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 on: April 26, 2024, 07:08:23 PM 
Started by Will S - Last post by Shane (Skirky)

Wendy and I went to see Leveret at Pontardawe Arts Centre tonight. All three on top form, but the audience size was not great - around 55 paying punters. How bands can keep going in the face of certain losses every time they tour, I have no idea.

Here's an interesting Guardian article on this very subject, published today.


I suspect that that article was written to order. The Weeping Willows - an Australian duo - are embarking on a fifteen date UK tour shortly, The Paperboys (from Canada) are doing twenty dates in Europe (I’m including the UK in that definition) - they may well be losing green but as we all know, the first time Fairport made any money was when they got dropped and paid off by Phonogram, so this isn’t a new story. As Dr. Hunter Thompson so sagely opined,  "The Music Business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side."

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 on: April 26, 2024, 06:51:13 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Shane (Skirky)


The nearest parallel to Cropredy that I can think of is Beautiful Days (no corporate sponsorship, the leveller’s festival, etc). From my recent attendances, I’d guess that their average audience age is c10 years or so younger than Cropredy. I think their numbers are capped at 10,000. In my opinion, their line-up is streets ahead of Cropredy this year, with something for everyone (as a side-note, we were amongst the oldest at a sold-out and heaving Longest Johns gig of c600; brilliant band!). Im pretty sure that their ticket sales are v healthy from what I’ve heard. I think my point is that once your unique selling point (for Cropredy it is/was the band, the fantastic location and a great chance to catch up with old friends) is no longer the main draw, lineup is everything.


That's true, but BD is a multistage event on a bigger site, so they are able to cover a wider range of music, more choice and attract a wider demographic.
The Levellers came to prominence a good 20-30 years after Fairport, and actually had enough top 40 hits to make a bona fide Greatest Hits album.
Most of the acts tend to be 80's, 90's and 00's, give or take the odd Hawkwind or Van Der Graf, so they have that advantage too.
The year Cropredy had Supergrass on did not go too well on the feral yoof front.


Equally, BDs is a non-sponsored festival, capped at 17.5K attendees and with the extra cost of the infrastructure needed to put on all those extra stages, weekend prices are pretty comparable and they’ve (significantly, I think) already sold out all the camper van tickets. I think it’s about the line-up.

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 on: April 26, 2024, 06:05:44 PM 
Started by Red Shoes (Caz+Mark) - Last post by PaulT


 I was unaware at that time that the LP title referred - apparently/allegedly - to a particular, er, "flavour" of oral sex!   Shocked


Perhaps not quite that. The album's title supposedly comes from Cambridge slang for sex, commonly used by Pink Floyd friend and occasional roadie, Iain "Emo" Moore, who would say, "I'm going back to the house for some ummagumma". According to Moore, he made up the term himself. - Wikipedia


I sit corrected!  Wink

 74 
 on: April 26, 2024, 06:02:40 PM 
Started by PaulT - Last post by PaulT

Jah Wobble & band playing "Metal Box In Dub" at Bristol Market Exchange Thurs 16th May.  Late finish, apparently, so might be an overnight stay.


It WILL be an overnight stay.  I will be attending the funeral of one of my oldest pals in the morning of the 16th, down in Leatherhead, so an evening of loud music - and a few beers - will be most welcome.  My pal Nick would approve, I'm sure...

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 on: April 26, 2024, 03:59:42 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Lubiloo (Lorna)

He was an unannounced surprise guest with FC, like Gary Brooker, Joe Brown, Planty, Roy Wood before him.
Also Yusuf Stevens, except he let the 'Cat' out of the bag himself.


So many different categories of surprise guests! Yes, he was indeed of the ‘unannounced, surprise’ category as opposed to the normal ‘surprise’ category or the ‘un-named special guest’ category etc…..

 76 
 on: April 26, 2024, 03:28:05 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by bassline (Mike)
He was an unannounced surprise guest with FC, like Gary Brooker, Joe Brown, Planty, Roy Wood before him.
Also Yusuf Stevens, except he let the 'Cat' out of the bag himself.

 77 
 on: April 26, 2024, 03:24:25 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by Lubiloo (Lorna)





Maybe they should announce who the special guest is going to be.

That seems very pertinent.


Although it could, depending on who they are, actually make things worse?  A shrug of the shoulders is probably not what is needed here?


My feeling (as I think I mentioned before) is that it will be someone who is a (reasonably) big name, but they will only do a 20 min slot just before Fairport (or with Fairport?), and if they named them, there would be complaints from people who bought tickets expecting to see a full set.  I may, of course, be completely wrong... (it has been known).


I think I'm right in saying that previously announced 'special guests' have always played with Fairport, not as a separate unbilled act.  I can't think of any exceptions to that - can anyone?


Roger Hodgson?

 78 
 on: April 26, 2024, 03:14:53 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by davidmjs

I wonder if reverting to the 2-day format might be worth consideration?


The trouble with that is that the Thursday in the village (which used to be a highpoint of the festivals for me) has been ruined by the pubs wanting their own festivals and charging for them....

 79 
 on: April 26, 2024, 02:55:57 PM 
Started by bassline (Mike) - Last post by PaulT
I wonder if reverting to the 2-day format might be worth consideration?

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 on: April 26, 2024, 02:54:28 PM 
Started by Will S - Last post by John From Austin

Wendy and I went to see Leveret at Pontardawe Arts Centre tonight. All three on top form, but the audience size was not great - around 55 paying punters. How bands can keep going in the face of certain losses every time they tour, I have no idea.

Here's an interesting Guardian article on this very subject, published today.


I didn't mention it because I wanted to be upbeat, but Teddy drew about 35 people to 3Ten Live Sunday night. The venue is 350 capacity. He remarked that his Saturday show in Round Top, at a three-day dance-hall extravaganza headlined by Rodney Crowell no less, drew a sparse crowd. He did sell out the handful of CDs he produced after the show, so there's that.

I listened to a Sandy Denny interview in which she referenced not having any money. She explained that she had to pay her band, so every time she got her hands on a little money, it immediately went back out the door. Sounds like nothing's changed for artists at that level of success.

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