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« Reply #200 on: May 10, 2007, 04:43:01 PM » |
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Is RT playing electric guitar on Banks of the Sweet Primroses? I can hear electric and acoustic guitars so someone must be.
Simon probably overdubbed the electric. Jules for a live BBC recording? At that time, wasn't RT still preforming with them, but wasn't on the record? |
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« Reply #201 on: May 10, 2007, 04:52:07 PM » |
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Is RT playing electric guitar on Banks of the Sweet Primroses? I can hear electric and acoustic guitars so someone must be.
Simon probably overdubbed the electric. Jules for a live BBC recording? At that time, wasn't RT still preforming with them, but wasn't on the record? According to the booklet, many of the recordings had some overdubs: ... although it was necessary at times to do live vocals, you'd usually do a rhythm track and then put the vocals on, and you might just occasionally be able to squeak in a little overdubbing here and there. |
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« Reply #202 on: May 11, 2007, 10:21:07 AM » |
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for a live BBC recording? At that time, wasn't RT still preforming with them, but wasn't on the record?
Like Bob says, they did do a little overdubbing on those BBC tracks - they weren't broadcast as they were being played unless they were actually 'in concert'. RT had quit playing live with them by Januray 1971. He did help out on occasion later on, after Simon left, but he won't have been around for that '71 BBC session. If he was, then the solo on Sickness And Diseases would be plenty more firey! Jules |
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« Reply #203 on: May 11, 2007, 05:00:36 PM » |
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for a live BBC recording? At that time, wasn't RT still preforming with them, but wasn't on the record?
Like Bob says, they did do a little overdubbing on those BBC tracks - they weren't broadcast as they were being played unless they were actually 'in concert'. RT had quit playing live with them by January 1971. He did help out on occasion later on, after Simon left, but he won't have been around for that '71 BBC session. If he was, then the solo on Sickness And Diseases would be plenty more fiery! Jules Sorry, I got discombobulated! RT was still living with them at The Angel, not playing with them.  Silly old me! |
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« Reply #205 on: June 03, 2007, 06:14:55 PM » |
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Rick was quite taken with the box set last night. It seemed to be the first time he had seen it.
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« Reply #206 on: June 03, 2007, 08:57:52 PM » |
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sorry for being really pedantic Bob, but it's Ric with no 'K'.
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« Reply #207 on: June 03, 2007, 08:59:25 PM » |
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« Reply #208 on: June 07, 2007, 12:37:41 AM » |
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I got the box set this morning - 22 quid from some place in the USA. I approach these things with some trepidation...
So far I've skimmed through it, but it sounds marvellous!
I like the version of Rising for the Moon. It sounds less Eagles and more Fairport than the version on the album.
Time will show the wiser on the 4th CD is one hell of a rocker!
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« Reply #209 on: June 07, 2007, 09:45:05 AM » |
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I like the version of Rising for the Moon. It sounds less Eagles and more Fairport than the version on the album.
Time will show the wiser on the 4th CD is one hell of a rocker!
I love Time Will Show The Wiser. Musically, it always reminds me of the early Buffalo Springfield. Probably no coincidence given the band's listening habits at the time. I also like that BBC version of Rising For The Moon. But I can't say I prefer it over the album version. I like both equally for different reasons. Jules |
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« Reply #210 on: October 07, 2009, 09:40:45 AM » |
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Having just got hold of this set, I was looking at the list of Fairport sessions on Rienhard Zierke's website http://www.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/~zierke/fairport/records/broadcast.html and realised that there were about three versions of Tim Buckley's Morning Glory recorded at the early sessions, but none has ever surfaced on an official recording. Does anyone know why - copyright reasons maybe? |
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« Reply #211 on: October 07, 2009, 12:04:10 PM » |
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I'd like to know myself, Will. As I stated earlier in the thread, I have one version (w/ Sandy) that is absolutely stunning. The only problem is that the DJ (Peel?, Sydmonds?) breaks into the final refrain of RT's blistering solo before the fade out. I can only deduce that this interruption might have lead to it being passed over.
Regardless, it should have been included.
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« Reply #212 on: October 07, 2009, 12:06:51 PM » |
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Regardless, it should have been included.
Sounds like you're right. I must track this performance down. Jules |
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« Reply #213 on: October 07, 2009, 12:41:17 PM » |
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My guess would be that it was David Symonds, simply because the other tracks with DJ talk over the beginning or end are him as well, so preumably the source of that session is from a tape of the show rather than the master tape of the session.
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« Reply #214 on: October 07, 2009, 02:06:53 PM » |
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As I stated earlier in the thread, I have one version (w/ Sandy) that is absolutely stunning.
Interesting. Does Sandy sing on that version? The only Fairport 'Morning Glory' I've ever heard is the earlier Bouton Rouge version, which is Iain's vocal with Jude on recorder. |
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« Reply #215 on: October 07, 2009, 07:56:37 PM » |
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Yeah. This time, its definitely Sandy singing backup for Iain - from the Holidays era. (Presumably) Symonds breaks in about Fairport's "huge sound" and starts rapping about "all his wonderful young friends." As soon as I'm clear of Christmas, I'm getting a cassette to digital converter. Y'all remind me about it this winter and I'll send ya some copies. |
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« Reply #216 on: October 09, 2009, 05:05:13 PM » |
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Morning Glory....such a fantastic song,sends shivers down my spine every time.Never heard a bad version of that.The first version I heard was by This Mortal Coil.I was most dissapointed there was no official Fairport version in the box.
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