criminally underpriced, but this is one of them.  It's just TOO cheap, and I can't imagine the band get more than a few pennies from it, but such are my finances that I'm afraid I'll get it for the cheapest I can find it...but then if it cost 34.99 I'd have still found a way of buying it somehow.

I'm afraid the FC ones are far from my favourites (like the other Free Reed box sets they are deeply flawed in production/quality terms - even though they look great)...probably the one I've enjoyed more than any other was the CSN box set which came out back in '91 (inbelievably!).


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Jules Gray on March 16, 2007, 10:15:27 AM

I'm afraid the FC ones are far from my favourites (like the other Free Reed box sets they are deeply flawed in production/quality terms - even though they look great)...probably the one I've enjoyed more than any other was the CSN box set which came out back in '91 (inbelievably!).


I agree with your thoughts on the Free Reed sets.  And I also agree with you about the CSN box set.  It's so well done that even the 80s material on CD4 sounds mostly wonderful and darn near essential.  A superb box set.

Jules


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Nick Reg on March 16, 2007, 10:48:03 AM
To me the music matters more than the recording quality, within reason of course. I also like the CSN box, picked up mine for £1 from a library sell off! Also got the Sandy flat box set for £1.50 at the same time (having already owned the vinyl version).


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Jules Gray on March 16, 2007, 10:52:37 AM

To me the music matters more than the recording quality, within reason of course. I also like the CSN box, picked up mine for £1 from a library sell off! Also got the Sandy flat box set for £1.50 at the same time (having already owned the vinyl version).


Boy, I bet that was a great day for you!

Jules


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Nick Reg on March 16, 2007, 11:03:53 AM


To me the music matters more than the recording quality, within reason of course. I also like the CSN box, picked up mine for £1 from a library sell off! Also got the Sandy flat box set for £1.50 at the same time (having already owned the vinyl version).


Boy, I bet that was a great day for you!

Jules


Yes, the day that every record hunter dreams of, but you have to put with a lot of fruitless searches too. Good job or the house would be fuller than it is now!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 16, 2007, 01:18:59 PM



To me the music matters more than the recording quality, within reason of course. I also like the CSN box, picked up mine for £1 from a library sell off! Also got the Sandy flat box set for £1.50 at the same time (having already owned the vinyl version).


Boy, I bet that was a great day for you!

Jules


Yes, the day that every record hunter dreams of, but you have to put with a lot of fruitless searches too. Good job or the house would be fuller than it is now!


No the day that every record buyer dreams of happened to a friend of mine at a record fair in Rainham (I think) the other week.  A private individual selling off his vinyl collection at 1.50 a stab.  My friend spent 60 quid with him...sat down with the 2008 price guide and worked out that the 40 or so albums he had bought had a 'book price' of 1760 quid!  Rare Vertigo's, rare reggae, a numbered White Album...  A nice little contribution for the pension fund for him!



Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 16, 2007, 05:56:20 PM
Article in today's Grauniad.  Apparently, Pentangle are Britain's Grateful Dead.  Utter nonsense of course, but nice to see them being discussed in newspapers!

http://music.guardian.co.uk/folk/story/0,,2034567,00.html



Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: peterwales on March 19, 2007, 09:23:33 PM
Almost exactly the same was said about Fairport by the Guardian when they released the "Who Knows Where the Time Goes" album on their 30th.-(the comparison with the Greatful Dead); real ale not LSD, folk not bluegrass, etc. Anyway, aside from all that, I thought the article on Pentangle was actually quite good.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on March 20, 2007, 08:28:45 PM
D**n! Just received this from Amazon:
Quote
Hello from Amazon.com.

We are sorry to report that we will not be able to obtain the following item from your order:
   
  Pentangle (Performer) "Time Has Come 1967-1973 [Import]"
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EPF8LC

Though we had expected to be able to send this item to you, we've since found that it is not available from any of our sources at this time.  We realize this is disappointing news to hear, and we apologize for the inconvenience we have caused you.
   
We have cancelled this item from your order.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 20, 2007, 08:39:01 PM

D**n! Just received this from Amazon:
Quote
Hello from Amazon.com.

We are sorry to report that we will not be able to obtain the following item from your order:
    
  Pentangle (Performer) "Time Has Come 1967-1973 [Import]"
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EPF8LC

Though we had expected to be able to send this item to you, we've since found that it is not available from any of our sources at this time.  We realize this is disappointing news to hear, and we apologize for the inconvenience we have caused you.
    
We have cancelled this item from your order.



Amazon.co.uk still have it...(although the price has risen from £17.99 to £24.99 since I got mine...)


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Bob Barrows on March 20, 2007, 08:45:15 PM


D**n! Just received this from Amazon:
Quote
Hello from Amazon.com.

We are sorry to report that we will not be able to obtain the following item from your order:
    
  Pentangle (Performer) "Time Has Come 1967-1973 [Import]"
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EPF8LC

Though we had expected to be able to send this item to you, we've since found that it is not available from any of our sources at this time.  We realize this is disappointing news to hear, and we apologize for the inconvenience we have caused you.
    
We have cancelled this item from your order.



Amazon.co.uk still have it...(although the price has risen from £17.99 to £24.99 since I got mine...)
That was the $19.99 version ... They still have the more realistically priced version. I'll have to go order that.


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on March 20, 2007, 08:54:46 PM



Amazon.co.uk still have it...(although the price has risen from £17.99 to £24.99 since I got mine...)
That was the $19.99 version ... They still have the more realistically priced version. I'll have to go order that.
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Ahhhhh - that was the 'we got the price wrong and we're damned if we're going to lose money over our mistake' version! Just goes to prove - if it's too cheap to be true, it's normally not true!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Nick Reg on March 20, 2007, 09:43:07 PM
Looks like I got mine just in time!!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on March 21, 2007, 10:24:16 PM

D**n! Just received this from Amazon:
Quote
Hello from Amazon.com.

We are sorry to report that we will not be able to obtain the following item from your order:
    
  Pentangle (Performer) "Time Has Come 1967-1973 [Import]"
  http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000EPF8LC

Though we had expected to be able to send this item to you, we've since found that it is not available from any of our sources at this time.  We realize this is disappointing news to hear, and we apologize for the inconvenience we have caused you.
    
We have cancelled this item from your order.


Yes, I got that too.....


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Jim on March 21, 2007, 10:35:48 PM
its still 18 quid(17.99) at play.com


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Ollie on March 25, 2007, 05:51:56 PM
Does anyone know what TV series Pentangle's Light Flight was the theme tune to?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Barry on March 25, 2007, 06:01:23 PM
It was a program called "Take Three Girls"


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Ollie on March 25, 2007, 06:04:55 PM
Thanks very much  ;D I needed to know to enter the BBC competion to win a copy of the Pentangle Box set. Haven't heard much of their stuff, but when i went onto YouTube and found it, I really liked it!!


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Jim on March 27, 2007, 11:39:50 PM
ahhhh take 3 girls, it was compulsory viewing for 16 year old lads back in 69

super,her that married(?)james bolam and the one that played natascha in warren peace

just noticed that the cd set is £28  in amazon now


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Andy on March 28, 2007, 12:35:20 AM

ahhhh take 3 girls, it was compulsory viewing for 16 year old lads back in 69

super,her that married(?)james bolam and the one that played natascha in warren peace


Susan Jameson, who plays Alun Armstrongs wife in "New Tricks".


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Jim on April 28, 2007, 09:22:02 AM
aye ,her
but did she marry Bolam or has it been over the brush since "when the boat comes in"?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Andy on April 28, 2007, 09:31:39 AM
Yep, and they have an adult daughter, it seems.

She voices talking books, y'know....


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Paul on April 28, 2007, 04:57:33 PM
There's an article on Danny Thompson in this months Bass Guitar magazine.

Paul


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Tasha on April 30, 2007, 02:10:42 PM

Yep, and they have an adult daughter, it seems.

She voices talking books, y'know....


My Mum and Dad used to hang around with her when she lived in Brum as my Dads mate went out with her. Thought herself a cut above the rest allegedly ;)


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Chris on April 30, 2007, 09:49:08 PM

There's an article on Danny Thompson in this months Bass Guitar magazine.


He's got a new website too!
http://www.therealdannythompson.co.uk


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Rory. on April 30, 2007, 09:59:50 PM


There's an article on Danny Thompson in this months Bass Guitar magazine.


He's got a new website too!
http://www.therealdannythompson.co.uk


John Martyn - genius, taken as read (or should be  ;D) I recently bought a remastered Solid Air - I've also spent more money than is sensible on a second hand hi-fi set up ( and I mean a lot of money  :-[) the thing that strikes me is Danny Thompson's playing on this album; the mood is led by Thompson as much as McGeechie, seminal album, mindblowing musicianship - why would anyone do anything else other than listen to 'Go Down Easy'?


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Nick on April 30, 2007, 11:47:50 PM
I've often said that Danny Thompson should be given a decent career retrospective -a well packaged 4-5 CD boxed set would be absolutely marvellous. Think how eclectic it would be?!!

Come on Free Read, get on with it!

Cheers

Nick


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on December 03, 2017, 03:47:32 PM
Not mine (honest!) but this is a great set which it looks like is going very very cheaply...(currently £4.99 + 1.50!)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pentangle-The-Time-Has-Come-1967-1973-4-x-CD-Book/302535108608?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649



Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: PaulT on December 03, 2017, 08:19:36 PM

Not mine (honest!) but this is a great set which it looks like is going very very cheaply...(currently £4.99 + 1.50!)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pentangle-The-Time-Has-Come-1967-1973-4-x-CD-Book/302535108608?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649




Got it! Thanks for the tip-off, David!  :) Still a snip at £7.50


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on December 04, 2017, 08:45:38 AM


Not mine (honest!) but this is a great set which it looks like is going very very cheaply...(currently £4.99 + 1.50!)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pentangle-The-Time-Has-Come-1967-1973-4-x-CD-Book/302535108608?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649




Got it! Thanks for the tip-off, David!  :) Still a snip at £7.50


Excellent - well worth that  :)


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Paul B on December 20, 2017, 10:19:34 AM
Some reading for Pentangle fans not immersed in Christmas telly

http://theafterword.co.uk/pentangle-a-history-in-several-parts/


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: davidmjs on June 15, 2019, 02:55:52 PM
Has anybody got the John 'Unpentangled' (dreadful name) set?  Worth it?

Seems very good vfm (everywhere except Amazon anyway)....


Title: Re: Pentangle - The Time Has Come 1967-1973
Post by: Alan2 on June 15, 2019, 03:19:57 PM

Has anybody got the John 'Unpentangled' (dreadful name) set?  Worth it?

Seems very good vfm (everywhere except Amazon anyway)....


Fwiw, I've been playing the CDs with Dorris Henderson, which I've had for a few years, and they're better than I thought they were.