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on: April 27, 2024, 10:38:25 AM
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Radio 4 - Soul Music, discussing Nick Drake's 'Northern Sky', on right now.
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on: April 27, 2024, 06:56:47 AM
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| Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by bassline (Mike) | ||
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Also, not to decry the business model, but if you do want to see the band play, it’s not like there aren’t two tours a year where you can see them in a more convenient (seated) venue closer to home. I may be wrong, but I think I remember Peggy saying that Cropredy is the means by which the funds to finance the tours, album and DVD releases and merch is raised. Probably to fund the next years festival too. I can't remember the interview, but Peggy looked worried that there wasn't going to be much of a walk up on the weekend. |
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on: April 26, 2024, 11:25:02 PM
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| Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Andy | ||
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Is that feasible or bonkers? Well, it's not feasible for 2024 because any good acts have been booked up for this summer for months. A lot of acts are already getting booked for 2025. As to 2026 and beyond, who knows? That's 2 years hence and when you look at events in the last 2, a helluva lot can happen in that time. |
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on: April 26, 2024, 10:47:03 PM
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| Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Shane (Skirky) | ||
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Also, not to decry the business model, but if you do want to see the band play, it’s not like there aren’t two tours a year where you can see them in a more convenient (seated) venue closer to home.
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on: April 26, 2024, 09:14:20 PM
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| Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Wandering Steve | ||
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Maybe they should announce who the special guest is going to be. Although it could, depending on who they are, actually make things worse? A shrug of the shoulders is probably not what is needed here? I agree with this If ticket sales are slow but you have one excellent joker in the pack left to play knowing that him / she /they would be the draw needed to sell the tickets you’d be announcing it by now…. The fact it’s not been announced sets alarm bells ringing. Let’s all donate a tenner each to a just giving page to get a top act booked if it saves the future of the festival I understand the act may not please everyone but a £10 donation and you get a patch/badge showing you helped support the festival. If I had to pay a tenner to help buy an act and help the festival sell out I wouldn’t hesitate…, Is that feasible or bonkers? |
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on: April 26, 2024, 07:18:41 PM
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| Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Shane (Skirky) | ||
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@davidmjs #word 👍
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on: April 26, 2024, 07:09:37 PM
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| Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by davidmjs | ||
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The nearest parallel to Cropredy that I can think of is Beautiful Days (no corporate sponsorship, the leveller’s festival, etc). From my recent attendances, I’d guess that their average audience age is c10 years or so younger than Cropredy. I think their numbers are capped at 10,000. In my opinion, their line-up is streets ahead of Cropredy this year, with something for everyone (as a side-note, we were amongst the oldest at a sold-out and heaving Longest Johns gig of c600; brilliant band!). Im pretty sure that their ticket sales are v healthy from what I’ve heard. I think my point is that once your unique selling point (for Cropredy it is/was the band, the fantastic location and a great chance to catch up with old friends) is no longer the main draw, lineup is everything. That's true, but BD is a multistage event on a bigger site, so they are able to cover a wider range of music, more choice and attract a wider demographic. The Levellers came to prominence a good 20-30 years after Fairport, and actually had enough top 40 hits to make a bona fide Greatest Hits album. Most of the acts tend to be 80's, 90's and 00's, give or take the odd Hawkwind or Van Der Graf, so they have that advantage too. The year Cropredy had Supergrass on did not go too well on the feral yoof front. Equally, BDs is a non-sponsored festival, capped at 17.5K attendees and with the extra cost of the infrastructure needed to put on all those extra stages, weekend prices are pretty comparable and they’ve (significantly, I think) already sold out all the camper van tickets. I think it’s about the line-up. I think the significant difference is that, from the off, BD has been a festival that everybody knows is the Levellers' but it's been deliberately curated to appeal to a much wider audience than just their own, and the different venues permit (even encourage) that. Unfortunately, the one stage setup in the current festival market just looks far too restrictive...and they've now lost that option because others in the village are offering that alternative and raking off the profits associated with it... opportunity lost. |
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on: April 26, 2024, 07:08:23 PM
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| Started by Will S - Last post by Shane (Skirky) | ||
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Wendy and I went to see Leveret at Pontardawe Arts Centre tonight. All three on top form, but the audience size was not great - around 55 paying punters. How bands can keep going in the face of certain losses every time they tour, I have no idea. Here's an interesting Guardian article on this very subject, published today. I suspect that that article was written to order. The Weeping Willows - an Australian duo - are embarking on a fifteen date UK tour shortly, The Paperboys (from Canada) are doing twenty dates in Europe (I’m including the UK in that definition) - they may well be losing green but as we all know, the first time Fairport made any money was when they got dropped and paid off by Phonogram, so this isn’t a new story. As Dr. Hunter Thompson so sagely opined, "The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." |
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on: April 26, 2024, 06:51:13 PM
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| Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Shane (Skirky) | ||
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The nearest parallel to Cropredy that I can think of is Beautiful Days (no corporate sponsorship, the leveller’s festival, etc). From my recent attendances, I’d guess that their average audience age is c10 years or so younger than Cropredy. I think their numbers are capped at 10,000. In my opinion, their line-up is streets ahead of Cropredy this year, with something for everyone (as a side-note, we were amongst the oldest at a sold-out and heaving Longest Johns gig of c600; brilliant band!). Im pretty sure that their ticket sales are v healthy from what I’ve heard. I think my point is that once your unique selling point (for Cropredy it is/was the band, the fantastic location and a great chance to catch up with old friends) is no longer the main draw, lineup is everything. That's true, but BD is a multistage event on a bigger site, so they are able to cover a wider range of music, more choice and attract a wider demographic. The Levellers came to prominence a good 20-30 years after Fairport, and actually had enough top 40 hits to make a bona fide Greatest Hits album. Most of the acts tend to be 80's, 90's and 00's, give or take the odd Hawkwind or Van Der Graf, so they have that advantage too. The year Cropredy had Supergrass on did not go too well on the feral yoof front. Equally, BDs is a non-sponsored festival, capped at 17.5K attendees and with the extra cost of the infrastructure needed to put on all those extra stages, weekend prices are pretty comparable and they’ve (significantly, I think) already sold out all the camper van tickets. I think it’s about the line-up. |
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on: April 26, 2024, 06:05:44 PM
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| Started by Red Shoes (Caz+Mark) - Last post by PaulT | ||
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I was unaware at that time that the LP title referred - apparently/allegedly - to a particular, er, "flavour" of oral sex!  Perhaps not quite that. The album's title supposedly comes from Cambridge slang for sex, commonly used by Pink Floyd friend and occasional roadie, Iain "Emo" Moore, who would say, "I'm going back to the house for some ummagumma". According to Moore, he made up the term himself. - Wikipedia I sit corrected!  |
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