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« Reply #20 on: October 02, 2012, 03:38:47 PM »


Is my memory playing tricks or have loads of rock bands had fiddles?


Not enough of 'em if you ask me!

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« Reply #21 on: October 02, 2012, 03:46:10 PM »



Is my memory playing tricks or have loads of rock bands had fiddles?


Not enough of 'em if you ask me!

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It's a Beautiful Day, and Flock were a couple from around that time. I don't remember any rock bands using fiddle at all in the early days of FC. But I will be now proved wrong I expect..  Grin
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« Reply #22 on: October 02, 2012, 04:24:30 PM »

Family, Curved Air, String Driven Thing, ELO, Velvets (viola), Mahavishnu, Jefferson Airplane, Mayall,King Crimson, Roxy, Zappa, hawkwind etc

Some big names there.
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« Reply #23 on: October 02, 2012, 04:26:37 PM »

It's a Beautiful Day, and Flock were a couple from around that time. I don't remember any rock bands using fiddle at all in the early days of FC. But I will be now proved wrong I expect..  Grin


I know of two others, albeit that it wasn't before 1970/71 that I learned about them

Bobby Notkoff played electric violin first with Electric Flag (1967), after that with the Rockets (1968 - LP on White Whale). When that last group became Crazy Horse under the guidance of Neil Young he wasn't part of it, but he did play on the song "Running Dry (Requiem for the Rockets)" of their first album together "Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere" (1969)

Seatrain with Richard Greene on electric violin started in 1969, when Peter Rowan joined in 1970 they became rather wellknown

Then there's the electric viola, as played by John Cale in the Velvet Underground......
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« Reply #24 on: October 02, 2012, 04:40:01 PM »




Little Feat were obviously at their peak with Lowell but their set a couple of years ago was one of the best I've seen in 25 years of Cropredy.

Is my memory playing tricks or have loads of rock bands had fiddles?


Leatherat and Levellers of course, if you count them as rock bands, which I do. A band from the 70s I was rather fond of who played a fiddle (all the time or was it just some of the time, my memory fades) was Bethnal, who were lumped in with punk/new wave but weren't really, they were more like hard rock, saw them a few times, was convinced as I so often was back then that they would be huge, sadly they weren't.

Have to agree about Little Feat, can't match your 25 Cropredys but certainly one of the best live performances I have ever seen anywhere.
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« Reply #25 on: October 02, 2012, 05:55:06 PM »



 I also prefer the latter period Byrds as well. Same with Little Feat. I don't expect anyone here to agree, though. No worries.




Shurely shome mishtake?Huh?   I do like all stages of the Byrds catalogue, but can't imagine ANYONE preferring Little Feat's output post Lowell George? IMHO.
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« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2012, 06:32:29 PM »

Yes Robert, I liked Craig Fuller from his earlier band Pure Prairie League, but I couldn't believe it when they brought him in as LG's replacement. 'Twas never going to work for me. It left me 'Cold, cold,cold' - if you'll excuse the pun.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2012, 08:39:07 PM »


Yes Robert, I liked Craig Fuller from his earlier band Pure Prairie League


The first two PPL albums are wonderful.  Big time faves of mine.

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« Reply #28 on: October 02, 2012, 10:29:15 PM »

The Dixie Dregs had some great fiddling.
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« Reply #29 on: October 02, 2012, 10:50:37 PM »

Doesn't some of David Lindley's work with Jackson Browne come into this timescale?
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« Reply #30 on: October 03, 2012, 12:24:15 AM »


The only question whenever there is a lineup change is do you want the new line up or nothing at all? Because thats the only choice you've effectively got. We should be thankful that certain members have kept it going for so long.


Succinctly and rather wonderfully put.  Smiley
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« Reply #31 on: October 03, 2012, 12:18:33 PM »

Didn't Jim Lea (bass player with Slade, who co-wrote most of their songs) also play violin? 'Coz I Luv U' springs to mind
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« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2012, 12:33:23 PM »


Didn't Jim Lea (bass player with Slade, who co-wrote most of their songs) also play violin? 'Coz I Luv U' springs to mind


They used to do a version of Paint It Black with violin intro
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« Reply #33 on: October 03, 2012, 01:34:46 PM »


Didn't Jim Lea (bass player with Slade, who co-wrote most of their songs) also play violin? 'Coz I Luv U' springs to mind


Yup.  Bass, piano, violin, guitar - quite the talent.  Slade's own Paul McCartney.

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« Reply #34 on: October 03, 2012, 06:59:27 PM »

East of Eden - Dave Arbus - also played on Who's Next.  And I think Graeme Smith(?) from String Driven Thing played in Van Def Graff Generator at one time.

Magma certainly had Didier Lockwood on violin - even Gong had a (jazz) violin around time of the "Shamal" LP.

Papa John Creach from the Airplane, Greg Molina was it from Quicksilver...?
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« Reply #35 on: October 03, 2012, 07:34:16 PM »

How about "High Tide", featuring Simon House, later with Hawkwind, Bowie and I believe Jude - they were about as rock music as you can get?
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« Reply #36 on: October 03, 2012, 07:55:36 PM »

A bit later, but The Rolling Thunder Revue had Scarlett Rivera. And she was on Desire. "Pistol shots ring out on a bar room night......................"
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« Reply #37 on: October 03, 2012, 09:23:32 PM »


A bit later, but The Rolling Thunder Revue had Scarlett Rivera. And she was on Desire. "Pistol shots ring out on a bar room night......................"


And that album influenced Mike Scott to find Steve Wickham, The Waterboys' fiddling superstar.

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« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2012, 01:26:30 AM »



Just weighing in---I first got into Fairport via "Nine," which I still love. I didn't hear L&L until s few years later and (to my ears) it was fantastic for its day, but hasn't aged all that well. What can I say? I also prefer the latter period Byrds as well. Same with Little Feat. I don't expect anyone here to agree, though. No worries.

Truth be known, my very favorite Fairport record is still the next one...

until you've actually  heard it


Very cynical, and definitely not true for my ears.
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« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2012, 01:28:12 AM »



 I also prefer the latter period Byrds as well. Same with Little Feat. I don't expect anyone here to agree, though. No worries.




Shurely shome mishtake?Huh?   I do like all stages of the Byrds catalogue, but can't imagine ANYONE preferring Little Feat's output post Lowell George? IMHO.


You don't have to imagine it: here I am. Don't take that wrong, though---I love Lowell's work. But I also love what they've done since then. Shaun Murphy is actually the one I miss the most.
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