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« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2011, 06:32:39 PM » |
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I heard a 40 second clip of 'Nothing More' on Youtube yesterday, and it sounded a bit bootleggy to me. The clip seems to have disappeared now though. I'm hoping that it was my speakers playing up!  |
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« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2011, 07:49:54 PM » |
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I heard a 40 second clip of 'Nothing More' on Youtube yesterday, and it sounded a bit bootleggy to me. The clip seems to have disappeared now though. I'm hoping that it was my speakers playing up! To be honest I'm fully expecting it to sound, as you say Pete, "bootleggy", and that it'll be fairly interesting but hardly essential, and that I'll play it once or twice and then file it away. I hope I'm proved wrong though. Jules |
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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2011, 03:20:41 PM » |
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It does sound a bit bootleggy, but there are brilliant moments.
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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2011, 06:07:23 PM » |
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I heard a 40 second clip of 'Nothing More' on Youtube yesterday, and it sounded a bit bootleggy to me. The clip seems to have disappeared now though. I'm hoping that it was my speakers playing up! 'Nothing More' from this album can still be found here: http://www.myspace.com/sandydennyThe sound indeed is slightly 'bootleggy' and though it's not bad, I don't think this version is better than any other that was recorded by Fotheringay, as has been stated elsewhere. Surely interesting from a historical or completist view, but I'm not sure wether I will buy it. |
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« Reply #25 on: June 30, 2011, 11:56:59 AM » |
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My copy has arrived.
Philip's liner notes are very well written (as always) and the booklet has been done very well. The show itself was obviously a strong one. As for the sound of the CD - well, Jerry has obviously worked very hard to do the best he can. The drums sound great, the bass is fine, but the vocals and topline instruments do struggle to be heard...especially the vocals...especially Trevor's.
I'd have to say that ultimately it's a fan's only release and that the sound, whilst improved, still only sounds like a fair quality bootleg. I'm actually surprised that Jerry thought it was worthwhile pursuing. The live tapes used on the Sandy box sets over the years are much easier to enjoy. I'm very glad to have a copy, but in all honesty I can't say it'll get many plays.
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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2011, 12:15:21 PM » |
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Thanks for that Jules. I have been holding off on this since I read that it sounded "bootleggy". I'd like to hear it (Spotify?) but I think I will refrain from purchasing.
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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2011, 01:14:08 PM » |
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I ordered a copy of the Essen CD off of eBay, but I can't seem to find the Fotheringay "Lost Broadcasts" CD/DVD set. Amazon U.S. apparently sold out the day it went up for sale. Any leads?
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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2011, 02:28:01 PM » |
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Thanks for that Jules. I have been holding off on this since I read that it sounded "bootleggy". I'd like to hear it (Spotify?) but I think I will refrain from purchasing.
Yes, thank you, Jules. I suspect I will follow GubGub here. For the Lost Broadcasts set, Amazon UK has it as 'Out of stock'. |
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2011, 02:49:27 PM » |
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Didnt that get withdrawn?
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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2011, 06:28:23 PM » |
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My copy has arrived.
Philip's liner notes are very well written (as always) and the booklet has been done very well. The show itself was obviously a strong one. As for the sound of the CD - well, Jerry has obviously worked very hard to do the best he can. The drums sound great, the bass is fine, but the vocals and topline instruments do struggle to be heard...especially the vocals...especially Trevor's.
I'd have to say that ultimately it's a fan's only release and that the sound, whilst improved, still only sounds like a fair quality bootleg. I'm actually surprised that Jerry thought it was worthwhile pursuing. The live tapes used on the Sandy box sets over the years are much easier to enjoy. I'm very glad to have a copy, but in all honesty I can't say it'll get many plays.
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2011, 06:38:14 PM » |
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I might add that the likes of us (ie hardcore Sandy fans) would probably rather have it than not. I'm hoping my review wasn't too negative and that I didn't put potential buyers off who'd actually be forgiving of the recording's shortcomings.
As I said the show itself is actually strong.
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2011, 06:42:22 PM » |
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I might add that the likes of us (ie hardcore Sandy fans) would probably rather have it than not. I'm hoping my review wasn't too negative and that I didn't put potential buyers off who'd actually be forgiving of the recording's shortcomings.
As I said the show itself is actually strong.
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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2011, 08:22:17 AM » |
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Put off...? Probably not, but your review has dropped it down my 'priority list'. I suspect I'll wait until I find a cheap copy now, rather than ordering it straight away. But I will probably still get it some day...
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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2011, 01:36:16 PM » |
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I think you guys are being a little bit unfair to damn it as 'bootleggy'. Sure, as the LP notes say it was only semi-professionally recorded by the host and there is a mic half way down the hall that was accidently open into the mixing card and it picked up some noises from the other stage. But Jerry has done a great job and it's (in my humble opinion) in a different league to 'Poems From Alexandra' or 'Wild Mountain Thyme'. Just compare the quality of 'Memphis Tennessee' to that version from the same concert on the German GB label 'Savoy Brown/May Blitz/Fotheringay' album. I'd say it's worth adding to any collector's portfolio.
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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2011, 04:05:48 PM » |
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Depends on your understanding of the word "bootleggy". I imagine it to sound a bit like the Fairport "Who Knows" or "Many Ears To Please" releases where the vocals are a bit hollow and echoey. Is that fair?
If so, they are interesting historical artefacts but I don't listen to them often because the sound is not polished enough for my tastes whereas "Before The Moon" being sourced from radio recordings holds up well.
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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2011, 06:29:10 PM » |
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where the vocals are a bit hollow and echoey. Is that fair?
The track I heard sounded like Sandy was singing in another room, and a horrible booming bass, that is impossible to lessen. I'm still gonna get it though. |
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« Reply #37 on: July 02, 2011, 09:14:48 AM » |
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Depends on your understanding of the word "bootleggy". I imagine it to sound a bit like the Fairport "Who Knows" or "Many Ears To Please" releases where the vocals are a bit hollow and echoey. Is that fair?
I reckon that's fair.
The track I heard sounded like Sandy was singing in another room
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« Reply #38 on: July 02, 2011, 10:24:40 AM » |
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Democracy rules then ...
By the way, I've just seen that the CD has now been listed on Amazon UK at £24.52 but no in-stock dates as yet.
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« Reply #39 on: July 02, 2011, 11:10:44 AM » |
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Hmmm. 41 years before first release. More sewer dredging or quality material? I wonder which.
I have carefully read the replies herein and have concluded that this sadly falls into the first category, however well-intentioned. Twenty-Four Pounds Fifty Two Pence? Jesus. Talk about wringing the public's gullibility to the full! If you want to buy it folks, that's up to you of course. But I ain't that fanatical. |
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