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« on: March 11, 2009, 07:50:34 AM » |
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I would be interested to hear the oddest Fairport connected bootlegs anyone has heard. There are obviously the advert "We're a lot better for butter" featuring Sandy Denny and the Swedish Fly Girl soundtrack tracks, my personal favourite is Dave Swarbrick on the Radio Play "Fiddler of the Reels"?
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2009, 08:20:27 AM » |
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Oddest? Not sure I can match your suggestions (!), but I still think the Manor Sessions (Swarb, Peggy, Farnell and David Rea - from the summer of '72) take some beating. Fairport go all North American Country-Rock(ish). An interesting experiment not without its attractions.
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2009, 09:36:25 AM » |
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No particularly odd, & not a bootleg, but the 1975 "Ribbon of Stainless Steel" LP on which wrestler Brian 'Goldbelt' Maxine was backed by FC & friends is certainly different from the band's day job.
Side 1
Stainless steel (McDill-Reynolds)
Please don't tell me how the story ends (Kristofferson)
Don't she look good (Jerry Chesnut)
One of these days (Brian Maxine)
Pleasure and pain (Trevor Lucas-Dave Swarbrick)
West Virginia woman (Bare-Shaver)
Side 2
Sure didn't take him long (Waylon Jennings)
Pass me by (if you're only passing through) (Hillman Hall)
Woman, you have been a friend to me (Tom T Hall)
Hold you close in my mind (Brian Maxine)
Date with a heartache (Dwayne Detroit)
Mobile blues (Mickey Newbury)
Six days on the road (E.Green-C.Montgomery)
Sandy Denny, Linda Peters - backup vocals
Jerry Donahue - lead guitar
Trevor Lucas - thythm guitar, backup vocals
Dave Mattacks - drums
Dave Pegg - bass guitar
Dave Swarbrick - fiddle, mandolin, backup vocals
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Reg Guest, Don Lowes - piano; Mark Lloyd - percussion; Harry Pitch - harmonica; Peter Willsher - steel guitar
I've heard that another LP was made/mooted...?
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2009, 09:47:46 AM » |
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2009, 09:55:56 AM » |
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No particularly odd, & not a bootleg, but the 1975 "Ribbon of Stainless Steel" LP on which wrestler Brian 'Goldbelt' Maxine was backed by FC & friends is certainly different from the band's day job.
Side 1
Stainless steel (McDill-Reynolds)
Please don't tell me how the story ends (Kristofferson)
Don't she look good (Jerry Chesnut)
One of these days (Brian Maxine)
Pleasure and pain (Trevor Lucas-Dave Swarbrick)
West Virginia woman (Bare-Shaver)
Side 2
Sure didn't take him long (Waylon Jennings)
Pass me by (if you're only passing through) (Hillman Hall)
Woman, you have been a friend to me (Tom T Hall)
Hold you close in my mind (Brian Maxine)
Date with a heartache (Dwayne Detroit)
Mobile blues (Mickey Newbury)
Six days on the road (E.Green-C.Montgomery)
Sandy Denny, Linda Peters - backup vocals
Jerry Donahue - lead guitar
Trevor Lucas - thythm guitar, backup vocals
Dave Mattacks - drums
Dave Pegg - bass guitar
Dave Swarbrick - fiddle, mandolin, backup vocals
with
Reg Guest, Don Lowes - piano; Mark Lloyd - percussion; Harry Pitch - harmonica; Peter Willsher - steel guitar
I've heard that another LP was made/mooted...?
whilst appearing as "Swarbrick, Nicol and Pegg" at salford university about '76, i was priveledged to see Brian Maxine join the chaps to do a chunk of that particular lp |
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2009, 10:14:35 AM » |
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The naughty Sailors Alphabet and Simons ditty about dogs bottoms.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2009, 10:31:03 AM » |
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What is Simon's ditty about dogs about dogs bottoms? I imagine you couldn't print the lyrics because of taste and decency.
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2009, 10:35:05 AM » |
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whilst appearing as "Swarbrick, Nicol and Pegg" at salford university about '76, i was priveledged to see Brian Maxine join the chaps to do a chunk of that particular lp
So who was on the drum kit then? Not Bruce? |
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2009, 10:41:05 AM » |
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What is Simon's ditty about dogs about dogs bottoms? I imagine you couldn't print the lyrics because of taste and decency.
To the tune of an old hymn, its about dogs going to a gathering and each hanging their btms on a peg. Someone shouts fire and they all grab the nearest one and scarper. Thats why they now sniff each others to try and find their own. in a nutshell. The NSA is mainly Peggy and Swarb with, I think, Martin Carthy. |
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2009, 10:41:47 AM » |
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whilst appearing as "Swarbrick, Nicol and Pegg" at salford university about '76, i was priveledged to see Brian Maxine join the chaps to do a chunk of that particular lp
So who was on the drum kit then? Not Bruce? it was a drummerless show |
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2009, 10:44:25 AM » |
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whilst appearing as "Swarbrick, Nicol and Pegg" at salford university about '76, i was priveledged to see Brian Maxine join the chaps to do a chunk of that particular lp
So who was on the drum kit then? Not Bruce? it was a drummerless show Interesting....I don't suppose it was recorded? Lol  |
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2009, 10:45:44 AM » |
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I'm going to need more clues than that, Nick! Jules |
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2009, 10:46:53 AM » |
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it was a drummerless show
Interesting....I don't suppose it was recorded? Lol It was when the three of them were appearing as The Three Desperate Mortgages, David. Jules |
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2009, 10:47:51 AM » |
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it was a drummerless show
Interesting....I don't suppose it was recorded? Lol It was when the three of them were appearing as The Three Desperate Mortgages, David. Jules I've *whispers it very quietly* got that one....  |
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« Reply #14 on: March 11, 2009, 10:53:06 AM » |
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After "The Naughy Sailor's Alphabet"? "She Is Woman". I forgot the origin of the song, but it has a -albeit utterly tongue-in-cheek, of course!- very male chauvinist pig viewpoint: "She is woman, after all / My brain is large, whilst hers is small". Simon used to sing this ditty now and again live when someone broke some string, but there is also a Simon-sung studio version of it, presumably mid-80s. "I'm an eagle, she's a flea/Cause I'm a man, whilst she's just she". It's very funny. Now why on earth they ever did a studio version, I don't know - it was hardly album material! ... it wasn't written by any of them, it was taken out of context of some musical or so. Simon should know! Back when the Fairport mailing list was in its early stages, I set up the Fairport List CD tree - For Fairport Listmembers Only, Volumes 1-2-3-etc - I compiled CDs every few months crammed with rarities not only by Fairport but also offshoots: RT, Sandy, Albions etc. I think I did around 8 volumes, for about 100 people on the list, from 1997-ish onwards, and then after 2 or 3 years someone else took over, and after 2 or 3 further volumes it kinda died as far as I know, years ago. It had it own mailing list after a while. Actually I can't even play most of the CDRs anymore, so much for old CDR longevity, but at the time it was fun to do and it was also rather secret and hush-hush, well they were bootlegs, but FC knew about it (and received copies) and gave its OK provided it was all done small scale and it wouldn't ever get sold. A lot of the tracks, certainly FC's rarest, have since popped up on various box sets and I seem to remember the List CDs were even mentioned in the booklet of the UnConventional box set -I bet some people wondered what that was!- so it's not very secret anymore and part of the content is out officially anyway. Source of these came from my old tape trading habit originally -I did this in the early 90s- but later on others also sent material. You could see these List CDs as a kind of best-of of what was available in tape trading circles back in the old days. |
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« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2009, 10:55:40 AM » |
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I've *whispers it very quietly* got that one.... There's probably more than one! Jules |
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« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2009, 11:23:03 AM » |
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And as David says, the Manor Sessions, yes. It has been years since I played that, but it was very un-Fairport, especially on the cuts where David Rea took the lead, who is as un-English as possible. Imagine a Neil Young kind of accent backed by a soft-country-rock Fairport. But it's a whole album's worth: it was pretty much version one of what was later started from scratch with a whole different line up - and became Rosie. It's understandable the album was shelved. It's even surprising they got as far as they did.
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« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2009, 11:57:07 AM » |
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Imagine a Neil Young kind of accent backed by a soft-country-rock Fairport.
Actually that makes it sound much better than the few tracks I've heard. I'm glad it proved to be a dead end for Fairport. Jules |
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« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2009, 12:11:46 PM » |
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Imagine a Neil Young kind of accent backed by a soft-country-rock Fairport.
Actually that makes it sound much better than the few tracks I've heard. I'm glad it proved to be a dead end for Fairport. Jules I like it. I'm also glad that Fairport didn't ultimately go down that route (although to be frank the late '72-'75 material they did put out is very far from my favourite music the band has produced), but the results are anything but a total failure..... |
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« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2009, 12:23:06 PM » |
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I'm going to need more clues than that, Nick! Jules 'twas a genuine advert jingle for a very unlikely product (unlikely unless you know the background). I shall say no more, except that it is a very pleasant, if somewhat surprising ditty Cheers Nick |
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