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Cor... look...  first bands announced!!

Whhhooopppeeee....

AmyJen

STEELEYE SPAN and FEAST OF FIDDLES* and on a THURSDAY!


Blimey!

What do they have for Friday night  :o


*With DAVE MATTACKS, at CROPREDY.

Double blimey!

Well what a lineup for Thursday and hooray for Olly and his friends

 :D

Jude

Looks fantastic!!!!

Very good start... Much more like it. FoF are great, really great in concert.

Good grief, what a line - up on the Thursday, how on earth will they follow that ?
Special congratulations to Olly and his fellow Rants, I'm sure they will get the festival off to a great start.  [;-) {:-) ..... only 10 more months to wait   ;D

Chris Newman should be good as well. Havn't seen him since he toured with Fred wedlock. His solo spots were always good.

Paul

Can I just add an 'agree with all the above' post (apart from the Chris Newman one - I've not seen Fred Wedlock either..) and wait for some moderation and tidying up later? Now, where's that Olly, allow me to buy him a large congratulatory lemonade. I have actually seen WR, and I think they'll be this year's Tiny Tin Lady.

Plenty of time for rehearsals then, Olly.....bit like homework!

Bloody Great ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

FEAST OF FIDDLES!  YAY!!

Wanted to get to see them on the last tour but couldn't make it.

Is 2006 the year I tell everyone I'll do breakfast in the mornings and see you all back at the tents later, much later...  My kinda weekend.

Well done Olly too!

Joy! Bliss! Maddy at Cropredy at last  ;D.  August seems a long way off!

Sorry Olly and Co, forgot to add my congrats! Well done guys, really looking forward to seeing you play.  ;)

WOOOOOOOooooooooo
We can't wait! this is my dream come true! i was so gutted when we diddent get it last year.
Thanks to all!! :)

Congratulations and well done Olly  ;)

same here  Congrats  mate look forward to see ye knock everybody's socks off

Zouk

Great line up,congrats to Olly too. ;D :D

Good luck and well done Olly. I expect to see you outdo Tickled Pink's first on performance.

Yippeeeeeeeee what a line up! :o well done Olly ;D ;D ;D ;D

This is a great Thursday line-up, and I can honestly say I am most excited to see wRants.   .. with FoF a close second.   We expect great things Olly  :-*

Issy

will play well if i get payed in beer afterwards!! :D ;D :o

I have a feeling that you will only need to show your face at the bar for that to happen...... justly deserved to you and the rest of the band  [;-)

WELL DONE OLLY.

WHAT A GREAT START TO CROPPERS!!!!STEELEYE AND FEAST OF FIDDLES AND THE HARPY THINGY DUO.


SOOOO EXCITED

Well I know it's not particularly original but I am very excited by this news!!  [;-)

BRILLIANT

I think this time  I'll be staying over so I can drink socialise

Fantastic -all this AND PJ!! and that's just Thursday. Don't think I need to bother with the chair this year! Straight to the front and stay there!  YIPPEEEEE!!!!  ;D ;D ;D

Only seems to be a list for Thursday. Well pleased to see Steeleye there again.... class  8) ;D 8) ;D

is it just me, or has Olly turned into Orlando Bloom while we weren't looking.... :o
Form an orderly queue ladies.... :o

Oh, I think some of us were looking.....  :)  8)   :)

Lovely stuff: after wRanting at Oxford, it'll be a treat to see 'em at Cropredy.  :D

That's because it's a one-dayer in 2006 ...... or have I misread something  ???




 ;)

Congratulations, Olly.

Should sell more full weekend tickets with a line-up like this.

No-one has a voice quiite like Maddy.

 ;D ;D

Im pretty sure it's a 3-dayer Nuthouse i just recfkon they're teasing us.

Great line up so far, can't wait to hear the rest :)

I haven't replied sooner because I'd love to see Steeleye at Croppers but I'm not sure if we're going next year  >:(  (Trying to pretend it's not happening, lol). 

Thing is, now our eldest into her GCSE years we won't be taking any hols in term time which means that the 2 week jaunt to somewhere sunny will have to be taken in the main summer hols (can't get easter off either).  Added to that, that Mr Ana has suddenly got fed up with 'all this folky b@ll@cls' so it would mean that I go on my own.  Going to be difficult to get all of Cropredy off and get 2 weeks abroad aswell.  Oh and it would be our wedding anniversary on the Friday.

Frustrated.

Ana

You're never on your own at Cropredy, Ana - don't kid yourself!
Can't you get two weeks & two days holiday?....then you could come down for the Thursday & Saturday (with a B&B on Saturday so you can drink, and spent the FRiday (all-day!) with Mr Ana & celebrate the anniversary properly....

Cheers Chris  :-*  No worries, I have several cunning plans... I can't see me missing it.  If it REALLY comes down to it, then we don't have a 2 week holiday abroad.  Selfish maybe, but I don't do alot for myself the rest of the year!  Lucky for me I know quite a lot of peeps who go so I'll always have someone to camp with.  What I don't have a cunning plan for is how to leave the girls at home  ;D

Wow what a piece of news.
I am Jack the main fiddler in wRants and am delighted to say the least!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks to everyone who supports us and look very forward to seeing you at CROPPERS!!
festival jack comes out to play.  ^-^ ^-^

cheers

jack

I bet Jess'll have something to say about that comment, Jack! ::) ;)

[for those unaware, Jess is the other fiddle player in the wRants]

Welcome to you Jack the fddler.

Look forward to sseing you play at Cropredy

Jude :D

erm, yeah ok
 hi im jack one of the founders of wRants who just happens to play the fiddle mainly!! :P

Hi Jack,
I still haven't seen you guys :( so I'm really looking forward to catching up at Cropredy ;D

Congratulations Olly, Jack and all !!!!!!

Mic

Really pleased to see you're getting a chance, thanks to the Lads for listening and encouraging new talent. I'll be down the front to cheer you on.

With tiara on of course Polly Eh???

Tiaras and Fezzes in force at the front!!!!
Gotta show solidarity of support here  [;-) {:-)

Mic - 'course I will have to get a new Tiara first {:-)

how do-es a newbie go about asking someone to get that big fish or bigger fish or something on again, first band we caught this time round and set things up superbly.
zeppelin, porcupine tree, and bits that just melged into some summer haze, want more.

By posting on here - preferably legibly! ;)

The 'people-that-need-these-opinions' are around & about.... ;D

But, apart from Digance, acts are unlikely to return immediately the following year.

Basically the same as us 'old bees'  keep on and on til you drive


to distraction ;D ;D ;D

Mic ;)

and whilst I'm here...
Songs from the Blue House!!! for Cropredy '06

Oh - and preferably - you only need to ask once per band, per person... ;) ;) ;)

Don't think I've mentioned them for ooooooohhhhhh, must be at least a couple of days :D

Mic ;)

Yes please... SONGS FROM THE BLUE HOUSE

AmyJen ;D 8)

Did I mention that Songs From The Blue House should be at Cropredy 2006?

And Bellowhead.

Don't know Keith, did you?

Flipping good idea though.

By posting on here - preferably legibly! ;)

are you inferring that i have poor grammar?
which i have, and i consider it a poetic quirk, or something.
but back to the fish band people, thanks, i will consider the request acknowledged.

how come bands dont want to play two years running? is the hospitality sub standard?

The hospitality is second to none, Mr Steam.

Jude

 
At Cropredy, backstage hospitality is provided only for the crew, technicians, sparkies and riggers.
The artists enjoy the same hospitality as the paying public, if they want a beer, they go to the bar, if they want to eat, they visit Leon, just like everybody else.
In summary, the catering for artists is pretty damn good, but it ain't free. On the other hand as Jude so rightly says, the hospitality is second to none.

No I wasn't - what I meant was that what you write needs to make sense....
Spelling & Grammar aren't necessarily necessary....


Other than Richard Digance, I don't think any act has been booked two years running. Probably because there are many good acts around, and it'd be silly not to get as many as possible...I'm sure bands would like to play two years running - it's a booking policy.

and on booking policies it is well known that bands have only been booked if Peggy has seen them himself - word of mouth and recommendations are not good enough.

So, maybe complementary tickets to Fairport Towers when playing in the area may help.

Jackdaw

I believe that!!
peggy and Gareth came and watched us on the firday night in the mill on the banbury folk festival weekend!
Olly,

I seem to have started something bigger than i meant, i wasn't suggesting in any way that you all don't look after everyone fantastically, obviously i've never been backstage at crop, but everything else on the site is superb,  ;D
espescially the childrens area, spent a whole day in there with our two and still felt like part of the festival, excellent job all round.
i'll keep my ill judged comments under my fez in furture. :-X

Jones The Steam....one thing you will see (if you haven't seen it already) is that you can ask any question you like and if there is an answer ... then someone is bound to provide it. Obviously, there are some topics that have their answer elsewhere .... if it is a matter of opinion, then as you would anywhere else, try not to tweak noses (too hard) when expressing them

Ill judged ? - I dunno, mate..... maybe being a bit harsh on yourself there. Don't go hiding under that Fez now !

As for Cropredy 2006 - I would love a bit of Country on Friday or Saturday afternoon - lovely bit of bluegrass with high-octane banjo playing... fantastic..... wonder what the Old Crow Medicine Show are doing next August ?

Although last year Peggy didn't choose the bands at all. It was done by Simon, Rob and Gareth.

cheers mate, and like the idea of country afternoon too, thought it was a little too rock this time round, so if they're going to be branching out something sit-down-to-able would be more than welcome of a sunny day.
not that bluegrass is mellow i know, but less rock covers bands i think.

Although this is incorrect - all four, including Peggy had equal input, I understand. Joint decisions.

Not according to Peggy himself on internet Folk Radio (not sure of the exact name). He said (to paraphrase) "this year they were chosen by committee...I wasn't particularly involved"

Apologies - I was unaware of that quote.

But all four are certainly booking in years to come....

So Peggy didn't have much to do with this years Cropredy, but he will be involved in future?

Will he also be playing with the band? Have they let him back in after the fiasco in America?

He's currently still on sabbatical. He's doing well, and guesting with Bob Fox tomorrow at the Mill in Banbury. Come & say 'hi'....

Getting back on thread here any ideas as to who may headline the Friday night?

We can assume it won't be RT but as Jerry D is now playing with the Yardbirds doesanyone think they would be a suitable act, either as a headliner or at some stage during the weekend.

I think we may get another one-time chart act for Friday though, someone like Marillion, who should have played cropredy by now, also it looks as if the Proclaimers are having a bit of a resurgence at festivals lately.

Jackdaw

I don't think the Yardbirds are a big enough 'sell' to headline, but they are certainly suitable for the R'nB 'Hamsters' slot....


Personally, it'll be an early night for me if either of those get a headline spot. Not keen on the Procs, never have been, and Marillion are well past their best. I also susapect that they're too mainline 'rock' for a Cropredy Headliner.

I think the Proclaimers would be rather good.  ;D

Y'know Cocker, you may just have a point there!

The Proclaimers!!!!! Great idea ;D
I'd really love to see them at Cropredy :)

Mic

Oh, I didn't say that they shouldn't be booked, just that they're not my cup of tea.

That's what makes discussing music interesting....everyone's tastes are different! Long may that last!

I would think though that any suggestions / discussions about headline bands here may well be irrelevent, as Thursday isnow signed and sealed it seems likely that contracts are being made for the rest of the weekend as we type.

Still, its fun talking about it anyway.

Jackdaw

I'd also like to see Runrig or Capercaille ;D

Oysterband would hit the spot too ;D  2004 seems like a long time ago now ;)

Mic

Capercaille... wonderful!!!!

Well back in the 60's the Yardbirds were big enough to headline & especially with Donnahue at a Fairport Fanatic filled Cropredy of aging Hippies, of course the Yardbirds are big enough.

100% Agree with you Chris, the greater the differences in taste the more chance we have to learn and explore new things!

Prejudice or experience?

Marillion are not the band that many people remember - and certainly not a one-hit wonder - they charted 2 singles last year (not that that's necessarily anything to shout about these days)

It's amazing how many Marillion T-shirts are around the field in Cropredy - to my ears they are a band that has gone from strength to strength in recent years and, if it weren't for that bl***y Kayleigh song, would be much higher profile than they currently enjoy.

They also have more than enough talent to 'do the Cropredy thing'.  A recent acoustic tour of the States springs to mind -

Make my vote for Los Trios Marilliones for '06


Chris says - Only formatting tidied up

I repeat - Headliners main reason is to sell tickets. The Yardbirds are just not doing that at their own gigs, and I don't see why appearing at Cropredy would sell any more.
Also, I've seen then live. OK, Jerry is given the odd riff, but it certainly can be stated that he doesn't feature as the 'main man'.
I suggest you go see them - you may change your mind as to their headlining suitability.

I last saw Marillion around two-ish years ago, I think. I don't know whether they've changed further since.
However, you hit the nail on the head "not the band that many people remember" - so would those coming to see Marillion in the open air be happy with the remaining acts likely to be booked? That answer needs to be a 'yes' in large enough quantities to sell at least 8,000 Friday / Saturday (or all weekend!) tickets, if they were to headline Friday night.
I'm not convinced - and Marillion would need to satisfy the booking committees similar query.

But if you just meant book 'em for a non-headlining slot - yes, definitely - but I fear they'd want too much dosh not to be headline material. Maybe a slimmed down version - do they do that?

Very much so - they were second on the bill at Guilfest this year, sandwiched between Chas and Dave and Lulu - that's versatility for you!

And, yes, they do a stripped down - Marillion lite - version.


(2 years ago would have been the end of the Anorak touring, they were recording the last album and went out to blow off the studio cobwebs - a good tour, but not one of their best.)

Runrig would do a GREAT! Friday headline.  And boy can they headline!  And I'd LOVE to see Capercaillie too.

And too many others to mention.  Lunasa, Shooglenifty, Nickel Creek (although they're ?American ?Canadian and would have to just happen to be the right side of the water), Any outfit with Mike McGoldrick, Kate Rusby, Kate Purcell, John Tams....  Isambarde for a long-shot Friday opener?  Where are Altan at these days?

Apart from "that bl**dy Kayleigh song" (agree with the sentiment there) I know very little about Marillion.  Weren't they a kind of goth band at one point? So I shan't comment on their suitability or otherwise for Croppers - they alone wouldn't inspire me to buy a ticket though.

That's my tuppence-ha'penny worth...

Altan are amazing in their genre...  I'll never forget seeing them in the Olympia in Dublin.. the gig didn't start til after midnight.. there were pints of Guinness being passed over evryone's heads all night everywhere.. it went on til about 3am...  it was shortly before Franlie Kennedy died.. he came on stage and played for a while.. fantastic..an altogether fantastic night...  saw them later on a very rainy night in Newark three years ago.. would LOVE to see them again....

AmyJen ;D

Kind of academic now, just checked Yardbirds site and JD has left the building!!

Jackdaw

Hey, Jackdaw - see what you started!

No, Marillion were never 'goth', nor were they ever a scottish heavy metal band.

With regard to 'pulling power', this forum has 1400 members, the equivalent one for the 'M' band has 6000...



I shall say no more least I be accused of attempted brainwashing... ;D

But they did comeclose to nicking a fairport album cover design I think  ;D

Jackdaw

You could possibly be right...

So Jerry isn't really with them then...? then someone elses post was missleading me.

Headlining acts for me would be Jethro Tull, Steeleye Span, Tannerhill Weavers, Saxon, Led Zeppelin (well we can dream can't we), the reformed Queen, with Paul Rodgers, Status Quo, etc etc etc.....

No attempt to mislead. Jerry WAS a member but their sites most recent news anounces his recent departure.

Jackdaw

more tull, obviously, my first year there, not an old hand yet i'm afraid, was mainly to see them, and as usual, i was entertained and amazed, they get the dynamics spot on. never too heavy, never quiet.

Oh well, never mind... Another great Guitarist has been through the ranks of the Yardbirds it seems then...lol

Perhaps I should join them for a bit...lol ;D ;)

Just about to celebrate their 21st Anniversary year! They're appearting at next year's Celtic Connections in Glasgow, more of which I'll post elsewhere soon.


The first two will have met that by next year & third definitely one for the future. The others are too heavy, or too popular (yes, you read that right), or just out of keeping with the spirit of the festival.


As this is in the Fairport board, more ought to be said on this. He joined on March 25 this year and departed sometime in the last month or so. From their website....

"Due to conflicting commitments to outside assignments, The Yardbirds and Jerry Donahue have mutually agreed to a parting of ways. The Yardbirds have been honoured to have Jerry as one of their lead guitar players."

If Runrig are too big (and I suspect that they are) then Donnie Munro and his band would be good.  Probably not headliners, though.

Capercaillie are just stunning.

I'd love to see cappercaille there not to mention the likes of Christy Moore.

I suspect that people chatting around you will be highly irritating....Christy is one artist that has to be listened to to fully enjoy the experience....

Very true. There have been one or two acts on where people chatting do distract from the enjoyment.

However my answer when I have an artist come on I don't like is to go have a walk around the field, in order not to disturb the people who for some reason do happen to like Anna Ryder... (lord knows why)

I find people chatting around me during any music act to be annoying. We once learned a girls entire life history during the Supertramp set a few years ago.

Paul

+ 1 on that front. Fair enough I can sit quite merrily in a busy pub & blank out evrything (almost) appart from the act on stage, but in cinemas, or in the middle of a field on a sunny August weekend, nearby voices that arn't kept under control are extemely annoying.

Patrick Street

I've relocated the 'chatting at gigs' discussion, which I inadvertantly started, into its own thread in !Active.

Just been having a look at wRants website. Love the fact they're counting down to Cropredy already ;D ;D

rachel

You mean to say you're not?

 ;)

Jackdaw

Not quite tHAT accurately ;D

rachel

I'll make myself really unpopular here I know but I may as well voice my opinion seeing as I can!  ;)

Not sure I can get as excited as you lot about wRants playing at Cropredy. Don't get me wrong, fair play to them etc. etc. and I'm sure they'll be well received... but only for what they are. I've said this before in a thread referring to Tiny Tin Lady, they're very talented for being youngsters and I love to see that but this kind of thing is a bit too close to a novelty act for my liking.

I watched most of the wRants set at Banbury Canal Festival and must say I thought they were good for a bunch of kids. I'm sorry though, I don't think they're close to Cropredy material quite yet.

Olly - I know you're a regular here so please don't take my negativity to heart, I'm truly pleased for you (maybe even a little envious!) and I'm sure you'll have one hell of a good time up on that big stage!

wrant over (!) - please don't flame me!  ::)

Not seem them yet so can't comment on wRants but there does seem to be a general policy that the opening act is a local band, so I'm just pleased that in 2006 we get a local folk band rather than a pub rock band knocking out cover versions.

Jackdaw

I think policy is that the opening act be a local band - correct. In that respect, I agree with your comments JackDaw.

We're also happy for the wRants to be playing this year because they were denied the chance to play last year. They were on the line-up then had to be withdrawn due to some school beaurocracy problem.

What about the encouragement an appearance of this stature can give some very talented people?.....if only one (& I'm sure there'll be more than that) is encouraged to take up music seriously to the point of gigging for the rest of their lives, I'm happy to have hem take up an hour of my Cropredy experience. Youngsters should be encouraged!
<wrant2 over>

if young bands don't play at music festivals (especially croppers) the festival will die out. along with the tradition. if the oldies want there music to disappear with them then good for them. but i certainly am not going to let it die. i can accept that there will be some people that don't like us, but please only judge us after hearing us.
Hope to see you down the front at croppers ::)
Olly.

Last nights Mike Hardings show featured several brilliant contenders for the Young Folk Award 2006. He said that they were bet the ages of 15-20 and that all the acts were so good he was glad that he didn't have to make the choice between them. This is our future, and out of it will come the next Martin Carthy, Christy Moore, Maart, who knows?!  {:-)

Some of us should cast our minds back to 1967 (those of us who are able, can do so in reality, others must make do metaphorically ;D) to a semi-pro band being asked to open for Pink Floyd at the UFO club. I rest my case.


Rock on, Olly. look forward to seeing you.

Flame you? No -  I don't even follow the logic of your statement. So what you are saying? Is it that unless you are an established pro act you shouldn't be playing at Cropredy?


Perhaps this explains the post?

Sorry Jono, your post comes over as mealymouthed and bitter.

What about when Clarion opened Cropredy a few years ago (97 or 98, not sure).  They went down a storm and, excepting Fairport themselves, were easily the most popular and talked about act to play that year!

....and at the other end of the scale, nothing could have been more 'dire' and 'unCropredylike' IMHO, OF COURSE, than Musafir from India in 2001!! C'mon Olly - lets Rock!!  {:-)

this subject is possibly a week or so over the old news threshold, but people kept mentioning cave at crop for 2006, and i scanned back plenty of posts and still am unsure which cave, i am only familiar with one, and that would be nick, of mercy seat fame, which would be fantastic, but am i barking up the wrong stump?

Try this link Jones boy
www.cavetheband.co.uk

BD

and fair play to you sir, i doff my cap. did think it a little odd.

go olly and the Rants, I'll be there waving from the bar.

be nice to hear them, then I'll make up me mind

Well said Sir. :) 
Although Jono's point was that he'd seen the band and didn't think they were good enough, that would account for about half the acts that ever appear if you believe some folk. I've seen 'em and on past evidence they're certainly good enough to open the show (IMHO).

Personally i think it's a great idea to have the Wrants at Cropredy. Remember though olly a word of wisdom from the great Debbie Allen  


                                             "you got big dreams, well dreams cost &
                                         right here's where you'll start paying....in sweat!"
                                                                            

waistcoats, yes...but legwarmers on stage..... :o

Showing your age there Skirky ol boy

I also saw the Wrants play at Banbury by the canal on the Sunday and not only did they play really well (and certainly more than well enough) but it was a real treat to see all their friends dancing.

 I suspect they'll have the same effect at Cropredy and that'll be lovely :D

Jude ;D

I'm absolutely astonished to hear anyone say that a band could be too young or inexperienced to play at Cropredy!!! It seems to me like saying to Wayne Rooney - "Sorry mate, you're too young to play for England!"

And let's not forget that it was an 18-year-old Richard Thompson who wrote Meet on the Ledge. Perhaps Fairport can see in wRants a reflection of that group of teenagers who produced such ground-breaking music between 1968 and 70.

More power to you Ollie and the wRants! Ignore the bitter old b*ggers - they're just jealous!

Order in the room please !  ;)

Now Jono expressed his opinion and had the grace to say: so I am not sure if Jono was being a "bitter old b*gger" at all.

I think that Olly himself has expressed it best of all when he offered the following:
I couldn't have put it better myself so I will not try.

I shall be down the front at Cropredy (more than a little envious) and I know that I will be in very good company.

Jono.... I don't agree with you mate, but I will happily share a pint with you after the W-Rants' set to see if you've changed your mind.

Phew.....

Well personally I cant understand what all the fuss is about, looks like the worst thursday line up since the festival went three days to me, looks like i will be watching PJ Wright and spending the rest of the night in the Brasenose which will be a first for me since i first attended the festival in 1984.

Lets hope that the Friday night makes up for it and that we dont end up with another night in the pub.

Over the years i have come to think of Fairport Convention as a tradition rather than a band with former members still being very much part of the family, at Cropredy through time the highlights have been the unexpected special guests Robert Plant being the top of this list, and the odd unknown gem such as the Leningrad Cowboys, supplemented  with classic bands like Tull Procul Harum Oysterband etc....all finished off with Fairports saturday spectacular and the anticipation of that special guest... however the definition of special guest has been somewhat diluted over time we seem to have degenerated from the heights of Billy Connolly and Robert Plant through Steve Harley and Mike Read to a school dance team and a trio who busked outside the train station, surely a special guest should be more than this....

Saturday Fairport Convention and Special Guests**

A special guest is anybody who has already appeared this weekend, anybody who has ever appeared in Fairport Convention at anytime, or anyone who has shared a pint with Dave Pegg. Perhaps one year the backing singers for Meet on the Ledge will comprise the very special guests of everyone who has been to all the Cropredy Festivals WOW!!!!!!. Please note that Richard Thompson is the only former member of Fairport who can be considered a special guest.

After 22 years of Cropredy what makes me come back every year, the people, the atmosphere, the crowd I attend with, but as time passes the self indulgent nature of the line up is starting to grate, and the irritating sound of 'All around my Hat' on a balmy summers evening may well be the straw that breaks the camels back.

I have probably rambled as i have compiled this at work on reading the ecstatic response to a boring Thursday night line up, no doubt i will be met by howls of derision, but we all have our views and I will continue to air mine unless i get sectioned by the folk police.

Special guests ...what's yours called.

Not Dave Swarbrick, then?  I think he'd qualify too (actually, I'd put him as a very special guest)

I can't find the list of bands for 06. Has it gone or is it just me?

Pipped to the post ;D
I was just about to say the very same thing :D

Mic

No, don't think it's you.  I can't seem to find it either.  Maybe it's being updated?

Ana

I'm only guessing here but I don't think you like Steeleye Span very much  ;)

But, as you are a newbie (welcome) how about sharing with us who you would rather see supporting Fairport on the Thursday, that way we can get to know you better and call off the folk dogs of war before they descend.

Jackdaw

Just goes to show... you can't please everyoone...  but no one will force you to go on Thursday....

Funny the list was there the other day.. wonder where it's gone???

Yes please tell us who you'd like to see.

AmyJen

Hi Soolntr

I have to say I and a number of others that I know will be joining you in the pub.

I have seen Steeleye Span twice in the last 2 years and just cannot get excited about them (or even just casually listen to them). Still, it would be awful if everbody liked the same bands, and I suppose that the chances are that there will be a headliner or two that just do not push your buttons every now and again. At least there is a fall back position.

We will, however, make the effort to see the WRants who I have now seen several times and whom I do think warrant support.

Lets wait and see what Friday and Saturday have to offer :)

Sandra

I too want something more exciting than "All around my hat"  and the wRants will do very nicely for starters.  As has already been mentioned, they are VERY GOOD and will only get better!  Woohoo to Olly and all of you.

I have just checked and I'll be on holiday the week after, so I am going to make it to Cropredy after 27 years of living in Banbury!

YIPPEE!!!!!

Did that work?  It was my first attempt at fancy computer stuff!

Carolyn.

Ooh - it did!   ;D

C.

Steeleye must be getting pretty bored by now with All Around My Hat jibes, like judging Fairport on Si Tu Dois Partir or Ralph on Streets of London.

I have really liked what I've heard of the newer stuff and Ken Nicol is a top guitarist.

Bring it on I say, plus the Croppers crowd all singing AAMH should be worth a laugh at least.

Jackdaw  :)

Have fun in the pub guys though.

Well I must admit that I will join in with it - I just want more!

Carolyn

I can relate to that as we only lasted four songs of the Country Joe set before deciding to go for a walk down to the village.  :(

Looking forward to seeing SS myself, though I do tend to prefer Maddy Prior in one of her other incarnations these days - MP and the Girls were excellent when we saw them last week, perhaps they should be on at Cropredy instead.

Cheers
Dunc

If you get a chance to see Maddy and the Carnival Band on tour this Christmas do so - they are a joy.

It's just you, I think...... ;)

It's just been put back up.... ;D

Has it???? Well it's disappeared again then for me (and I have done all the refresh bits as well!!!)

jude

Yes the bands are there again Jude... :)

Just like magic really, innit?

Jude ;D

So what did I do to offend FC ??? I still can't find the '06 Bands List :(

Have I finally lost the very last marble? Could I not be looking in the right place?

I'm going to hide in a corner now and whimper :'(

Mic

Probably need to refresh your cache, Mix....

When on the FC site, try <CTRL> & F5 together, and then try for the news page.

Thank you Chris ;D All's well now ;D   What would I do without you :-*

Mic

Hi all,

I'd also like to add that SS in their present incarnation are VERY good indeed. Check out the recent Live DVD for proof! Best of all they are still doing trad. arr material featuring solid electric guitar riffs courtesy of Ken Nicol. There's also a fab drum solo... check it out.

Barry

I agree.  In my opinion the current Steeleye and it's material can blow the current Fairport and it's material off stage without breaking a sweat.  Perhaps that's why they are playing Thursday  ;)  But it's all a matter of personal preference.  Over the years Fairport has been a far more consistent band than Steeleye.

However, judging a band's 36 year career on the basis of one song is pathetic.

It was me. It's under 'News',

Perhaps this should be another thread but i think the main problem with Cropredy festival when compared to other Festivals is the lack of any alternative. The Wrants may well be talented but other festivals would surely give them the opportunity to play on smaller stage rather than going straight to the main stage with X thousand people, also many of the acts booked over the years do not work on the bigger stage unless you are right at the front or are looking for some back ground noise. I know there are other musical options available in the village but there only so many versions of Wishing Well you can take!

Perhaps the boys should consider another stage in a marquee down by the river where new bands such as Tin Tin Lady can do a full set, lets face it much smaller festivals have three or four stages available, in my opinion this would add greatly to the appeal of Cropredy and would also provide a much needed refuge from Richard Digance.

What the chance of a second stage???

...on the other hand one of the attractions of Cropredy is that you don't miss anything, and don't have to study the schedule every day, choose who you want to see, and rush from one stage to another inbetween acts.  ;D

Couldn't agree more, and the fact that we're all there for the same thing makes it special and different.

Well put Steve, leave the structure of the festival as it is

Next to zero, I would think.

It's working well at the moment - and to put a marquee where you suggest will take money to hire & erect, staff (more money) and prime camping land (even more money - to hire more campsite as it gets full now)

I'm more than happy with the structure of the Cropredy festival..  it's selfcontainedness is one of its main attractions...  makes it unique, compact, all one big party...

Don't change it....

AmyJen ;D

And as has been said already if you don't like what is on the main stage head into the village for an alternative.

As to the Wrants they have now played Cornbury and Banbury festivals with good notices so I'm sure the Thursday afternoon crowd at Cropredy won't be too much for them.

Jackdaw

must admit that being a quite new to the cropardy festival I found just the single stage different, but its a great formula.
should you need a break from the arena theres always one of the village pubs.

leave it be, its unique

thought maybe i should stick my fez back into this one.
yes to the st johns area top, pubs in town sounds like the best way to fill my strum bag, that extra field, with the cash machine, was also a great place to spend time, hope the complaints weren't too persistent, and yes, one stage does gel everybody closer.
but still... just a little one? maybe for coffee on the way home? please? ;D

I really enjoy the Wallingford Bunkfest, but one thing I don't find so good about it is the fact that often good bands, that I want to listen to, will clash. Last year I had to mis Chumbawamba to see Arlen for instance.

I like the Cropredy arrangement where you only have to stay in one place to see all the good acts.

Paul

Second stage?




Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

Succinctly put there, Mr Anorak.

Chalk me up a "no" vote. :)

 I would say this wouldn't I but with reference to Jono's post, could I just point out that Tiny Tin Lady were also considered to be Glastonbury material this year? And a dozen others besides.

There's a great review of the album in the new Mojo & there was a cracker in the Telegraph as well as several regionals.

I'm not clear why you felt the need to drag us into a discussion about W'rants (who are GREAT & will burn many a bands tail) but good luck to them - I'm sure they'll be brill.

In a similar vein to bernief.....

There seems to be a suggestion that the W-Rants do not deserve to be given a spot in from of x thousand fans - b*ll*cks !

I am sure that Fairport would not have given the billing to the W-Rants if they had not considerd them to be 'up to the job'.

They have the billing, they deserve it..... good luck to 'em  8)

I could quite easily get excited about Steeleye Span every year. If I had my way they would play Cropredy with Fairport every year. After all Fairport is on every year, after all its their festival & that is whay we go.

Steeleye Span in my opinion are just as important & influential in British Folk Rock as any band on the curcuit today.

My dream lineup for any year would always include Fairport Steeleye & Jethro tull. Infact I would have the main act for each night as one of the above. & make up the space with other bands.

I haven't seen the W-Rants yet.....but I'm really looking forward to seeing them at Cropredy. I have, however, seen the many reports and reviews of their gigs, from those it seems to be that their place at Cropredy has been well and truly earned and deserved!!

I realise that it's good that we don't all agree on everything all the time, but to say that they aren't deserving of the set at Cropredy is a bit sweeping I think.

Mic

well I'm intregued by the idea of wRants, so I will reserve opinion unil I've managed to witness their performance.

So I'm also looking forward to them.

Please dont fix what is not broke,,if I say funfair,,dont need to say any more.

Although the lineup in any one year is never going to suit everybody I love Cropredy just as it is. I really like the way the lineup changes from year to year and I can't help feeling Richard Digance needs a couple of years rest.

The thought of additional stages/big screens/Steeleye and Tull headlining every year would probably mean i wouldn't attend regularly any more. I've been just about every year since 1989 beacause it's wonderful how it is.

phil (set in my ways and proud of it)

I did not suggest that they were 'unimportant', nor that they were not 'influential' (and I think at my age I can say I had the luxury of seeing all of these bands at every stage of their careers so saw influence in the making). I merely stated that I, personally, do not like them in their current mode, but there again I have never been a big fan.

The point I was making was that there can never be a line up that everybody is perfectly happy with, but that that is not a reason (for me at least) not to go to Cropredy.

However, if SS (or anyone else apart from Fairport) appeared every year then I CAN see a situation where I would no longer attend, and I guess many others might feel the same.

Also, I would dispute your contention that Fairport is the reason that everybody attends the festival. I know of people who know nothing of Fairport, or who are not really fans of theirs, who go. People attend fro many different reasons.

Cropredy works as it is. It does not need changing or fixing. A changing line up every year, with some old favourites (or not as the case may be) mixed with some new talent and a few (usually nice) surprises is just fine.

Sandra

I was not sugesting changing of fixing anything. However saying that Cropredy should not simply have a band because that band was there the year before is ludicrous. The thing is for me Although I still enjoy Fairport & will continue to attend cropredy I no longer see them as a pure folk band that they were at their zenith. Your Point about Steeleye span is also valid. I must admit I prefered musch of their earlier work, though I must say they even today seem to stay truer to the folk feel I've come to know & love.

My only problem with the even is now that the prices are escalating ever higher, I do have to think ever harder each year I come. to the extent that I often have to make it a last minute thing, by doing overtime at work & therefore pay over the odds on the gate. This year was the first year I really couldn't afford the event at all. I only hope I can save up enough in the interim to come in 2006

For myself & many other who have been attending the even as long as I have the initial reason has always been Fairport. hence my opinion & continued opinion that a Folk even such as this is too important not to have the likes of Steeleye Span. Or is Cropredy to join the fate of many other outdoor events & to become simply a mere pop festival like so many others have become. I do hope not, as if it does, then for me it will be truely broken.

Ah. The perennial debate. Is it a folk event?

Fairport have often said that Cropredy is a music festival, not a folk festival.

There have been many arguments in the past as to what constituted both. There will undoubtedly be many more.

However, I do not think that Cropredy would ever sink to being a 'pop' festival.

It is unique, as are the attendees, and I hope it will stay that way. Vive le difference.

I hope that you do manage to get there this year. I am sure we will both enjoy it in our own ways.

Sandra.

Sorry, Taliesin, yes - you were.....


Sorry, I don't agree....even with the best bands, the secret of a good festival is the mix & match. There are plenty of good bands out there that you could programme the likes of Cropredy for at least 5 years without the need to repeat anybody (other than FC, of course)
I suspect that Digance is due for a rest unles he's willing to write some new material....


Ehhh? Cropredy hasn't been a 'folk' event for at least 10 years, and probably longer than that. As has been evidenced by various members of the band saying so over the years....

Very true.

Which is when it started to get boring for a lot of people.  Turnover of punters has kept it going.

everything changes before it ends, even bands themselves.
it isn't going to be 1974 forever.
i'm just glad that we have an alternative to attend at all.
it wouldn't matter exactly who were on, as long as robbie williams and girls allowed are left in top of the pops teenage scream land.
or something.

No, it's not a folk music festival. It's a music festival with some folk music. That's fine. In fact it's great. The sheer variety is what keeps me coming back (5 years now).

I've seen ghosts from my youth (Procol Harum, Jethro Tull) new and exciting bands (Muffin Men, Debora Bonham) and breathtaking talent (Eddie Reader, Richard Thompson)

I've seen totally unexpected stuff like the Hamsters playing Purple Haze (definitely NOT folk music).

I have also been introduced to folk music in a form I don't recognise from my early memories of it (Si Tu Dois Partir etc.). Bands like Uiscedwr, Show of Hands and, of course, FC.

Of course with such variety there will always be bands that don't appeal to everyone. For times like that there is the bar, the food stalls, the clothing stalls, the pubs in the villiage...

It's great as it is. Long may it continue.  ;D

and amen and halleluya(sic?) to that..
i'm going to keep turning up, year in year out, knowing that there will always be the better proportion of the weekend dedicated to less than the mainstream, whether it be folk, blues, gospel, jazz, i dunno, welsh voice choir, the point is, there will be no robbie williams!
and that, for me, is the point, i don't expect to be perfectly sated all day every day, but i know i will not be forced to leave by my ears and my eyes for the sake of my fragile sanity.
respite from the concrete i live in, that's all i ask, and all i expect.
thankyou crop for showing me another side(s).

Máire Ní Chathasaigh.


Anyone know how to pronounce this person's name properly? ( I know she would herself)

Moira O'Cassidy?

Manchester ?

It's pronounced Máire Ní Chathasaigh

Moira Ni (tiny little hint of a ch sound here) Ha Ha Sich

and they said me owld oirish boood would be no benefit when I became a man!

when she played my folk club many's the weary year ago she told me to pronounce it Moira Knee Cass A Hee.

So I got her her name right for her introduction. And then called her guitarist Chris Newcombe.....Can't win ever.

That's not what she told me. She siad I should pronounce it like Carsick!

Carsick at Cropredy? More like 6Xsiick!!!!!!!

That's what she told us too....

She had clearly been on the sauce then...

Oh well. Thanks. It's Moira Kneekassahee then.

So when do they give us the Friday and Saturday line-ups ?. I need to organise my wardrobe.

randle cant you take a tent like everyone else?
and if you put a wardrobe up in front of the soundtower there'll be a right bloody riot
 ;D

When they're confirmed?....

Is that the same but different as 'subject to contract' which is what Thursday's line up is announced as?

My money's on Show of Hands simply for the reason that Phil Beer's thereon Thursday...er... and another band which has Dave Mattacks on drums...and erm.. Richard Digance. Duhr.

Not quite. 'confirmed' means that bands haven't even verbally agreed; STC means they've verbally agreed, just haven't signed up....


Doubt the first; too soon since they were there. Which other band do you percieve DM being part of - or are you referring to appearing as a 'special guest'?; yes, I reckon RD might be a good bet.

I reckon he means Feast of Fiddles.

How can someone be "confirmed" when they haven't even verbally agreed? Surely STC first, then confimed AFTER they've signed...?

While we're talking about comperes/comedians, how about giving Jasper Carrott (the Solihull/Acocks Green connection) or Frank Skinner (with or without fiddle) a 30-min slot?

Not sure of that - Feast of Fiddles are already listed for Thursday.....


They can't - hence there's no announcement yet.


I see what you mean, maybe bad usage....what I meant was verbally agreed, what you mean is the 'legal-eagle' definition. Verbal agreement 9 times out of 10 will sign up...hence the codacil 'STC'....Of course they are contractually confirmed once their signature is on the line.

But if artists maybe have been asked but not yet even said a verbal 'yes', then there's little point in advertising them - which I reckon is the current situation.

Re Dm. I thought he might be on drums over the weekend for a 'special' - and I don't mean FC.
I was thinking aloud.

I'd still put some money on Show of Hands.

I think one of the Wainrights will appear. I feel it it my water.

I'll dry my hands now.

Martha or Rufus do you reckon?   Either would be great, but I have to confess Martha would get my vote ;D

Mic

I'd love to see Martha again and I think she'd do a great friday early evening set but, as ever, your and my 'vote' mean bugger all in the grand scheme of things. Any sightings of FC'ers at Wainwright gigs gratefully received... ;)
Skirky

So hope you are right,(and with Mr Beer there for Feast of Fiddles,it might happen)saw them play last week and they were fantastic ;D :D

I asked Phil Beer about FoF at Cropredy next year when I saw SoH at the Stables recently...............he seemed surprised about the booking  :o :o

Oh dear,hope it is going to happen then :o

Oh, it will - Hugh Crabtree (squeezebox player & all-round good egg) probably hasn't told him yet....

Yeah, Ok, yes I'd love to have it how I like it, though I know that'd never happen, hence why I'm saying I'm not suggesting fixing it, I was saying that how I'd have it if I had my way, though as I say I kno0w that'll never happen.

Digence is one of these odd acts, he's one of those guys that on one hand I initially wouldn't be bothered about, but when he gets up there I find myself riveted & find myself not going around the stalls & also hanging onto the contents of my bladder till the end of the set, something which is a real compliment for any act up there.

And yes I suppose Cropredy hasn't been a Folk event for some years, however for me I'll always see it as a Folk event, combined with Rock music, & anny dumbing down of the event would be very sad. Not everything has been of my taste of recent years its true, even some of the supposedly folk bands, but I've nearly always looked forward to certain headline bands, though was really disapointed by one of the supposedly Folk ones (which I wont name, as I know some people actually like them)

Go on name and shame them we won't tell anyone

go on and tell us, its your point of view, get it aired
discussion is what its all about,isnt it?

This is heading straight to the bar for a discussion on what "folk" music is.  ::)

Dumbing down of the event ? - I think you need to elaborate on that one, old chum

What do you mean by "dumbing down of the event"





....on another matter, SoN and I amused ourselves by having a five-minute fantasy of Ozric Tentacles playing Cropredy on a twilight-spot as the sun was going down  ;D

Ooo, yes please!  ;D

Gets my vote!  ;D ;D ;D

Sorry, won't get mine....

That's OK..... just a pipe-dream, a good one, but a pipe-dream nonetheless  ;)

Ozrics - oh my word, the first common sense band name for years!!!!! If not how about Hawkwind  :D

Dumbing down - i will resist answering that one, as it would not seem fair to some :P :P

'ere Hippy, who's yo callin dumb..........................?????

please, no hawkwind.  i've been to so many bike rallies where hawkwind have headlined and as soon as i hear the opening bars of silver machine its back to the tent for me i'm afraid.
no hawkwind!!!!!

ditto here....

So who HAS got a clue what's happening on Friday and Saturday?

Rife speculation, of a sensible sort, please  ;D

Digance on Saturday noon?  ;)

I'll vote for him... ;)

gong on the other hand... :D

Now you're talking  :o  T'would be interesting to see the crowd reaction to that  ::)  And while I'm here MUFFINS FOR 2007  ;D

would be interesting indeed........ ;D anyone know what Daevid Allen is up to these days ?Saw him play with a band in 1990 at a very small(and very packed)gig

Not sure, they pulled out of last years off the tracks fest and were replaced with the Ozrics (who were splendid).  There were rumours about a yearly 'gong fest' (cheaper than touring or somesuch) but I haven't heard any more of it...

Guess he still plays in France and Oz  a fair bit.Always a bit of a hero of mine i still listen to New York About Time on a regular basis(tho my copy has seen better days,sadly)

hawkwind for croppers ?yes please, count me in

Yeah, why not. I can't remember all the words of the History of England and I have heard them every year for the last 4 years. ;D ;D

There was a "gongfest" thingy quite recently in Glastonbury (where else?) - lineup included Gilli Smyth, Tim Blake, Steve Hillage, Miquette Giraudy, Mike Howlett, Didier Malherbe, not sure who the drummer was; no Daevid Allen apparently.  Some pix on the gong-gas website.  Certain gongers looking a little worn these days, but Hillage looks younger...

Back on topic - not Hawkwind, please.

Wishbone Ash? Horslips? Home Service/"Rise Up"-era Albions?

ok if not hawkwind how about Amon Duul 2, Renata Knaup- Krotenschwanz and the boys?

Horslips - yes please, however i think they are no more (have been for years)
'The Tain' & 'Book of Invasions' are great records
though i have heard rumours of them touring in Ireland so who knows
a most excellent addition of Irish folk rock  ;)

Bloody hell sixteen pages and still only the thursday night announced !!!!. Me thinks this will be one hell of a long thread.

Maybe the Pink Fairies would reform too, all in for Gong/Ozrics/Hawkwind/Man

Think I may have been to that show already.

tellyouwhat,  why not give friday over to a mini hawkfest
pink fairies, hmmmmmmm nice one,are they all still with us?Larry Wallis ,Twink etc.

The Ukulele Orchestra Of Great Britain has performed an, at least, very interesting version of Silver Machine at Cropredy 2005. It's time to compare it to the original, or, let's say, to how the original members of Hawkwind would play it nowadays.

just have to add to this one, porcupine tree, saw them with gong/ozrics/hawkwind at bath years ago, the new stuffs a bit beatle-ier, but they can space with the best. :D

Porcupine Tree are on tour at the moment with Robert Fripp playing in Wolverhampton tonight.

(How do I know these things?)

Jude :o

At the risk of opening a whole can of worms ;D
The Levellers for Cropredy!!!!!! And I'd like them to bring the kilt wearing Didgereedoo player :o

Mic

Sounds like a great idea Mix - I could go for that!  :D
Auntiebobble

omigodyespleasethekidswouldloveitsowouldweBRINGITON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D

You enjoyed them then, Mic?  Knew you would. 

And if I can I add my name to the list -  LEVELLERS, YES,  HAWKWIND, NO!!!!!!!!!!

Carolyn

Enjoyed, is probably the understatement of the year ;D  They absolutely ROCKED!!!!
and just to touch gently on an old sore point...the audience were great too, happy, bouncy, friendly, I came out with my person and the contents of my bag intact. All ages, having a great time!!!

so who do we beg to get this happening??!!

I would guess you would have to beg the Levellers themselves.

They have been rumoured on the line-up many times now. Peggy even got as far as listing them as TBC on a mailing one year.

Trouble is, they have their own festival the week after Cropredy. It would diminish their own event if they played another festival too close to their own. For the same reason that Fairport don't play Sidmouth or Cambridge (except in emergencies) the Levellers are unlikely to play Cropredy.

But that is supposition and of course anything is possible.

Cheers

Nick

So who's for getting up a posse for Beautiful Days then?

I have to say though, after what I saw last night, if they did a fest right before their own, they'd never have the energy to get through :o ;D
Sad though

Mic

I guess we're just lucky the two festivals don't happen on the same weekend!

Oh my word yes!!!!! :o :o Now that would be very sad :o

Mic

There are several people I know who go to both festivals. Careful juggling of holidays / families is involved, however.

Cropreddy and Beautifull days are both on my calender for next year.  Hoping to find another festival as well, but I am not sure I can talk Lorraine into another 3 days or so camping.  But I could go on my own, as I am old enough and promise not to get into much trouble.

that explains why i keep not getting to beautiful days then, my liitle brain doesn't do well at planning more than two days ahead, so two weekends on the bounce is just flibberty... ???

Cropredy, Beautiful Days, spare weekend, Wallingford for us ;D

Must look for something to fill that spare weekend.

The cat thinks we have abandoned her in August/September.

Would still love to see Bellowhead on at Cropredy  [;-)

Sandra

OI !!!!!!
I'm a hippy!!!!    I love The Levellers... or am I not allowed to :-\

Mic

See y'all there ;D  And Trowbridge Pump, National Forest Folk, Big Session, both Off The Tracks, Cropredy of course and probably not Bosworth  ;)

so where do we find the details for all of the above?? :-\

Here ya go :

http://www.beautifuldays.org/
http://www.trowbridgefestival.co.uk/
http://www.affc.demon.co.uk/
http://www.oysterband.co.uk/homepagecentre/home.html
http://www.offthetracks.co.uk/
http://www.faircrop.co.uk/  ;)

MODERATOR!

Can this be split into two, so that speculation / news Cropredy 06 bands is the only thing here - I keep expecting news when it's updated.

Ta.

This topic has been locked.

I have started a new topic http://www.talkawhile.co.uk/yabbse/index.php?topic=14146.0 (http://www.talkawhile.co.uk/yabbse/index.php?topic=14146.0) for general Cropredy chit chat.
There is also a new topic just for information on Cropredy 2006.

Jen