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On the FC mailing list, Steven Pearce posted the following link, important enough to repost here:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wZggFpIyOKE

Thanks to Steven.
My! Fotheringay doing Too Much Of Nothing, excellent quality. I knew it existed but somehow never managed to actually see it, this is great.
Youtube.com has got excellent stuff, it's mentioned in the last MOJO too. Nothing Fairporty otherwise yet but if anyone has stuff to share ... I have videos but don't have a clue how to put it there let alone how to edit it.

Anyway enjoy Fotheringay  :D

Koen

Thanks, Koen.  That's superb.  Great to see Sandy enjoying herself, too.

brilliant
i wonder if theres any more where that came from?

There's always is more, Jim!  You can bet on it!

Pat

The technical people here can check out the tags on that video.....

whats that mean?

There are tags attached to the video - similar to headers on email - that are generally hidden, but can be seen if you know where to look....

I've seen a list, but can't access it at the moment....sort of 'interesting'....

I bought a fotheringay video boot on ebay. ( I'm sure it is evil, but I want more more more. I am a completist archiving collector) It has three songs. I'm not sure if that was all of them, but there are at least three.   

Who is zis GERRY CONWEY??

Blimey, good though innit, one might almost say historic. There has got to be more - please! BANKS OF THE NILE, OH LORD PLEASE SEND ME BANKS OF THE NILE...I will do anything....

That's two sightings of Sandy in a month...things are looking up.

Cheers - Ed

Can you post some info when you have accessed it then Chris.

ta

I've lost the email & won't now be home to request it from the sendewr until tomorrow evening.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D just watched it and I'm smiling from ear to ear! isn't Gerry a handsome beast! ;D
Whats Pat Donaldson  the bass player up to these days?

It is wonderful. And the sound is so good. . . why ever did they break up so soon?

Two words I'm afraid.....Joe...and....Boyd!  >:( :)

Some fantastic Who songs on this site, small faces and a great Doors Moonlight drive ;D ;D I'm happy!

And here's a nice one for any other fellow Beatles nuts out there who are also a bit into Python.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8w7dA4eXzwo

I actually ave the track somewhere on a Harrison bootleg but I've never seen it :-)

You can have a feast with this. Pink Floyd with an obvious Barrett-going-downhill on Jugband Blues ... Badfinger, whom I've never seen a clip of ... the video which got me into Deep Purple as a 16-yr old which I've only seen once - in 1984 (Perfect Strangers) ... wow. Addictive.

Anyone out there who would know how to edit from an old (PAL-) VHS tape and put clips on there? I'd happily send over a tape of mine with Fairport stuff to share. 

Koen

Really? I've always worshipped his amazing work.

He's living in Canada - last heard of a few years ago playing with the musical circus Cirque du Soleil.

I wouldn't argue with his production skills, just he was the one responsible for the Fotheringay break-up. He was never really interested in Fairport as such, just in Richard, and then Sandy. So as soon as Richard left Fairport, Joe didn't want to be involved. Similarly with Fotheringay, his master plan was to turn Sandy into a solo star so he kept on at her & eventually persuaded her to split the band and try to make it on her own. They were almost ready to put out a second album at the time, with stuff like Eppy Moray, Gypsy Davey, John The Gun, The Plainsman, so it seems a shame not to have given them more of a chance.

Are those facts you're offering, or opinions?

Seems mildly confrontational, Pete.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not picking on anyone, just answering the question "why ever did they break up so soon?". Without Joe Boyd persuading Sandy to go it alone, the band would have made a second album, and who knows what would have happened then...

As for facts vs opinions, it's very hard to have facts in a subjective matter like this, but it's an informed reading of the situation based on the opinions, comments, etc of the band members - including Sandy - and Joe himself, so it's pretty much factual I would say.

didnt i read some time ago that JD was tweaking the tapes :o of the 2nd album ready for a release?

I think Joe will be pretty frank about this matter in his new book - certainly the extracts I've heard don't pull any punches.

  On the George Harrison theme.........just found this :   http://youtube.com/watch?v=5e7iKfkfpHE&search=George%20Harrison

  Never heard of this guy, but he can certainly play.........

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UzeGb8PZe4g&search=sandy%20denny%20fairport%20convention%20bob%20dylan

I was real tickled to see the One & Ten BBC performance for the first time!  Pure heaven!!  ;D ;D ;D

Yessssssssssssssss, and this is also the footage which was first unearthed at the Sandy biography launch in ... I think 2000. The shorter URL being http://youtube.com/watch?v=UzeGb8PZe4g

So now this is it as far as I know, all known good quality video there is of Sandy (not counting the 1974 B&W audience tape part of which was on the It All Comes Round Again video ... which really isn't that good but apparently it was all that could be used then).

Glad to see it finally viewable for everyone.  ;D

Thanks for all of this, Koe.

Sitting quietly watching her made me think: If she was at that stage of her career today, she would have become mega  - compare Nora Jones and others.

Malcolm, you're right. Way, way ahead of her time. Why else would my 13-year-old daughter love her songs?

Thanks!

I'd like to add my thanks to those of you responsible for pointing out both the Fotheringay and Sandy video links, as I doubt I'd've ever got to see them otherwise.  Keep pointing out these gems, and I'll keep watching them, although it does seem like those of you in the know are saying that pretty much taps out the supply of Sandy vids.  Such a shame that more doesn't exist, but we are fortunate to have what does, I reckon.

The full Sandy 'One In Ten' is available as a downloadable file at:

http://rapidshare.de/files/15696425/Sandy_Denny_-_BBC.mpg

Anyone remember watching it at the time?

time to fess up
 i know i give off the air of a devil-may-care 21st century man about town O0
but im competely stumped at downloading this vid :P
is there any fear of a quick idiots guide to doing it?
please

Just click on the link....alright, the writing what says http:// etc

Then scroll down....gan down...the screen and click the button that says 'Free'

Scroll down the next screen and it'll say "you want to download..." and "please wait 60 seconds" or summat like that. Wait for the 60 seconds and it pops up with a picture of three letters/numbers, type them into the box, click on the download button and tell it which folder to download too.

Should be a piece of...

no sorry every time i try it i get a no good message
i'll try again later

What's it say like, Jim? It may be summat to do with your network at work so it should work at home later.

Just tried to down load it and also dont seem to be able to get it.  A message reckons I need to wait another 32 minutes before the down load will continue.  Unless of course I subscribe to the platinum service.

Sounds like you're sharing an IP address. At home, or where just one computer's on a network, it only lets you download one file every hour/hour & a half/summat like that. Presumably someone else sharing your IP, i.e. someone else at work presumably, is also using Rapidshare. So it's probably a case of getting in quick when the 32 mins are up, or doing it at home tonight.

"this video has been removed due to copyright infringement"

Blimey...that was quick, Martin. Lucky I got it as soon as I saw the link this morning then. Wonder if someone's reported it or whatever, or if it's just cos the filename says BBC. If it's the latter it's not the brightest bit of uploading from someone!  :D

I was at home, so I don't think its my IP thats the problem.  Though I coulld be wrong.  The message also stated that there had been around 180 downloads.

Very strange...just given it a try out of curiosity and it's still there, not been "removed due to copyright..." So anyone wanting to download it should be able to.

Mark, the message you were getting usually only appears if you - or someone else sharing your IP address - has downloaded in the last hour or so. So unless you downloaded something else from there, it sounds like you may have a shared IP address. Not sure what else could cause it...

It came down to me fine last night!
Staffan

still not having it here ???

Ok ,can I swear ? I kept the  Fotheringay and Sandy video in my Favourites  instead of down loading it . Now its lost forever due to those blimmin copyright rules .  :'(
Please  ---was anyone clever enough to have downloaded it .?Can someone let me have it to keep . ?
Yours
Devastated of Grantham .

Its just worked fine for me ????

There seems to be some confusion.
The Sandy solo BBC clip is still downloadable from rapidshare (see link at the top of the previous page) ... it's also still at youtube.com (which as far as I can see doesn't do downloads) ... but the Fotheringay clip, which started this thread, has been removed from youtube.com.
Who could possibly have complained, I wonder?? Take him/her out to be shot  :-\
Pity there wasn't a (clear, at least) way to download it from youtube ...

Thanks Koen....for clearing up the Fotheringport Confusion  :)

Try downloading from:

http://club.telepolis.com/sandydenny/Video/SD_Vid.wmv

to get the 'Too Much of Nothing' video.

Thanks Alex, that works a treat.

Thanks Alex! At last downloaded.
And thanks to José Luis Gallego, whoever he is, he who selfcredits rigorously at the end of this video ... and quite rightly so, this clip has been "hidden' too long.  8)

now, even i managed that  :o

Cheers Alex! ;D

Try downloading from:

http://club.telepolis.com/sandydenny/Video/SD_Vid.wmv

to get the 'Too Much of Nothing' video.
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Thank you, sir!! Got any more great suggestions?!

Ta,
Nathalie

Sir Robert, you have just made my day.

Is there anyway to save those files? I don't like to listen on my pc when I have good speakers in the other room. The Holland fc show and the 74 show look interesting.

I think the shows are 'streamed' rather than downloadable, Mindwarper.

I particularly liked the half hour Sandy Denny show - it's so good to hear her talk and laugh: I'd never seen her live.

Don't forget the video of Thommo singing 'Adieu, adieu' in a kitchen somewhere near Cropredy, everyone.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/music/features/folk-britannia-clips.shtml

Peel

You can download em during nightime hours in the US - so anytime before about 3pm here. I've just downloaded the Fairport Holland '75. Quite good, but they're heavily compressed so not really a replacement for a proper audio version. Handy if you're on the computer though.

To bring it back to Fotheringay, you can get the other Beat Club track - again, from Rapidshare I'm afraid - the URL for those who can use it is:

http://rapidshare.de/files/16650035/gypsydavey.mpg.html

Alex how do you actualy download them?

Tasha, just quickly - teabreak overdue...!

If it'll work on your connection - it sounds like it won't for some - it's dead easy.

Basically all you do is click on the link, then scroll right down to the bottom and click on the 'Free' option/button. That brings up a screen, again you scroll down almost to the bottom and there's some big red text saying 'Please wait 60 secs' or something like that. Wait for that to elapse and a little picture of three letters/numbers appears. Type those into the box. Hit 'Enter' and the 'Save As' window should come up. Just tell it where to save, and that should be it.

Hope that helps  :)

Thanks Alex but I think you're talking about the Fotheringay- I've got that fine ;D I was talking about the
 http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/ files.
Is it possible to save those to the hard drive?
Tasha

 ;D

Told you I were in a hurry....it was your fault for keeping the rapidshare bit in your quote though  >:( :D

That one's even easier. Just go to:

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/sugaree/

Right click on whatever you want.

Pick 'Save Target As' and tell it where you want it.

Shouldn't take more than ten mins or so.

Alex, Thanks! I've done it ;D :D

is there any fear of them putting a grateful dead show up there?

Don't be daft Jim....you can see from his photo he won't be into any of that shi...

I'd say the third Fairport entry was this winter tour at Cambridge!!

Puggs